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子爵府

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發表於 07-7-30 12:51 |顯示全部帖子
To be continued (2nd part of message)

唉呀, 頭先又多手打左d HK 常用字, so most words 被食左呀~~ 又要再打過...


Waikiki:


其實我覺得,小朋友番學最緊要係開心
==> this depends on 自小到大 how parents 灌輸 "甚麼是開心" 呢個定義比佢地喇..因為我都真係見過有d 父母會同小朋友講, "要贏人, 唔可以落後於別人" or "要讀書第一先會成功" or "英文好先 find 到錢, find 到錢先會開心" etc, then 久而久之, 小朋友都會認同咁先會開心, so the behaviour after will be quite different ga la...


至於我姪女,唔知會唔會同大彥同班添呢?呢個世界真細小呢!
==>唔奇架, 我大彥 (佢叫孝彥) 係小一"望"班既, you may ask your niece if she knows him la...不過唔同班都可能識佢架, 因為佢係好出名架, 出名曳下 lor... ops:" />


咁你點幫大彥搞好d英文呢?
==> 語文學習, 先前我有講過架 la, 單憑學校一日得個一兩堂係 not enough 的, the most important of all 係去 create a consistent language learning environment 比佢, 仲要就三方面, 聽講寫都下功夫先得, 唔係第日聽得唔講得, 講得唔寫得有鬼用...so at home 父母都要出出力先會效果好的.


再八卦問多d:點解你對學校有咁多心得ge?你係emb (now係edb)做過?
==> 駛鬼係入面做先知咁多咩, 只要平時多聽多睇搜集資料已可知一二 (即係要八卦), 另, 工作關係, 彥媽做呢行自會睇到收到體會到唔少心得, 再到必要時候既, 運用下一d 人脈既 network 都有用既, 出外靠朋友嘛...hehe...

[ 本文章最後由 彥彥媽咪 於 07-7-30 13:05 編輯 ]


大宅

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彥媽:
我delete jor o個邊個post喇,thanks。

bk怪怪地,你答jor我d questions未呢?睇唔到。

one more:你係味全職mama?

[ 本文章最後由 Waikiki 於 07-7-30 12:56 編輯 ]


子爵府

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waikiki

one more:你係味全職mama?
==> no ..I need to work ga...依家就去 lunch 先...back later..:mrgreen:


洋房

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Thank you 彥媽的prompt reply!

我對你所講的中學學制334所知不多,之前沒有小朋友不太留意!Sorry! 但是好似覺得讀IB好好咁噃!

近來開始留意一些直資小學,好似優才,由中四五開始行IB,但學費應沒有國際小學那些咁貴!另外好似Victoria由K1,小學至中學都是IB!?上述這些小學及中學又什樣評價?




原文章由 彥彥媽咪 於 07-7-26 17:20 發表
snoopybabi:

是否現在已同時有會考及IB兩個制度並存?
==> 並存就不嬲都有, 即係好似有會考, 有國際學校咁之嘛...國際學校d學生唔多考會考架喎...right?

等我 find one day post d IB 既野出精華區喇.. ...


子爵府

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snoopybabi:

我對你所講的中學學制334所知不多,之前沒有小朋友不太留意!Sorry! 但是好似覺得讀IB好好咁 bor~
==> "好似" , 我想問下你從佢邊方面覺得佢好好呢....(純粹八卦, 睇下你知幾多?)

近來開始留意一些直資小學,好似優才,由中四五開始行IB,但學費應沒有國際小學那些咁貴!另外好似Victoria由K1,小學至中學都是IB!?上述這些小學及中學又什樣評價?

==> 一句講哂, 之前港大同學會夠話行 IB la, 依家咪又係轉番, 搞到依家本來就係為 IB 而考入去既全部"橋"起哂, 你睇下佢地d discussion 就知, 要阿公資助既野就唔係你諗想點就可以點的, 除非係 fully self-financed 既學校就另計, so 你不難發現點解國際才學校多數係貴d的, "自由"一嬲響 HK 係要付出"代價" 既, 唉....
==> 要行 IB, 要get 到 IBO 既 approval 先得, 之後要行呢個課程既成本學校要 cover 到先得, 因此, 有鑑於要做到 IBO 既要求, 無論響師資上, 設備上都有一定要求, 因此我好難相信只比三幾千就可以行到 IB course (尤其係高年級個d).

所以彥媽都係持個句...新校既野, 講就一定好好聽的, 信唔信佢就家長自行決定了. 我就好老實 ==> 唔信. 佢做到d野出黎俾我睇我就信.

但講明先, 我唔信 =/= 叫你都唔好信呀...this is "my" way of decision making only.

[ 本文章最後由 彥彥媽咪 於 07-7-31 00:59 編輯 ]


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彥媽:
你做乜唔答我呢d問題呀??-(

Quoted from my previous message:
至於我姪女,唔知會唔會同大彥同班添呢?呢個世界真細小呢!
咁你點幫大彥搞好d英文呢?
再八卦問多d:點解你對學校有咁多心得ge?你係EMB (now係EDB)做過?

又再八卦d:咁你唔係全職mama,點分配時間呢?(因為我覺得你好勁,又做野,又識咁多野)

又再再八卦d:你做邊行?teacher?(你識咁多學校野)


子爵府

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waikiki:

你做乜唔答我呢d問題呀??-(
==> 喂喂喂....我有答的, you read my message #41 above ar....:cry:

又再八卦d:咁你唔係全職mama,點分配時間呢?(因為我覺得你好勁,又做野,又識咁多野)
==> 分配時間既野, 係決心而己, 當你好有心去做一樣野既時候你就自然會"吱"到時間的了, 其實我地多時都係d 仔 zzz 哂 (即係 now, 順便追妙手仁心 at night) 再 search info 既

又再再八卦d:你做邊行?teacher?(你識咁多學校野)
==> 教書係我 part time only (雖然以前都真係有做過好一段時間 full time) , and my students are working adults.



[ 本文章最後由 彥彥媽咪 於 07-7-30 23:55 編輯 ]


洋房

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彥媽:
Hope you still remember me. I want my son to join the english summer camp at the Little Prince learning center of Olympian City(near my home) for August. As I search BK I found that you joined it before (quite long ago). Any comments? My son also join the music wonderland course at Tom Lee. Do you think it worth as the fee is not cheap & many people keep joining for years.
Many thanks.:)


大宅

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彥媽:
係喎,你真係答晒喎,點解之前睇唔到呢?!?-(
你now 係part time 教 adults,咁full time呢?
你話你做"呢行"有d人事xxx,唔明呢。?-(

睇番精華篇,你話"最緊要 to me 既係間學校幫到阿仔, this is my priority",你覺得培正幫到呀仔d乜呢?

[ 本文章最後由 Waikiki 於 07-8-1 00:54 編輯 ]


子爵府

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paulmom:

I want my son to join the english summer camp at the Little Prince learning center of Olympian City(near my home) for August. As I search BK I found that you joined it before (quite long ago). Any comments?
==>係, 小王子以前我俾大彥番過, 個時係想試佢個 LCM course, 我一向對d有 formal assessment 既 course 都比較有興趣的, 因為呢d course 可以比我有較有系統既方法去睇到個 learning results. 當年比佢上係因為佢未夠歲去上 Cambridge, 而佢又最近個屋企, so 就 pick it.

But after a few trials (都上左幾個 round, 佢係 8 lesson per course 的, right?) 我就發覺成效不大, 因為:

1) 人數多 (around 10), not effective for language learning, 一人都講唔到 10 mins

2) 佢地教既方式都係有個講英文既老師, not necessarily native speakers, in fact most of them are ABCs or CBCs only, 年紀唔大, 我唔係歧視 young teachers, 只係個d teacher 好多似係 U 既 first year student 個停, so I wonder how much teaching experience they've got, and how well do they know about kid's training? 我對語文教育既要求唔係旨在 find 個 miss 用 1 hr 係咁同佢地講英文就 = 學英文, 因為要咁我係屋企都得啦, 唔駛老遠去仲要俾錢咁去學的, so I need a "syllabus" 唔係隨意發揮

3) 佢地既 course design 係以唔同 topic 為主題, 之後就成堂就圍繞呢個 topic 講...本來呢個 idea 係唔錯既, e.g. 一堂會教動物名稱等, 但佢地又唔係教 rat, elephant 呢d , 而係 reptiles , porcupine 呢停都幾深既字, 大彥當年係 3.x - 4 歲左右, 之前亦未有過呢類生字既 training, so I wonder 係咪應該教d 常用字多過呢d 深到你都唔多用既字呢....

4) 上左都幾個 round , 除左佢響聽個方面好似好左少少, i.e. at least 唔會成句唔明人地講乜, 不過 I believe 都係估多過明 ga la...so 我開始明白 the course doesn't fit him, or I should say, doesn't fit a kid who is only about 3 or 4, even though the school said it's fine.

所以之後我就轉左, 改用 private coach 小組教, cos then I can discuss with the teacher to use the most appropriate syllabus for the kids.

依家我會比大彥去 learn Cambridge 個d instead of LCM.



My son also join the music wonderland course at Tom Lee. Do you think it worth as the fee is not cheap & many people keep joining for years.
==> 若附近冇 other similar courses which is of lower price 既, 你又唔想佢百無了賴咁 at home 的話, 咁 these courses 都 OK 既. Otherwise 有d 社區中心呀咁都有搞既, 不過就未必可以俾太細既小朋友參加就真.

So the question goes back to : 你想唔想佢早d 去 join 呢類 course la...so if 想, 就都係來來去去得呢幾個 choice 的了, i.e. 唔係呢個就係柏斯, 一係就通利....係得佢地會搞比d 細既小朋友 ge.



[ 本文章最後由 彥彥媽咪 於 07-8-1 03:30 編輯 ]


子爵府

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waikiki:

你話你做"呢行"有d人事xxx,唔明呢。
==> 唔明都唔緊要喇...forum 係 open place 我唔想俾人認出第時比人伏擊 wor...haha...做人最緊要低調嘛...


睇番精華篇,你話"最緊要 to me 既係間學校幫到阿仔, this is my priority",你覺得培正幫到呀仔d乜呢?
==> 一睇你咁問就知你冇溫書喇....關於 PC, 我點解揀佢, etc...我之前己講過唔少, 你問既野我都答過哂, so dun wanna repeat here...黎 join 彥媽係有個不成文規矩既, i.e. 要溫書, please go back to read 答問區 part 1 la...反正你都想知彥媽點解可以知咁多野, 你得閒就幾頁幾頁咁睇你就會知 ga la.

呢樹我好多 mama friends 都溫哂書架....唔得偏心你 only 的.

[ 本文章最後由 彥彥媽咪 於 07-8-1 03:24 編輯 ]


洋房

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原文章由 彥彥媽咪 於 07-7-30 15:10 發表
snoopybabi:

我對你所講的中學學制334所知不多,之前沒有小朋友不太留意!Sorry! 但是好似覺得讀IB好好咁 bor~
==> "好似" , 我想問下你從佢邊方面覺得佢好好呢....(純粹八卦, 睇下你知幾多?) ...

彥媽, 你考番我轉頭, 好有心理壓力呀!
"好似"整個制度不同一般高考等, 要根據考試評分,而是按學生興趣的課題做project研習, 據聞要中英文根底好及要有多元化的興趣及見識?! (呢個答案可能得30%-40%分

彥媽據你所講,似乎我哋呢D平民百姓都可以唔駛唸啦!:-(

另外,彥媽,我覺得你用你咁多寶貴時間同我哋傾偈實在太偉大啦,我要封你做我嘅精神領袖!


子爵府

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snoopybabi:

"好似"整個制度不同一般高考等, 要根據考試評分,而是按學生興趣的課題做project研習, 據聞要中英文根底好及要有多元化的興趣及見識?! (呢個答案可能得30%-40%分 ops:" />ops:" />ops:" />ops:" />
==> concept-wsie 係 right direction la....你慢慢 read 我響"精華篇"打既野喇....我會逐d 打出黎 all those about IB.


彥媽據你所講,似乎我地呢D平民百姓都可以唔駛唸啦!:-(

==> 籠統地講, 你可以話係, 但其實佢既理念係就係俾小朋友係一個 multi-cultural 既環境上"自由學習", and this will mean 小班教學, project approach 用既資源亦絕對比就咁坐定定上堂為高, 所以基於成本既考慮下, 唔會平係一定的, 之但係又唔係一定要去到d 好 top 既 IB school la...而且若好多家庭係講緊 1 kid only ge, 我絕對信係好多人可以負擔得到既. 但個問題係 most kids taking IB syllabus 都多數會出國, 因為考本地大學根本讀唔讀 IB 都得, 所以 if you are not going to send the kids abroad 既, 我又睇唔到一定要讀 IB ge...至於你話佢個 approach 好, well...我只可以講, 每種 "產品" 都有佢一定既捧場客, 亦有佢既優缺點, 而人地呢種產品好就=/= 我地自家既產品差既, 各有所需 only la...


另外,彥媽,我覺得你用你咁多寶貴時間同我地傾偈實在太偉大啦,我要封你做我既精神領袖!
==>thank you thank you, 得閒就多d黎坐啦~~

[ 本文章最後由 彥彥媽咪 於 07-8-1 14:46 編輯 ]


洋房

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彥媽:
Thank you very much for your info. I really appreciate your reply but 3:30am to me is really late night. I would feel sorry if you got tired or sick. So next time no hurry. Good rest is #1. It may also hard for you to type a lot in details and I don't mind if you make it short (Although I enjoy reading your comments).
So far I didn't hear much bad commets in BK about "Little Prince" so I think it should be OK, and I just join it for summer only. About Tom Lee I heard that their courses had a long waiting list so I just want to see anything special by trying for a month. I like to build up some music sense to my son and prepare him for piano later. I remember you let you 1st son learning piano at 4 w/private teacher & own piano.(Maybe you planned to have 3 kids?) I think I may consider a digital piano instead (piano is big investment).
Thanks again & feel good to chat with you !


原文章由 彥彥媽咪 於 07-8-1 03:18 發表
paulmom:

I want my son to join the english summer camp at the Little Prince learning center of Olympian City(near my home) for August. As I search BK I found that you joined it before (quite ...


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彥媽:
我溫jor書架喇,你話鐘意佢ge教學法,師資同環境麻(類似係咁)但你係精華篇到,特別話"最緊要 to me 既係間學校幫到呀仔",我係想知真正實際係點幫到呢?有無例子可以share 下呢?for example,大彥有無因為入jor PC已改變jor d野呢?


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有位新加入 "wongshuikei" 既 mama friend 因為 somehow post 唔到 message here, so she sent PM to me. 但因為佢既問題可能大家都會有興趣, 所以得佢同意下, 我先 post 出黎再答...


彥媽媽,您好!

唔好意思,不知為何不能post 以下message,唯有pm您...

我bb女而家14個月,想幫佢搵n1 (因我係全職媽媽,bb而家俾公公婆婆照顧)。知道幼稚園/幼兒園對日後升邊間小學影響不大,但都想請教以下問題:

1) 好似銅鑼灣間聖保祿小學,會收佢哋幼兒園學生,我家住北角,請問喺港島區仲有無其他類似嘅好校風同學習風氣嘅小學連幼兒園/幼稚園?
2) 我自己以前讀玫瑰崗小學,所以根據計分法,最大機會就係番去讀,我都知佢嘅小學都ok (只係ok)。如果你係我,會唔會1st round 就「安全地」去讀玫瑰崗,定試吓其他,唔得先再「叩門」?
3) 喺番我北角個網,有無d其他好(您會選擇)嘅小學呢? (因看完您嘅文章後,十分同意你對教養小朋友的理念,所以無謂將您嘅文字再copy & paste 去 define 我覺得嘅「好」)

Million thanks in advance!!!


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wongshuikei:

1) 好似銅鑼灣間聖保祿小學,會收佢哋幼兒園學生,我家住北角,請問喺港島區仲有無其他類似嘅好校風同學習風氣嘅小學連幼兒園/幼稚園?
==> HK 本來就一向都唔多呢類學校的, HK island 就更甚, 所以 St Paul 一向都超爭崩頭的, 要想由幼稚園直升上小學既唔多, 另一間你可以考慮聖心喇.


2) 我自己以前讀玫瑰崗小學,所以根據計分法,最大機會就係番去讀,我都知佢嘅小學都ok (只係ok)。如果你係我,會唔會1st round 就「安全地」去讀玫瑰崗,定試吓其他,唔得先再「叩門」?
==> RH (Rosary Hill) 小學都 OK 既, 中學就真係麻麻地, 佢個商科部更不敢恭維, 但......佢小學係私立 ga wor, so 同你地係咪校友唔太有關 (係官津校先計分 ga ja) , 所以根本唔存在 1st round 呢樣野, 你大可以先去考當 back up (除非收得你就唔俾你搞珠喇) 然後 1st round + 2nd round 都去揀另一d 更好既學校, so 呢兩個 action 係冇抵觸的.


3) 喺番我北角個網,有無d其他好(您會選擇)嘅小學呢? (因看完您嘅文章後,十分同意你對教養小朋友的理念,所以無謂將您嘅文字再copy & paste 去 define 我覺得嘅「好」)
==> 呢個問題我都答過好幾次, 見你新黎, 俾你一個 quota, 再講一次, 下不為例...

官津:
Net 14: 北循, 北衛, 聖公會聖米迦勒小學, Canossa,
Net 16 : 基灣, 聖公會聖米迦勒小學


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waikiki:


我溫jor書架 la
==> 你溫哂未先得 ga, 要知最多, 要睇埋答問區既...Part 1 + Part 2 ga wor...我同d mama chat 時已有講...

你話鐘意佢ge教學法,師資同環境麻(類似係咁)
==> so this is what I want PC to "help" my son la..

但你係精華篇到,特別話"最緊要 to me 既係間學校幫到呀仔",我係想知真正實際係點幫到呢?有無例子可以share 下呢?for example,大彥有無因為入jor PC已改變jor d野呢?
==> 有...簡單黎講, 係學懂守規, 尊重別人, 雖然學習過程唔係一朝一夕, 亦可能係好多人眼中會覺得咁係 "好傳統, 要人坐定定, 成 日比老師哦" etc, 但我既睇法係, 放鬆係好易, 收緊就好難, 所以依家緊小小對小朋友未必係一件壞事, 我一向認為人係要自由, 但亦需要學懂響唔影響人地既時候去自由咁先係更好喇...so PC 對學生品行係執得幾緊的, 呢點我支持.

大彥係呢方面未算係做得最好, but I can see he is progressing positively in this way and I am happy to see that.

[ 本文章最後由 彥彥媽咪 於 07-8-2 09:35 編輯 ]


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paulmom:

So far I didn't hear much bad commets in BK about "Little Prince" so I think it should be OK, and I just join it for summer only.
==> no harm try ge...it's also a learning process for parents, right?

About Tom Lee I heard that their courses had a long waiting list so I just want to see anything special by trying for a month.
==> well..it's simply bcos all parents are fighting for Sat/Sun classes only, so that's why there is a long waiting list la...I am sure there are more vacancies for those classes on weekdays.

I like to build up some music sense to my son and prepare him for piano later. I remember you let you 1st son learning piano at 4 w/private teacher & own piano.(Maybe you planned to have 3 kids?) I think I may consider a digital piano instead (piano is big investment).
==> I bought a piano not bcos I know my plan to have 3 kids, but I have checked with many experienced piano teachers and they told me that the "formal" way to learn piano is to use a "real" piano, but not a digital one, cos the weight of the keys are different and therefore the keystrokes would be different too. That's why I tend to follow the "formal" way of learning, and thus I bought a traditional one.

With discounts and a good piano teacher to help me in picking one, our piano costs less than $15,000 only, which fits my budget.


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彦彦媽媽:

依家學吓用中文打字, 因為始終親切D, 同埋可以表達出語氣,呢樣英文好難做到. 其實坊間D 林林種種 courses 真係超多, 但係上BK好少有 forum 討論或 comments, 同埋要 search 是非常難, 好散. 其實好多 Mom 都有比仔女上 courses, 但真係唔多出来討論, 唔通大家認為唔重耍?
Piano 其實我都知 traditional 嘅係好, 但萬一阿仔唔係咁有興趣(呢樣野都好 common) 咁都唔使咁重本麻.

原文章由 彥彥媽咪 於 07-8-2 01:07 發表
paulmom:

So far I didn't hear much bad commets in BK about "Little Prince" so I think it should be OK, and I just join it for summer only.
==> no harm try ge...it's also a learning process f ...

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