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大宅

積分: 1956


發表於 05-7-10 03:53 |顯示全部帖子

我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

又係我~ 哎~

我新工人(今次係賓)做左8日, 我放足8日假晌屋企睇佢, 有以下既"特點":

1. 一黎到就準備好晒"香港僱佣條例"小冊子 同 "賓賓工會"求助熱線單張

2. 我叫佢初初黎到, 唔好放假住, 我補水俾佢, 因為我想佢spend多d時間習慣呢度既生活同工作, 但佢即刻話: "Mum, I would like to have my holiday once a week if available!" :lol:

3. 佢英文係好好~ 但係成日唔講野, 唔同我地講又唔同呀b講... 呀b唔跟佢, 佢又唔會講野'tum'下佢, 餵呀b食飯又凈係用手餵(唔會同佢講野, 好似robot)

4. 唔識煮飯, 家務大致上麻麻 --- e.g. 拖地拖到個地濕噠噠.... <---我都唔怪佢喇~

5. 尋日放佢假, 講明10am - 8:30pm, 佢9:30am就著定衫, 準時10:00am出門口, 夜晚8:40pm先返, 我無話佢, 不過覺得佢好好意思囉~~

6. 簡野食: 唔鐘意食carrot, 蔬菜, 橙, 桃駁梨, oreo餅(早餐)

7. 無耐性, 容易放棄: 餵呀b食蘋果茸/奶, 未食晒剩返少少, 就倒左佢..... 同呀b睇flash cards, 睇小小, 呀b走左去, 佢就收埋晒佢, 當睇晒!:-x

8. [size=large]最大問題: 湊唔掂我個女!!!!!!我個女c都唔肯跟佢呀!!! 唔知點解自從賓賓黎左後就晏晝/夜晚都好難先tum到佢訓... 夜晚一晚醒3-5次大喊!!!!!!!! :-( 日頭又係無啦啦勁喊兼發脾氣... 工人一想抱佢, 佢就走兼大喊, 見到我地就癡到實, 連我去廁所放低佢都勁喊.... 前日開始仲喊到把聲沙晒, 沙到今日(沙到我聽唔清楚佢講乜)去睇醫生... 侯嚨聲帶發炎 :cry: ! 仲有我個女行為大倒退... 半年前已經每一個鐘去一次廁所坐potty.... 但宜家一聽到工人話"wee wee' 就走同唔肯去, 捉佢入廁所就唔肯坐potty兼狂喊反抗.... 連片都唔俾人同佢換!!!!!!!!!!! :cry:

點解我咁命苦?!?!? 請個蠢得滯又激死我, 請個叻既又係唔掂, 仲驚佢醒過龍.........

究竟點先可以請到個好工人呢???????


珍珠宮

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發表於 05-7-10 13:17 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

IceCrm,

我覺得你個新工人完全唔掂囉. 你應該同佢坐低詳細講一次你既要求, 包括點樣照顧你呀b同個女, 仲有佢既工作態度問題. 同佢講, 如果佢達唔到你既要求, 叫佢執定包袱返屋企.

你要記住, 請工人係幫你, 而唔係比麻煩或煩惱你!! 總之要記住, 最初一定要強硬, set好曬guidelines同schedule比佢. 你要知道, 如果你食唔住佢, 就會比佢食番轉頭~~~~

如果佢無改善, 快快炒左佢搵另一個, 千祈唔好祈望比多少少時間佢會變, 棧你失望咋~~


珍珠宮

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發表於 05-7-10 13:45 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

icecrm,
我諗你個賓賓可能都唔係咁易教架喇, 佢初初黎到都咁樣, 相信係就算叫佢改善, 都唔會keep到好耐, 不如同agent講下換過個啦.


伯爵府

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發表於 05-7-10 23:26 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

IceCrm, give her some time la.
Only 8 days. It is her first time to work as a maid and first time to be away from home. Since her english is good, try to commuicate with her more. Be patient la!



別墅

積分: 817


發表於 05-7-11 00:36 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

hi Icecrm,
It's me, one day later than you to summit applicatoin to imm dept.
It's new for your maid to work in your hse. Maybe the old maid is all automatic to do all housework and take care your daughter, just spend more time and patience to teach the new one. The main pt is that is she willing to learn ??? If she open herself to learn and has improvement, that's fine. Otherwise, when you teach her and she is impatient and blackface, then i think she's not a suitable one for you la.


複式洋房

積分: 286


發表於 05-7-11 10:38 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

Hi IceCrm,

Just want to share my feeling with you. It happened to my family 2 years ago.

I guess your maid must be a University graduate in Phil. Her English must be very good and fluent, and that's why she looks down upon your family. Your case is exactly the same as mine. Initially I was so stupid to think that a maid with good English will provide a good environment for my kids to speak and learn English, then I tried very hard to search a good English maid, who is 25 years old, University graduate with good English. Her working attitude is exactly the same as your maid. She was lazy, always pull her long face to my family, always ignore the children as well as the instructions from the employer. It ended up in termination in 3 months time.

Now I got a good maid, 28 years old, married with 2 children of her own. She is just a high school graduate with poor English, but her working attitude is far far more better than the previous one. I can say she is better than most of the Indonesians. She is hardworking, obedient, love children, and most of all, she respect me as her employer.

So try your luck then...


翡翠宮

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發表於 05-7-11 10:50 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

你個工人真係好唔掂, 我唔知佢攞個d勞工手則係專登比你睇到佢有呢d野在手, 定係你唔覺意睇到 若果佢係專登我會鬧佢香港法例我熟過你, 我無諗過騙你, 若要我騙你, 你亦都唔會有機會搵到破綻.

另外, 你唔想換工人的話你要好好咁同佢傾下比兩個星期時間佢, 唔理佢用咩方法一定要冧掂你個女否則 say goodbye, 若佢未湊過小朋友的話你可比少少心得佢, 叫佢陪佢玩多d唱下歌仔睇下vcd先, 唔會好似噁巴咁對住d小朋友, 唔好話小朋友你話我係大人都頂你唔順
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大宅

積分: 1933


發表於 05-7-11 12:29 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

照咁睇佢係一個無愛心及耐性既工人。。。祝你好運!!!


大宅

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發表於 05-7-11 13:15 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

Hi, Icecream,

fully agree with wskwok, I think this maid will cause you problems.

Just like I have told you before, if you hire a maid with no experience but University graduate, you need to anticipate these things will happen, it seems to me that your maid is not the kind who is willing to take care of kid. If she ask for a day off on the first few weeks, I think she must have a lot of friends here in HK and she came here for gathering rather than learn how to became a proper maid. I have changed many maids before, so far, all the maids I hire will accept compensation leave in the first few weeks because I want to learn more things at home.

If I were you, I will not waste anymore time, quickly find another maid and fire this one once you found one. One thing I must draw your attention is that if your daughter is so afraid of her, you got to be careful, she might have done something to her when you are not around. A few years ago when my daughter is about 2 years old, I also changed maids two times within one year, everytime I change the maid, my daughter get used to the new maid in just less than a week.

wskwok 寫道:
Hi IceCrm,

Just want to share my feeling with you. It happened to my family 2 years ago.

I guess your maid must be a University graduate in Phil. Her English must be very good and fluent, and that's why she looks down upon your family. Your case is exactly the same as mine. Initially I was so stupid to think that a maid with good English will provide a good environment for my kids to speak and learn English, then I tried very hard to search a good English maid, who is 25 years old, University graduate with good English. Her working attitude is exactly the same as your maid. She was lazy, always pull her long face to my family, always ignore the children as well as the instructions from the employer. It ended up in termination in 3 months time.

Now I got a good maid, 28 years old, married with 2 children of her own. She is just a high school graduate with poor English, but her working attitude is far far more better than the previous one. I can say she is better than most of the Indonesians. She is hardworking, obedient, love children, and most of all, she respect me as her employer.

So try your luck then...


大宅

積分: 1956


發表於 05-7-12 14:48 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

Hi, Thank you all of your comments and sharing!

Yes, she is university graduated, 5 years teacher experience and first time to work overseas.

It was myself so 一廂情願 (仲以為自己執到寶... 哎~) believed that a well-educated maid can provide good English environment for my kid, but the fact made me very disappointed because she doesn't like to speak to my kid and everyone of us here. I very much agree with wskwok, seems that she looks down at the Hong Kong people cannot really speak very fluent English as she can. On the 2nd day she worked for me, she already asks me if everybody can speak English as I do, I answered her, ' for my generation, most of us can speak English, but may not be very fluent as native. For my mum's generation, they can understand simple English but they may not be able t express themselves in Eng. If you would like to make life easier in HK, I think you should earn some simple Cantonese, at least some food items and simple commands because the sellers in wet market, they don't really speak good Eng and they may not understand you.' Her response to my answer was quite odd at that moment.

These few days, I observes her very closely. I found that her attitude was not very good too.. and 我覺得佢無心機同 我個女玩.... Becos I taught her how to communicate with my daughter with Disney's World of English (DWE), I think it's easier for her to handle my daughter if she read the books with my daughter or sing her songs because my daughter loves everything of DWE very much.... but what I have observed was she only took out the books for her, then she just sit on the sofa and let my daughter to hold the book, not reading with her or saying anything to her at all. :cry: In my mind, if somebody love children and want to get close to the kid, she has to 投其所好, right??

Anyway, I have issued the one way air-ticket and will send her back home tomorrow morning. I have expected she will definitely ask me 'WHY?'<-- she always asked me WHY when I ask her to do something!!! Becos she always thinks she is 'no problem' and always 高姿態.

It is my bad luck and 有眼無珠請著佢... for here only 12 days (but she did amost nothing within these days) that I will pay her everything ACCORDING TO LABOUR ORDINANCE (我好唔憤氣要pay her 1-month wage in lieu of notice, but I will pay).


男爵府

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發表於 05-7-12 14:54 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

你比多d時間你同工人..佢可能未習慣你同你個囡既生活模式.

我工人來左3weeks.我個囝都未好肯跟佢.但就已經進步左.起碼唔怕佢先.感情要培養,我都比緊時間觀察.起碼2-3個月.我都望緊呢一日既來臨..

不過佢咁冇耐性,冇心機揍囡就真係


男爵府

積分: 5099


發表於 05-7-12 15:06 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

工人高學歷未必是好事,我工人初中程度,
但對小朋友好,做家務又ok,同my佢幾受教,雖然不是無得彈,但都叫幾好咁喇。
所以洩左d錢同佢續返約,我都覺ok。


大宅

積分: 2440


發表於 05-7-12 16:28 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

IceCrm,
我之前都有差不多的經驗; 我仔一見佢個新工人(賓)就大叫大喊仲叫佢走. 因個工人完全唔識同我仔(當時2歲)溝通.
個工人有2年在中東照顧2-5歲小朋友工作經驗; 需然佢好用心學但沒有用腦去想"辨法", 每當我仔喊要佢走, 佢就彈開任仔仔喊, 因唔想仔仔唔開心喎.....
個工人態度及清潔都有90分以上; 但他完全不懂與仔仔溝通..所以7日就bye bye...
之後我請咗個在HK完約, 他懂怎"tum"仔仔玩... 由一開始都無抗拒佢....... 所以有時都要睇D大少及大小姐對工人的接受程度.... good luck!!!


複式洋房

積分: 286


發表於 05-7-12 16:51 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

Hi IceCrm,

I'm sure this time you have really made a good decision of sending her back home. She's no hope in your family. Next time when you choose a maid, don't choose this type.... it's disaster..... That's why I purposely choose those maids with low education level (i.e. junior high school). They would be so "inch". My previous maid also asked me the same question as your maid. She even said it is ridicious to know that Hong Kong people's English standard is so so poor, when compared with Philippine. I was mega mad at that time. How dare she?......


別墅

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發表於 05-7-12 23:08 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

你的新工人,完全唔掂!


侯爵府

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發表於 05-7-12 23:13 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

你比少少時間佢啦!我剛剛請了個賓賓兩個幾月,主力湊八個月bb,我屋企冇老人家,佢都係大學生,未婚,係菲做住家工湊bb,第一次到香港,英文幾好,好多生字我都要問返佢,最初十幾二十日,佢犯了不少錯,而且唔係小事,加上有好多湊bb習慣要重新教過,我都好激氣,即刻想換人,不過我覺得佢對我個女幾好,都幾有耐性,有時同佢唱吓歌,同讀故事書比佢聽,仲教佢拍手仔,一個月後情況已有好轉

其實佢地幾蠢,你要講/寫明你的要求,唔可能樣樣都要佢做足,我話明主力係湊bb,其他工作可以放其次,或者留返星期六做,咁佢就花多d心機去照顧bb,同佢玩,其他工作如果唔牽涉安全問題我都會隻眼開隻眼閉,講真,只要佢湊掂我個女我已經好滿足. :lol:
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複式洋房

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發表於 05-7-13 14:00 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

Agreed! The most important issue is maid's attitude. This Saturday will be the last day of my maid. She is experienced and good in English. However, her attitude is quite bad and sometimes show you long face. Lazy and impatient so it is very dangerous to leave my two kids to her. She started working with me in January and she worked in Singapore before.

She told my husband two days before that she had signed a new contract only after two days I gave her the notice of early termination. Her new employer is a Japanese couple with a 2.5 years old son. The family lives in N.T. She will have Sunday off (I only allowed her to have Saturday off but she agreed before signing the contract) and only do shopping with her new employer.

If this is true, I wish her all the best.


大宅

積分: 1956


發表於 05-7-13 15:27 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 我新工人湊唔掂我個女!!!

Thank you for all your support! :-P I am now very happy because I have kicked her out by this early morning at 8am. 我覺得我無炒錯佢... 因為佢晌philippines都唔係窮, 所以佢d態度唔係好志在... 同埋佢覺得又要湊我個女, 又要做家務好辛苦... (我都唔駛佢煮飯買送啦~) 佢分明就係簡僱主啦.... 見過我auntie屋企個工人淨係清潔同煮飯, 日頭個個返晒工, 佢未覺得好正囉~~~ But she is a very clever person..... I can say 佢個腦轉得好快囉...
1. 我一話要dismiss佢, 叫佢簽收返d文件... 佢就話要打電話....

2. 我俾機票佢,佢第一句就話唔走, 要find a new employer, 問我張機票valid幾耐...

3. 話要囉左張正式身份證先, 我話你黎左十幾日, 邊有咁快得... 同埋我話係agent幫你囉, 叫佢問返agent.. 唔關我事...

第一次出國都咁醒....

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