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[2006年] 社團註冊 important information


民房

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發表於 06-7-31 19:58 |顯示全部帖子

社團註冊 important information

I have a 社團註冊 in the past but now changed to a limited company due to huge legal liability for 社團註冊 in case of accident happened.

All the members need to noted that once you registered as member, you have the legal liability to share the risk in case of accident happened.

For example, a baby was seriously hurt in one of the function leading to a huge amount of claims such as xx million dollars, all the members need to equally share the compensation.

Another example is the bankrupt of the 社團, all the members need to share the legal liability.

As the baby function have potential risk, all the members need to note the above information.

Besides, you need to have the constitution stating the formation of the 社團 and need to have annual general meeting for committee election. You need to send the constitution and minutes of meeting of the AGM to police force and bank for record.

Please also noted that you need to have $5000 or more in the bank, otherwise, the bank will deduct the administration fee every months.

Bingo Lam


男爵府

國民生產總值:7403


發表於 06-7-31 21:08 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 社團註冊 important information

bingolam

As the chairperson to be of 0601 FAMILY, I guess I have to say thank you for your sharing and care to our members.

Firstly, I do also have a society registered for my kitchen for over 5 years and the police has never asked me for any AGM, minutes or committee election.

For the bank charges, we understand that there exists in most bank and to my concern, it is just around $50 per month, and to be shared among a group of members, it is not a big no.

About the accident, touch wood, if in case it is happened during our gathering, what do you think the injured one could claim to if we have or have not the society registered?? I don't really know what the difference is, or you have something more to share with us??

And perhaps we have to know also that all our committee members are volunteer, we register a society is just for the benefit of our members so that we could use more public facilities like camp site. If someone worry about anything like bankrupt, or we make use of the society name to do something illegal, those can choose not to join us as member, right??

Once again, thank you very much for your sharing, I guess you are a frequent visitor in 0601 but just register a new name to share this information to us. In fact, we are open to any opinion and you can at any time join us or to supervise our work. WE ARE 0601 FAMILY


民房

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發表於 06-8-1 16:31 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 社團註冊 important information

Dear Mrsmcdull :

Thanks for your reply. I support the make of the society registration but I think there is a need to let all the potential members know that there is some liability for them to join as members. Just in case of accident, they have the liability to share the risk even they do not participate in that function. I think most of the MA MA dont know there is some potential risk behind. They should make the decision whether they will join or not. Once, they are joining the group, that means they accept the liability.

Besides, I think you can apply for exemption if the group is just for social gathering. Please check with HK Police.












mrsmcdull 寫道:
bingolam

As the chairperson to be of 0601 FAMILY, I guess I have to say thank you for your sharing and care to our members.

Firstly, I do also have a society registered for my kitchen for over 5 years and the police has never asked me for any AGM, minutes or committee election.

For the bank charges, we understand that there exists in most bank and to my concern, it is just around $50 per month, and to be shared among a group of members, it is not a big no.

About the accident, touch wood, if in case it is happened during our gathering, what do you think the injured one could claim to if we have or have not the society registered?? I don't really know what the difference is, or you have something more to share with us??

And perhaps we have to know also that all our committee members are volunteer, we register a society is just for the benefit of our members so that we could use more public facilities like camp site. If someone worry about anything like bankrupt, or we make use of the society name to do something illegal, those can choose not to join us as member, right??

Once again, thank you very much for your sharing, I guess you are a frequent visitor in 0601 but just register a new name to share this information to us. In fact, we are open to any opinion and you can at any time join us or to supervise our work. WE ARE 0601 FAMILY
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大宅

國民生產總值:1315


發表於 06-8-1 20:15 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 社團註冊 important information

0601 嘅媽咪都知道會是以 volunteer 形式運作嘛, 大家應該各自睇住自己的bb 避免有意外, 但如果咁唔好彩touch wood, 都唔應該將責任歸咎於社團囉。
如果真係咁担心, 咁要draft定something like "免責條款"/"liability waiver",給會員簽名????something like -- parents/guardian should be responsible for their own children safety as well as themselves and the committee will not be liable for any injury/accident incurred from any social function...etc.


男爵府

國民生產總值:7403


發表於 06-8-1 21:10 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 社團註冊 important information

Peter太

你好pro呀 唔通你既職業就係保險專業


大宅

國民生產總值:1315


發表於 06-8-1 21:40 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 社團註冊 important information

毛媽,你咪鬼笑我啦, 我只係以前幫美國佬打過工, 佢地最鍾意告人, 但又好怕比人sue,所以亦都整定好多野要人簽咁就唔使揹鍋囉。


民房

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發表於 06-8-2 08:38 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 社團註冊 important information

In the past when I organize the function in the 社團, I also put 免責條款 for the members to sign. However, after consulting the legal advise in the past, the 免責條款 is not accepted by the court when accident happened. A case was happened in the past that 免責條款 was not accepted by the court. Finally, I change the 社團 to a limited company in order to protect all the members (all the people paid the membership fee is classified as members and share the same liability).

Besides, please also note that the risk is not only cover the BB, all the helpers and attendance also can ask for claims if accident happened.

The only way to reduce the risk is "risk transfer", i.e. insurance. However, insurance cannot give fully coverage in case of serious accident happened and the 社團 need to share the remaining compensation.

I suggest chairman to consider the following to protect you and all other members:
1. Review the potential risk of each functions and games.
2. Buy the insurance for each functions.

In future, if the 社團 grows very well, suggest to change to limited company in order to protect all the members. However, this involves a cost for accounting and auditing every years.

By the way, if mrsmdull do not think about the legal liability for your kitchen, please try to do something as soon as possible to protect yourself in case of accident happened.

I hope the experience from me can help you and all the members in the 社團. ------------"lan for the best, perpare for the worst"


男爵府

國民生產總值:7403


發表於 06-8-2 08:55 |顯示全部帖子

Re: 社團註冊 important information

Thank you bingolam

Actually I have already consulted my insurance agent for the risk you mentioned, but as so far the activities we have are all indoor, the potential risk is very low, touch wood, if in case anything happened, it mainly goes to the responsibility of the venue itself.

But it's grateful to learn from your experience and we will arrange insurance coverage for outdoor activities or else we will employ a registerd travel agency to plan our activities ongoing.


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