I've joined their package in March this year, they charged me $17,000 for losing 13 pounds, but I lost not even 1 pound for 2 months. The only thing I get from there is I learn from their dietitian how to change my "eating habbit". In other words, I can join MSL which is far more cheaper. I am now trying to follow those healthy rules of cooking and eating, and see whether these could help me to reduce my weight. If not, I will join MSL afterwards.