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發表於 09-8-14 13:49 |只看該作者
有冇人用開Chu Chu瘦樽轉Dr Browns肥樽?

我bb用chu chu越食越慢又多風,好難ur氣,想轉Dr Browns肥樽,ok ma? any advice / comments?

million thx.
    


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發表於 09-8-14 13:54 |只看該作者
me too~我都想轉呀,但好驚仔仔唔肯食....


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3#
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我也有這個担心,但無法,因bb用chu chu太多風,食得差.......我想bb try 多幾次,餓就會肯食瓜!
原帖由 natalie_lee1010 於 09-8-14 13:54 發表
me too~我都想轉呀,但好驚仔仔唔肯食....
    


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4#
發表於 09-8-14 14:09 |只看該作者
chuchu好多泡泡,食到最尾好似食風咁,仔仔又飲得好辛苦~


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5#
發表於 09-8-14 14:16 |只看該作者

Dr Brown's 奶樽雙酚A含量超標

但Dr Brown's 奶樽雙酚A含量超標, 值得用嗎? 測試結果: Dr Brown's - 2小時後含量0.0643微克, 238小時後含量0.9059微克, (結果為奶樽盛載攝氏60度熱水若干小時後每公升水之雙酚A含量, 資料來源: 加拿大衛生局)

其他牌子如Nuby, Gerber, Medele都有.

我仲以為 Chu Chu 最好, 因為好多媽咪都推介Chu Chu奶樽, 但可惜bb食完會有好多風!


原帖由 makfr 於 09-8-14 13:49 發表
有冇人用開Chu Chu瘦樽轉Dr Browns肥樽?

我bb用chu chu越食越慢又多風,好難ur氣,想轉Dr Browns肥樽,ok ma? any advice / comments?

million thx.


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6#
發表於 09-8-14 14:18 |只看該作者
DR BROWN有PES奶樽WO


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7#
發表於 09-8-14 14:22 |只看該作者
pes係唔係話無問題?
加拿大檢測的係PP材料奶樽?


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原帖由 aasusan 於 09-8-14 14:22 發表
pes係唔係話無問題?
加拿大檢測的係PP材料奶樽?


加拿大測既係PP.....


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發表於 09-8-14 14:31 |只看該作者
PES 樽係冇問題的, 有問題係pp樽呀..所以我都會買pes 樽比阿b


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發表於 09-8-14 16:24 |只看該作者
最令我煩惱的是bb肚仔有太多風,所以5舒服,成日ur 唔倒氣,有時"so"風over 15 mins都ur 5 倒,睇過doctor都話係有風...希望轉Dr Browns會好d!
原帖由 natalie_lee1010 於 09-8-14 14:09 發表
chuchu好多泡泡,食到最尾好似食風咁,仔仔又飲得好辛苦~
    


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發表於 09-8-14 16:29 |只看該作者
我都想轉呀,但怕阿仔唔飲,諗緊買一個先,定買3個一PACK平D......HAHA
有無人用過DR BROWN奶樽可以SHARE下


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12#
發表於 09-8-14 16:52 |只看該作者
我都想轉佐dr browns既肥樽..
依架pp樽出事,我對pes樽都有保留..
唔知..bfree會唔會好少少呢..


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13#
發表於 09-8-14 17:01 |只看該作者
坦白講,驚就用玻璃...因為我覺得可能CHUCHU果D PPSU都有可能有問題,無人驗就無人知


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發表於 09-8-14 19:40 |只看該作者
加拿大衛生部已經澄清,所有被驗的奶樽都冇超標,亦承認當局沒有制定測BPA的認可規格,驗到的含量亦可能唔準確。外國既關注組織都掩住半邊咀笑,因為單料實在太笑話。

加拿大新聞有跟進報導,但香港就冇。



原帖由 DianaCPY 於 09-8-14 14:16 發表
.....雙酚A含量超標, 值得用嗎? ...


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發表於 09-8-15 02:26 |只看該作者
mouth: ..............................


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16#
發表於 09-8-15 04:32 |只看該作者

嚴正聲明



就日前有報章報導有關加拿大驗出奶樽含雙酚A之消息,引起各界及本公司關注,本公司立即作出事件跟進,深入了解測試報告,並初步作出以下聲明:

(1)東方日報(及姊妹報太陽報)只斷章取義報導了部份報告內容,文章有意或無意地引起公眾無謂恐慌,採用了不符事實的標題如「Dr. Brown's奶樽勁含雙酚A」,卻忽略了測試報告的重要結論(國際傳媒均如實報導加拿大當局調查人員的報告內容,當中多次重申產品為安全對人體無害),文章亦沒有引據資料來源,實在有誤導讀者之嫌。

(2)加拿大衛生局乃是次測試之政府研究機構,在其報告清楚指出,是次測試的9款BPA-free奶樽 (包括PES及PP材料奶樽),發現大部份均釋出超微量雙酚A含量,份量微乎其微,不足引起任何關注(與本地中文報章採用誇張失實的字眼完全不符),加拿大衛生局亦多次強調報告中的雙酚A含量根本不足以造成任何健康問題,明確表示該含量對身體並無害處。報告並認為BPA含量極少,相信來源可能是源於其他外在環境因素影響。

(3)加拿大為首個國家禁止嬰兒奶樽產品採用含雙酚A之PC塑膠物料,經過是次測試,當局有信心認為是次各受測試的品牌奶樽採用了非PC (Non-polycarbonate) 物料生產,是良好的PC奶樽替代品,向市民保證絕對無需擔心有關被測試奶樽的安全性。

(4)另外,加拿大衛生局表示是次測試環境利用了最極端的情況下進行,比較在正常使用的情況嚴峻多倍,故並不代表一般家庭現實使用時的情況。(註一)

(5)進行是次測試的科學研究人員承認報告結果有懷疑之處,需要再重新進行更多樣本測試,日後方可作出澄清。本公司亦正積極聯絡美國生產商及本地著名測試機構,冀能在短期內提供更確實之產品安全證據給大家,以正視聽。

(6)根據歐盟食品安全管理局(EFSA)於08年最後修訂之安全指引,無論成人或嬰兒每日可承受雙酚A的安全含量(TDI)為每日每公斤體重50微克(0.05mg/kgof body weight/day)(註二)。以一個4kg重的嬰兒為例(假設每日用同一個奶樽飲用共1.5公升或50安士並維持8小時在水溫60度),可吸取之安全上限為每日200微克(μg),而即使加拿大衛生局這份充滿疑點的報告果真沒偏差,一般情況下使用Dr.Brown’s奶樽之每日攝取量亦只是其安全上限之0.0225%而矣。而本地傳媒沒有列出這些安全指標作客觀比較,而頻繁地採用「更」、「勁」等主觀字眼,進而便指出雙酚A害處,使讀者在看過他們的這些報導後很容易錯覺地認為Dr. Brown’s奶樽「勁」不安全。


關於是次本地傳媒不全面兼誇張之報導事件,本公司深感失望及憤怒,至於對本品牌造成的商譽影響及經濟損失,本公司現正與法律人士商討,並保留向有關報導機構採取法律行動追究之權利。

如有任何疑問,歡迎隨時電郵[email protected][email protected](美國生產商)或致電本公司23298817查詢,亦可瀏覽www.drbrowns.hk留意最新情報。


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(註一)以下為加拿大當局網上英文版本的原本報告部份節錄內容作參考資料:
http://www.chemicalsubstanceschimiques.gc.ca/challenge-defi/study_babybottles-etude_bebe_e.html#tab1
Health Canada’sStudy of Baby Bottles and Bottle Liners Health Canadascientists recently published a study that compared levels of BPA present in non-polycarbonatebaby bottles, to levels in polycarbonate bottles. The study also lookedat bottle liners.
Context
  • The article was published in the journal Food Additives and Contaminants, in June 2009 and is available at: http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/section?content=a912638337&fulltext=713240928
  • This article reports that, in comparison with the migration (i.e., leaching of the chemical BPA from the bottle into liquid contents) from polycarbonate bottles, non-polycarbonate baby bottles and baby bottle liners showed only “trace” levels of BPA (只含微量的雙酚A). This study indicated that non-polycarbonate baby bottles, therefore, may be good alternatives to polycarbonate bottles.
  • Some bottles were found, in laboratory testing, to contain tiny, “trace” amounts of BPA, most of them in the range of parts per trillion. One part per trillion, as an example, is equivalent to one cent in $10 billion.
  • Due to advanced technological techniques, scientists are often able to detect minute quantities of substances that are of no apparent biological significance (但對人體無明顯影響).
  • These trace amounts may have been detected due to improved sensitivity of modern laboratory instruments. Such tiny amounts are not harmful.
  • The results reported in this study relate only to the items tested and should not be interpreted as indicative for all bottles and liners from any one source. Note that Health Canada did not test all products available on the Canadian market
SpecificObservations and Conclusions of the Study of Non-polycarbonate Bottles
  • In the lab, the bottles and liners were tested for the migration of BPA over various time periods using water and 10% ethanol as food simulants.
  • To measure BPA migration from bottles and liners, the sample was filled with boiling water (Table 1.) or 10% ethanol at 85 degrees C (Table 2.), then cooled to 60 degrees C and held at that temperature for 2, 22, 96, or 238 hours (approximately 2 hours, 1, 4, or 10 days). Even the least severe of these conditions (2 hours) is more severe than expected normal use. The liquid was then collected from the sample bottles and liners and the concentration of BPA was determined.
  • Nine non-polycarbonate bottles and two polycarbonate bottles were tested with water as a food simulant (Table 1.). Tests concluded that the two polycarbonate bottles contained higher levels of BPA, in comparison with the non-polycarbonate bottles. (Note: Neither of the two bottles that tested higher had claimed to be “BPA-free.”). Ten non-polycarbonate bottles and liners were also tested using 10% ethanol as a food simulant to mimic low alcohol foods, as per the guidance to industry from the United States Food and Drug Administration (Table 2.) The presence of alcohol changes the sensitivity of the test. In almost every case, there were no measurable amounts of BPA
  • The results for the two polycarbonate bottles were not included in the published study. For comparison, the results for all eleven bottles are shown below.
  • The results for the ten bottle liners tested are also shown in the tables 1 and 2.
The studyconcluded that at high temperature, migration of trace levels of BPA from somenon-polycarbonate baby bottles and bottle liners was observed. However, thesetesting conditions were designed to represent a “worst case” scenario, and weresignificantly harsher than would be found in normal use.
Based on HealthCanada’s screening assessment of BPA, the trace levels detected in this studyare much lower than those that could cause health effects. Health Canadawishes to reassure Canadians that at this time, the department has no concernswith respect to the safety of baby bottles or bottle liners made fromnon-polycarbonate plastic.

(註二)節錄資料來源:http://www.efsa.europa.eu/EFSA/efsa_locale-1178620753812_1178710289744.htm
”In an opinion published in July 2008, EFSA addressed thedifference between infants and adults in clearing BPA from the body. Resultsconfirmed that exposure to BPA was well below the TDI of 0,05 mg/kg bw for bothadults and newborns. Indeed, after exposure to BPA the human body rapidlymetabolises and eliminates the substance. Newborns can similarly clear BPA atlevels far in excess of the TDI. In its evaluation, EFSA took into account boththe previous and the most recent information and data available.”

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原帖由 natalie_lee1010 於 09-8-14 16:29 發表
我都想轉呀,但怕阿仔唔飲,諗緊買一個先,定買3個一PACK平D......HAHA
有無人用過DR BROWN奶樽可以SHARE下


囡囡依家歲半啦!個囡由出世幾日就用DR BROWN奶樽,初初係用黎飲人奶(因為揼出黎餵),到依家飲奶粉都係用DR BROWN奶樽,我囡囡無用過其他奶樽,所以都作出唔到比較,但我就覺得DR BROWN奶樽幾好,因為囡囡由細都大飲一枝奶既時間都唔駛半個鐘,仲要大多數都係一氣呵成,同埋好少嘔奶,因為DR BROWN奶樽內多左條膠管,唔駛下下都要bb放口整番d空氣出黎,咁正常就唔會吸太多空氣落肚,所以身邊d朋友生bb,我都叫佢買DR BROWN奶樽


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18#
發表於 09-8-15 11:32 |只看該作者
um....咁其實各位媽咪會選擇肥樽or廋樽的dr.brown's呢? 因為睇返上面的澄清又好似唔洗擔心廋樽有事.....

其實我自己買左8個廋樽覺得好似方便d, 因為好多烚奶樽機都可以用到, 不過聽落又好似最近肥樽安全d, 不過呢, 好似dr.brown's係07年都出現過被驗出有事既報導, 果時好似只有肥樽未有廋樽架, 咁係咪代表其實肥樽都有事呢??


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發表於 09-8-15 18:43 |只看該作者
I have tried Dr Browns wide neck bottle today, luckily, my baby has no problem to shift to Dr Browns from Chu Chu standard bottle.
原帖由 natalie_lee1010 於 09-8-14 16:29 發表
我都想轉呀,但怕阿仔唔飲,諗緊買一個先,定買3個一PACK平D......HAHA
有無人用過DR BROWN奶樽可以SHARE下
    


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20#
發表於 09-8-15 18:56 |只看該作者
轉啦!我囡囡出世用chuchu,成日掃唔到風(掃風掃到手痛;飲一次奶一般要45分鐘),又成日嘔奶,結果用咗兩個幾月終於頂唔順,買了dr. brown's,情況好咗好多!
(果幾個chuchu樽成幾百蚊,唔捨得丟,現在見到仍感心痛!)

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