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大宅

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發表於 05-10-13 15:08 |只看該作者

Re: Help! The bun got pregnant!!!!

Geoffreymom
你brother自己都咁怕事, 我地同佢絞盡腦汁都幫唔到佢架喎 :-x
Prudence is my Treasure. She was born on 04 Nov 2004~ p:-Dq


男爵府

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42#
發表於 05-10-13 15:21 |只看該作者

Re: Help! The bun got pregnant!!!!

講得對呀。geoofreymom,其實你大佬有很多的options的,只不過他自己俾自己的limitations太多了。講左一些,他又話唔得...有什麼他自己係得的?不如你叫他講下,我們睇完後再想一想有什麼方法去enhance它啦。

得罪講,你大佬,有要驚個工人玩野,又唔"訓"氣俾錢俾個工人,見到個工人搵police去大他,他又退步,其實都俾個工人睇穿晒你大佬啦。什麼都唔願意去嘗試,但又唔想花時間去同個工人玩...邊有兩全其美呀?要我們幫手俾advice,都要知你大佬的立場先。


大宅

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43#
發表於 05-10-13 15:54 |只看該作者

Re: Help! The bun got pregnant!!!!

我想,如果你大哥保持這種態度,我們也幫不了忙.Tweetybird 及其它媽媽說對.

要有收成便要付出.這麼多limitiation付錢給他的helper 吧.
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別墅

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44#
發表於 05-10-13 16:23 |只看該作者

Re: Help! The bun got pregnant!!!!

I totally agree that my brother was the first problem. I had the same feeling as yours when I discussed with him last Sun, but after all, he’s my beloved brother. He is too easy going and so the maid has such an attitude. The maid was not as cunning as now when she worked for me 6 yrs ago when she first came to HK. He is willing to compensate the bitch for his mistakes (renew her contract and let her go home) but feeling extremely pissed off. He feels very hopeless as there is no justice in the Law. His latest idea is letting the bitch to stay here and work as usual until he cannot stand with her (cos her tummy gets bigger and bigger and her actions getting slower) or the bitch can’t stand with the family (in case she has health problems), they will then agree the bill and separated. In fact, my brother is that kind of person who willing to spend money in return for a peaceful mind, but it will definitely set a bad example for other DH to abuse the current legislation.

Anyway, I’ll encourage him to do something on her and let her know that our HK ERs are not as easy as they think. Thanks for all your replies again. Also, pls learn from my brother’s case
1) 帶佢去醫生到打避孕針 before she goes home is the best and only way to protect ourselves if she is still at fertility age.
2) Pre- signed resignation letter is useless in case of pregnancy or sickness.


大宅

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45#
發表於 05-10-13 16:46 |只看該作者

Re: Help! The bun got pregnant!!!!

Geoffreymom
盡你能力去說服你大佬吧, 不單為左佢自己, 同時亦都為左我地呢班僱主, 唔好比d maid有樣學樣呀, 謝謝~
Prudence is my Treasure. She was born on 04 Nov 2004~ p:-Dq


男爵府

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46#
發表於 05-10-13 17:18 |只看該作者

Re: Help! The bun got pregnant!!!!

你大哥即是原地踏步。總之一日個工人唔做到令你大佬嘔血,你大佬都係工人不仁,他都不會不義....。他要等到個工人開口話要走做主動...唉...你又想一想,如果個工人見到個僱主由得她什麼都唔使做,係度嘆,恐下個老細又得米,o甘好的工去邊殊拉?你估係你,你自己走唔走呀?俾我衰些都留到生先走,又或者放產假時,同個b返老家俾家人照顧,跟著就回來香港去番你大佬屋企呀。她會無懼一切,就算生完,她亦唔會做得好的,你大佬又咪係要變對同一問題。

他請了個工人就等如無請,suppose個工人係helper,但你大佬就要照顧埋她...唉...睇怕你大佬都係要等待時機到他個工人完約為止,事件方告終結了。

坦白講,好彩你大佬教書應該有番個錢,如果唔係..我都唔敢想了....

我始終覺得不了了之,唔係一個辦法...


別墅

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發表於 05-10-13 18:08 |只看該作者

Re: Help! The bun got pregnant!!!!

Tweetybird, I agree with u that the maid has an incentive to stay unless she has health problem. But the point is our Gov’t has never protected the taxpayers through legislation, instead we have to protect ourselves through all kinds of 剋薄 actions to defer the unreasonable claims from them. Do the Gov’t know that they are creating a conflicting situation between ERs and DHs and worsen the relationship. I think the pregnant maids are not protected to such an extent in their home countries.


男爵府

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48#
發表於 05-10-14 09:08 |只看該作者

Re: Help! The bun got pregnant!!!!

geoffreymom

好明白你的想法。就係因為個政府無policy及protection俾我們這些外傭僱主,我們先要自己堅強起來,自己團結起來,你單單看看你post了這個case,有幾多個熱心的媽媽來幫你替你大佬想辦法。政府幾helpful,睇怕唔多講都知。如其等政府去解決問題而又唔知幾時...到不如自己想一想有什麼可以做去保護下自己。

唔通個政府一日唔想出辦法,那麼當我們遇著這些衰工人時,就由得她嗎?係目前,蝕底的一定係我們這些的僱主的,難道就係因為o甘,我們就要由得個工人隨心所欲嗎?其實係無障之前,我們就要一係炒了個工人,如果啖氣落唔到的,那就要花心思同個工人玩落去。

坦白講,目前你大佬的case就係有以上選擇了,如果他依然都係這樣,我覺得都無什麼的提議可以再俾你們了。我始終縱容出來的後果會更加無法無天,除非她係一個有守規矩的人,但他個工人唔係呀嘛。

對唔住,不過聽見你大佬的處理工人問題的態度覺得有點兒勞氣,如果今次個工人真係做到生,然後有返番來你大佬到做。睇怕個工人真係當故仔那樣話俾同鄉知,如果那些同綁真係有樣學樣,那麼唔知邊個請著她的人又當災了.........


男爵府

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49#
發表於 05-10-14 09:42 |只看該作者

Re: Help! The bun got pregnant!!!!

Geoffreymom,

雖然你阿哥立場咁樣,但係我覺得裝cam都冇壞架,就算你阿哥唔會睇番,個工人都唔會知,只不過係比一件野放係屋企扮監視個工人啫,我諗起碼個衰人唔會做得乜出樣,做野態度應該會好d。如果假如咁啱有一日你阿哥得閒,咪睇番囉,有時d野,咁啱得咁"橋",就係咁會比你撞中。


大宅

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50#
發表於 05-10-14 11:39 |只看該作者

Re: Help! The bun got pregnant!!!!

Geoffreymom,

妳試吓叫妳呀哥請多個工人, 呢招叫做'以夷制夷', 最好請印印, 等佢地無得溝通, 要佢地住埋一間房, 個大肚菲傭實唔做野, 而個印印實唔低得, 咁妳呀哥可暗中受權個印印指個菲傭做野, 同埋寫低個菲傭偷懶既時間同情形, 最妳裝埋cam, 有人証有物証, 個菲傭唔頂得好耐...
不過, 妳呀哥實厭麻煩...


男爵府

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51#
發表於 05-10-14 15:34 |只看該作者

Re: Help! The bun got pregnant!!!!

其實我都有咁的遭遇.在請她之前,我們都有口頭說明她不可以大肚(因為知道她在香港有菲律賓男友).誰知不到三個月就大咗肚,到差不多6,7個月突然入院,最後發覺她小產.最終她告到勞資審裁處,告我們十多條罪,多到出奇及有些控罪莫名其妙,比如沒有放公眾假期,欠人工,在菲律賓預備文件來港工作的花費(萬多港幣),產假等等.發覺她們有工會幫助,每次上庭,工會都有工作人員陪同,而你則孤身作戰.而勞工處看起來似乎很偏幫好們.為什麼這樣說?她告我的罪名,我有一半以上可以提出証據說明她誣告,比如說沒有給人工,我有她簽收文件(不過,未上堂前見她不停學寫簽名).雖然,最終沒有大損失,只賠機票,travelling expenses,不過,要花很多時間上庭不值得.即使你有白紙黑字說明合約期間不可以懷孕,因扺觸法律,沒有約束力.仍然要給足假期產假,若她生埋BB,如果沒有犯錯,你不可以炒她,到時家裡多了個BB(基於人道立場,法庭不會判工人與BB分開),到時是否變相養多一人?

所以一定有損失,問題是如何將損失減到最少.我比較你幸運的是直到她小產我們都不知道她懷孕.有些朋友曾試過知道工人有孕.都辦到不知道,先下手為強,藉故炒她,賠足一個月人工及機票.

有時都很懷疑,勞工法例,需要它保障時好似沒有什麼用,但講到工人,卻保護得很.兩年合約,10星期產假,加上懷孕10月,問你僱主怎麼辦?


大宅

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52#
發表於 05-10-14 17:14 |只看該作者

Re: Help! The bun got pregnant!!!!

之前有人提議"莊"佢, 我覺得可行喎, 雖然佢未必上當, 但不防一試, 如果佢真係偷野斷正, 可以拉佢, 叫你阿哥預先抄低晒d銀紙號碼,

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