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民房

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發表於 04-10-26 18:20 |只看該作者

應該怎樣選擇語言?

我丈夫係-個德國人, 我係來自香港. 我地响德國生活, 我同我丈夫係同英文溝通, 他可以講簡單廣東話, 而我亦可以講好好的德文. 現在我地不知道我應該用那一種語言與BB溝通, 我地十分希望BB可以講廣東話, 但英文對未來也十分重要, 有没有父母有同樣問題和經驗?
小河馬 ;-)


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發表於 04-10-26 23:36 |只看該作者

Re: 應該怎樣選擇語言?

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發表於 04-10-26 23:47 |只看該作者

Re: 應該怎樣選擇語言?

我有三個老表細時移民去左荷蘭.表姐當年大概十二歲左右,後來嫁左個荷蘭人,有兩個小朋友.據我所知,歐洲好多中學都會要學生學一種外語.我見佢地(由四十幾歲既表姐夫,到十八歲既表姪女)英文都好好,好過一般香港人好多.所以英文方面,我估你唔需要太擔心.而且你同先生係屋企用英文溝通既話,小朋友更加容易學到.

不過,如果小朋友冇語言環境,(因為你先生既廣東話應該只係好皮毛個種),你想佢學得到講廣東話都幾困難.就好似我細表哥,因為移民時佢得七歲左右,而家四十歲人,要佢講起廣東話上來好卡通,好似細路仔.平日佢同阿哥家姐都用荷文交談,淨係咁岩見到我地呢D香港親戚,至會講到幾句.至於表姐兩個仔更加一句都唔識講.大表哥娶香港人做太太,兩個女都講到流利廣東話,雖然口音好得意,又係有D卡通.


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發表於 04-10-28 01:03 |只看該作者

Re: 應該怎樣選擇語言?

bearmay,

我有很多親戚都住在德國,其中我有個唐妹,她是在德國長大,本身已識講德文及廣東話(但不識寫字),及後嫁了一個越南華僑的丈夫,他只懂德文及越南話,而我唐妹後來生了一個女,給了她媽媽湊(即我呀嬸,她說廣東話),我呀嬸有個媽媽說上海話的.
最初,他們大家各自用自己母語說話,而我唐妹個女兩歲半才懂說話,及後返到kindergarten,兩星期已懂流利德文,現在她已經七歲,主要可以說到流利德文及廣東話,而越南話及上海話她都明白,我另外有個表姐情況也和我唐妹case一樣,所以,我想語言方面都可以順其自言吧! 唔知能否幫到你呢


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發表於 04-10-28 12:06 |只看該作者

Re: 應該怎樣選擇語言?

Hi bearmay,

We are also a mixed couple with me being Chinese and my husband being Spanish. We live in Hong Kong. At first we spoke to her in our mother tongue (i.e. Cantonese + Catalan) and our maid would speak to her in English. We believed that exposure in different languages would do her good in her future development. It was also our pride and ego that we wanted her to learn our mother tongue.

However at the age of 2 years and 2 months, she could say very few words, less than 10 out of her initiative. She understood more words but still behind kids of her age. Communicating with her was also difficult because of her delay in comprehension and speech development. We found her difficult to raise. She simply wouldn't take instructions (probably she didn't understand). We never knew what she wanted as she would only cry and cry.

We had put her in playgroups since she was 9 months so she could spend more time with other children. We knew our girl was active and late in talking but we knew we shouldn't compare her with other kids. We thought that given time and patience she would be better. We tried to look for pre-nursery classes to her to give her even more exposure. But our application was rejected since our girl was like a wild one, didn't understand instructions, didn't speak, just kept on running around playing with different toys.

This was a turning point when we looked for professional help. We couldn't believe when we were told that our girl had comprehension and expression delay of 6-9 months, meaning she reached the level of 18 months only.

There could be many reasons causing the delay and we guessed/concluded that language confusion, insufficient stimulation, active character -> seldom stops to listen, too much TV exposure -> tend to reduce attention span, amongst which language confusion is the largest suspect. We had ruled out hearing impairment after conducting hearing tests. At the advice of almost everybody, i.e. social worker, school principal, paediatrician, speech therapist, we switched our "official language" at home to be English. On top of that we gave her intensive home training to catch up on her cognitive development (back then she didn't even know that an apple is called "apple"). We also took her to speech therapy sessions to get ourselves trained so that we can "train" her efficiently and effectively ourselves. Afterall, we are the ones with whom she spends most time with. Of course we also reduce TV exposure and become firmer on discipline.

Our girl is now 2 years and 9 months. It has only been 6 months but we felt like we have come a long way. Our girl can now express what she wants and the tension at home has eased a lot. She can speak short sentences of 3 to 4 elements. She is still behind kids of her age but we are very proud of her that she can make so much improvement in 6 months, especially that she really started from scratch.

Our choice of switching to one language is not met without different voices. We heard many other parents saying we should stick with 3 languages so that our kid would grow up multi-lingual. We heard whom and whom doing the same and their kids could speak 5 or 6 languages at the age of 5 only. We shouldn't waste such an opportunity of hers. We should have been more patient and waited for her language explosion at a later stage.

Honestly we had our own doubts. We also consulted the paediatrician and speech therapists whether we should follow this theory. The answer was: it all depends. It all depends on the ability of individual child. Normally a toddler can absorb 2 or even 3 languages without showing delays. However, if a toddler cannot for whatever reasons (e.g. slower in comprehension, attention deficit, ...), s/he simply cannot. We didn't want to gamble the precious time of our girl and decided to let go our ego -> mother tongue. We didn't want to find out a year or two later that her language explosion hasn't arrived yet and we had wasted so much of her time. Our plan is now to let her solidify one language first before moving to others.

Our experience does not necessarily apply to you. But it may show you different things that you need to take into considerations. All I wanted to say is it will depend on what you two think and whether your child can take several languages or not.

Thanks for reading such a long passage.


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發表於 04-10-28 12:48 |只看該作者

Re: 應該怎樣選擇語言?

I am a bit confuse.

I have read a book saying that only clever babies can assopt a few languages in the same time. Most of the babies will feel confusion. But, how do we know whether our baby is clever or not. When to try and when to stop?


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發表於 04-10-28 14:36 |只看該作者

Re: 應該怎樣選擇語言?

ywchau,

I am not sure whether "clever" is the appropriate word to use. Let's say different kids are talented in different areas. I believe all children have their potential and strengths.

I wish I have the answer to your questions too. I would say it wouldn't harm to try. Yet it is difficult to draw the line as to when to stop.


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發表於 04-10-28 15:40 |只看該作者

Re: 應該怎樣選擇語言?

好多謝大家回應!
其實我地仲係"製造緊"BB, 但係每當想起語言依個問题就好擔心, 尤其是响德國, 學校好遲先有正規英課, 所以一般人D英文都唔好. 依度有中文學校, 但只教普通話. 我同丈夫一齊試過上他們的成人班, 老師非常好, 但係我丈夫慢慢把廣東話同普通話撈亂晒! 他本身D廣東話幾好, 响HKYMCA 讀到Lever II 加上在香港工作了兩年, 他同我父母對話都OK. 但上完普通話班, 就開始講得好攪笑. 我地好怕BB都會甘.... 我現在照顧一對小兄弟, 5 歲和 2歲半. 爸爸是愛爾蘭人, 媽媽是德國人, 大哥可以講雙語但係英文常常用了德文文法, 而弟弟完全唔想講英文同撈亂哂D生字.... 我睇書講BB可以分辨6種語言... 但要由6個唔同既人... 所以都唔知點.... :-|
小河馬 ;-)


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發表於 04-10-28 21:42 |只看該作者

Re: 應該怎樣選擇語言?

Dear Justjust,

I think the meaning of "clever" for the author is only about language, not all areas.

I have a baby 9 months old. Her sister studies in international school and speaks english with the maid. The baby, most of the time listening english. At first, I spoke english to her to avoid her confusion. Now I use back to cantonese as I afraid it cannot understand what the teacher say when it goes to kindergarten. Do you think I should do so?


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發表於 04-10-28 21:44 |只看該作者

Re: 應該怎樣選擇語言?

妳是香港人,為什麼可以說流利的德文,是何時開始學的?


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發表於 04-10-28 22:00 |只看該作者

Re: 應該怎樣選擇語言?

是在德國學的, 我地由香港搬回德國大約三年了. 初初來到時,我每天都到語言學校上德文密集班. 加上德國不用英文的, 所以很快就學會, 為生活一定要吧! :cry:
小河馬 ;-)


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發表於 04-10-29 15:36 |只看該作者

Re: 應該怎樣選擇語言?

Hi yyyy,

So you have 2 girls, 1 is a 9 mth old baby and the goes to int'l KG?

The baby listens to English most of the time. How about the sister? You also speak to her in English most of the time?

If it is an int'l KG, why would you afraid that your child wouldn't understand the teachers' Cantonese?

Are you worried whether to talk to your elder daughter bilingually, or to talk to your baby bilingually?

A lot of kids in HK learn in a bilingual environment. If your family member can provide good stimulation, there is no reason why you shouldn't do so, unless your child(ren) cannot handle.


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發表於 04-10-29 18:08 |只看該作者

Re: 應該怎樣選擇語言?

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發表於 04-10-30 10:08 |只看該作者

Re: 應該怎樣選擇語言?

I have a baby 9 months old but her sister is in primary already.

I am not worry about the elder one as she studied inInt'l school from KG, before KG, we spoke Cantonese to her as she was taken care by her Grandma. Therefore, she can speak fluent cantonese, english and manderin now.

For the younger one, I am worry her confusion to learn both cantonese and english at the same time. I can see the trend that she speak slower than her sister (her sister spoke from 7.5 months old) or I should say she doesn't speak at this stage.

Why I change back to Cantonese? I want to speed up her speaking skill. Other than her sister and the maid, she will listen Cantonese as we are living in Hong Kong. Even thought she may study in Int'l KG, she still needs to have interviewed and studied in local KG before 4 years old. If she cannot understand what the interviewer's question, how can she get a seat into the school?

Of course, I really want she can learn and speak english at the very beginning stage. That's why I am struggled.


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發表於 04-11-3 12:49 |只看該作者

Re: 應該怎樣選擇語言?

ywchau,

I seldom tell the others to be patient and always urge them to pay attention to the development of their children. But for you, I think you really need to be more patient!

I would say it's not your younger daughter who is slower. It's only your elder daughter who is more advanced than kids of comparable age. I am no expert but I would say it is perfectly normal for a 9-mth old baby to say just one or two words (without imaginagion) and baby gibberish most of the time.

It is indeed too early for you to worry language confusion. You know frequent change of language used may also impede the child's language development. You may ask your paediatrician for a children development chart to learn about all the milestones. I think signs of speech delay won't show/ can't be confirmed until 18 mths or even later. You can double check on this and worry about language confusion later. Whether to prepare for int'l KG or local KG, you still have quite some time to observe the development of your younger daughter before firming your mind.

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