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for 40min feeding, doesn't she feel hurt at all?
and as per the doctor's order. she should reduce it. Peds said the right thing, because she is overfeeding her child.
If the infant has at least 1 bowel movement and 6 wet diapers, it is not necessary to top up with formula, as the infant is over 1 month.

原文章由 elmolly 於 08-9-28 11:47 AM 發表
Hi Nillie,

just checking for my friend. her baby is now 1 month old, she used to skin to skin her baby around 40 mins for each feeding, then top up with formula if her girl is still not full yet. how ...

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原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-9-29 04:03 發表
for 40min feeding, doesn't she feel hurt at all?
and as per the doctor's order. she should reduce it. Peds said the right thing, because she is overfeeding her child.
If the infant has at least 1 bowe ...

her baby keeps crying if only skin to skin for 20 mins, and not stop until they give her formula, so my friend thinks her baby is not full yet...

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pacifier may be the solution if this infant needs something to suck on.. as over feeding will cause a lot of problem, she needs to face the consequence.
if she is not dehydrated, she does not need to be topped up with formula.
anyway, she is the mother of the baby, she can do whatever she wants. right?
We are just health care professional. we will not force parents to do what they don't feel comfortable to.
I would only say, it is not necessary.

原文章由 elmolly 於 08-9-28 10:33 PM 發表

her baby keeps crying if only skin to skin for 20 mins, and not stop until they give her formula, so my friend thinks her baby is not full yet...

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elmolly,

Long time no see! How's Andrea? She should be a big girl now, right?

Amanda was also considered being overfed at the first 1-2 months. The doctor told me to feed her less and burp her more often during feeding as she may not feel herself full if she keeps eating vigorously. Amanda also vomitted several times a day: she ate, cried, swallowed too much gas then vomitted. Once she threw up, she felt much better, sometimes she fell sleep right the way. So, I was 100% sure that she did not need that much milk. Actualy, after she turned 2 months old, she started to eat very little and the pedi said that she was regulating her own eating pattern. Therefore, my supply was way much more than demand. Now, she's still a light eater of milk and solid food but crazy about veggies and fruit. Even though sometimes I think that she's light (19lbs in 13 months old) but she's in 15-50% of weight which is okay.

Baby cries for a lot of reasons. For your friend's baby, maybe she has gas. Maybe you can suggest your friend to try burping her more often, says every 10 minutes of feeding. Let her rest on her shoulder for 10-15 mintes before continuing feeding. Hope that help.

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發表於 08-10-2 02:10 |只看該作者

rose-mag,

hihi, really long time no see la, how's Amanda too? do you still bf her? I st planned to stop pumping at 18 months (which was last Tue), but just happened the formula incident here, although Andrea's formula passed the test, just don't feel comfortable to rely all on formula and it's getting harder to buy formula here... yes, Andrea is a big girl now, take a look at her blog when you have time la

http://hk.myblog.yahoo.com/emily-andrea

I'll tell my friend about it, in fact, she's still trying to get feel on demand of her baby, she's very headache now. she called me today and asked for a new question, her baby now treats her as 人肉奶咀, she's crying for it when she's sleepy, and even cries for it before or after she has bottle on formula. but when I asked my friend if her baby is really drinking or just sucking, she doesn't know about it, so don't know how to help... any idea?

Nillie,

my friend wants to correct her problems too, but her knowlege is not strong enough so needs help. I just found out she skin to skin her baby 5 mins for each side and just rotating this pattern, I guess this is one of the reason that her baby doesn't feel full. any suggestion on her 人肉奶咀 problem? I reviewed the same questions I asked you before, but Andrea was 3 months old at that time, her baby is younger, so I don't know if the same way applies. I asked her to ask you and read this topic herself ga la, but guess she's still very busy with her one month old.

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發表於 08-10-9 01:22 |只看該作者

Hi elmolly,

Amanda grows up a lot too. When I see her now, she looks longer and bigger, even though she's still quite skinny. I'm still bf her but supplement with whole milk. Firstly, I want to gradually wean her from breastmilk and she seems to be able to distinguish the difference of breastmilk and whole milk which she usually drinks less. Secondly, she still want bf to put herself to sleep especially at night time. Now, she usually wakes up one time at night asking for bf. I have tried to give her some whole milk at night before the last bf, hoping that she can feel full and sleeps longer. It does not work every time. Sometimes, she wakes up because of a heavy diaper. After changing diaper, she asks for bf. I think that she uses me as a soothing tool for her to sleep. I know that I should cut that habit but she can cry non-stop and she may wake up Spencer. so, most of the times, I would surrender and bf her.

I aslo plan to stop bf when Amanda turns 18 months old. These days, she eats more solid food and drink whole milk and I feel that she grows taller. Since she still has eczema, I want to try to bf a little longer. But, these days, I really feel tired as I can only sleep max. 6 hours and no longer than 4 hours each time. I can fall sleep easily even though when I'm bf Amanda.

For your friend, it is hard when the baby is just 1 or 2 months old. Baby needs a lot of soothing and mommy's nipples seems to be one of the best tools. If her baby really drinking and stop after more than 15 minutes each side, then the baby maybe real hungry. If it's only a few minute sucking, it is possibly that the baby just want some soothing. Would your fd consider using pacificer?

Also, if your fd should nurse her baby at least 15 minutes each side so that the baby is able to drink enough hindmilk. Since foremilk is mostly water, the baby may not taking enough fat to fill her stomach if she just skin to skin 5 minutes each side. You can ask your friend to feed the first side (says right breast) for 15 minutes at least, then shift to another side (left breast) until the baby is full. Start from the left breast in the next feeding for 15 minutes then the right breast. See if it can help. This is the way I use to feed my 2 kids.

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Elmolly,
as your friend only nurse 5 mins each side, therefore the infant cried so mad.. but you did told me the baby has 40min skin to skin each time?? did I get the wrong message?
extand the time flame to 15 mins on 1 side. that will help the infant to such better.
as rose-mag mention, 5 min of sucking, that infant only got the water base only, therefore the infant cried so bad.
we feel sorry for that.
ask your friend to come, so we can discuss it with her.

原文章由 rose-mag 於 08-10-8 12:22 PM 發表
Hi elmolly,

Amanda grows up a lot too. When I see her now, she looks longer and bigger, even though she's still quite skinny. I'm still bf her but supplement with whole milk. Firstly, I want to gr ...

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原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-10-9 04:43 發表
Elmolly,
as your friend only nurse 5 mins each side, therefore the infant cried so mad.. but you did told me the baby has 40min skin to skin each time?? did I get the wrong message? extand the time fl ...

Nillie,
I guess what elmolly mean is that the baby sucks on each side 5 minutes and her friend would turn to another side; and the whole feeding lasts for 40 minutes. Says 5 min on Left, then 5 min on Right, back to Left for 5 min, then shift to Right on another 5 min...and so. Elmolly, correct me if I'm wrong.
I think that it would be too little time for the baby to suck on one side before turn to another one. Possibly, it cannot fill her up and she gets tired. Not sure...

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Help!!! Supply is going down. My son refused skin to skin. He will only take bottles, but wants only breastmilk. I am pumping at work, but supply is going down. Any good suggestions?

Skin to skin time is now a battle time!! We tried... but I was the one who gave in...

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原文章由 cutenathan 於 08-10-17 04:41 發表
Help!!! Supply is going down. My son refused skin to skin. He will only take bottles, but wants only breastmilk. I am pumping at work, but

cutenathan,

How old is your son? When he started drinking from a bottle? Did you bottle-feed during daytime and breast-feed before and after the working hours at the same time after you go back to work? Have you tried different breastfeeding poses?

Baby would get lazy because drinking from bottle is easier. If you want to insist, you should just breastfeed him when you are around. If he refuses, just let him starved until later, then offer the breasts. But, I know that it's hard.

Give some more details and see if we can find out more ideas to suggest some solutions.

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發表於 08-10-24 04:29 |只看該作者

差唔多生咗3個星期都上唔到奶，我係咪冇希望，要放棄？

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發表於 08-10-24 10:09 |只看該作者

Did you BF every 2 hours even at bed time?
Did your infant latch on correctly?
How much fluid intake do you have per day?
Tell us how you bf your infant? you sure feed the infant with formula. How is the pattern?

原文章由紅紅於 08-10-23 03:29 PM 發表
差唔多生咗3個星期都上唔到奶，我係咪冇希望，要放棄？mouth:

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發表於 08-10-25 00:28 |只看該作者

The first few days at the hospital, I BF every 2-3 hours, she latched on fine but I did have very sore nipples and peeled off skin. However, starting from the end of the second day, my baby got very frasturated everytime when I tried to feed her, maybe because she was very hungry, and it became very difficult for her to latch on, as she would not keep her head still at all. The nurse suggested me to give her formula suppliment after each BF. During the first week, I continue to BF her first and the gave her suppliment.

However, when we returned to see the doctor a few days after being discharged from the hospital, the doctor said she has lost too much weight and ordered me to give her 2oz formula every 2 hours and use a breast pump to pump my milk out regularly instead. There is hardly any milk that get collected after each pump, add up to just 1oz after 3-4 pumps.

I make sure I drink at least 8 glasses of water if not more. But on the first 10days or so, I might have forgotten to eat regularly as I was so tired to remember eating. I wonder if that had affect my milk production. Now I make sure I eat regularly, the production has improved only very slightly.

I am still trying but I was just wondering, after 3 weeks, is there still a chance for my milk production to improve or will it be to late? If there is a chance I will keep trying. But would it be no point now since so much time has passed?

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-10-24 10:09 發表
Did you BF every 2 hours even at bed time?
Did your infant latch on correctly?
How much fluid intake do you have per day?
Tell us how you bf your infant? you sure feed the infant with formula. How is ...

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My son is 5 months now. For the first week I tried to breastfeed him after work and when I am around. However, starting at 2 weeks of returning to work, he began to refuse and was fussier everyday. Plus, I have a the older one around that get on my nerves. Aiya!! Now, I am pumping constantly to help maintain my supply. Any good suggestions?

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原文章由 cutenathan 於 08-10-26 03:59 發表
My son is 5 months now. For the first week I tried to breastfeed him after work and when I am around. However, starting at 2 weeks of returning to work, he began to refuse and was fussier everyday. ...

cutenathan,

Have you talked to the caregiver who takes care of your little one on how is he doing in daytime when you're working? Says, what's the feeding schedule? Can your baby finishes a bottle at one time? How long he needs to finish the bottle? How much milk the caregiver feeds each time? How she warms up the milk and what kind of teats she's using? When and how long he sleeps at daytime? Any change of environments? How's his poo and pee pattern?

Try to find out if there's any hint on his fussiness. Sometimes, if baby does not sleep enough or does not get used to the changes of environment, he may become fussy. Of course, one possibility is that he gets used to using the bottle which does not require active sucking as compared to breastfeeding. If it's the reason, try different nipples and bottles which are more close to a human breast - soft and bigger (usually wide-neck bottle works) so that baby can adjust to breastfeeding easier.

I understand how hard it will be to breastfeeding a younger one when there's an older one around. My 2 babies are only 17 months apart. Even nowadays, my older son will ask for me breastfeeding him sometimes because he wants to have exclusive time with me and to draw my total attention. Of course, I explain to him that he does not need mommy's milk any more as he's a big boy now. And, I will let my hubby to watch my younger daughter and play with my son some time to give him "equal" share of attention. I give him a bath and play with him a bit in the bath tub everyday plus try to spend some time with him after dinner.

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原文章由紅紅於 08-10-25 00:28 發表
The first few days at the hospital, I BF every 2-3 hours, she latched on fine but I did have very sore nipples and peeled off skin.

食同瞓對哺乳非常重要，你如果食得唔夠，根本冇嘢可以餵俾ＢＢ，我會嘅兩次feedings之間都食嘢，肚餓顧之然要食，唔太肚餓都應該要食少少或者飲湯水補充，少食多餐都可以令媽咪有充足體力。睡眠時間都好重要，由於每兩三個小時要餵一次，另外加上換片沖涼等等，媽咪要爭取時間休息，所以ＢＢ瞓你都應該瞓，否則太累係會影響奶量。我頭果兩個月只會食瞓同餵ＢＢ，大部份家務都由我hubby同我媽做，ＢＢ食完我又會交俾９９同我媽或者老公同ＢＢ掃風，我自己走去瞓，因為夜晚餵奶佢地冇法幫，所以朝早我會爭取時間瞓多Ｄ。

我最初都俾ＢＢ食損，我搽羊脂膏同人奶，等乾之後先再put on bras，餵時太痛，我用咗一陣nipple shield，等好番先唔用，雖然都係痛，但冇唔用咁痛。

３個星期都未係好耐，我之前同另一個媽咪喺母乳餵哺度傾計，佢初初都唔夠奶，後來都可以全人奶，而家佢個仔都成歲大啦，只係要耐性同搵到啱嘅方法。我估你係stimulus不足，因為初初補開奶粉，ＢＢ依賴你之後俾奶樽，埋身食冇盡力，如果你冇俾佢埋身每邊２０分鐘，我估你好難剌激上奶，試上完全唔補奶粉，只係埋身，寧願餵密Ｄ，只要等到身體適應要造奶嘅份量，ＢＢ就會食得飽。你有冇煲Ｄ上奶湯水？例如青木瓜猪手、木瓜花生魚等？

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發表於 08-10-28 12:51 |只看該作者

回覆 #2 rose-mag 的文章

I think his fussiness is mainly due to the fact that he doesn't want skin to skin and wants bottles only. Before I go back to work, I bring him to his grandmother everyday so he can get used to her. I am sure he loves grandma. I have the wide neck Avent bottles. I am going to rest more and eat more to see that helps to increase supply.

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原文章由 cutenathan 於 08-10-28 12:51 發表
I think his fussiness is mainly due to the fact that he doesn't want skin to skin and wants bottles only. Before I go back to work, I bring him to his grandmother everyday so he can get used to her. ...

cutenathan,

OK, possibly your son gets used to be bottle-fed which needs less active sucking and energy. If he takes his milk and finishes it, it's not bad. Well, if you still want to carry on breastfeeding, you can still let him skin to skin when you're around and supplement with pump-out milk when he gets fussy. It depends on how much you want him to take both skin to skin and bottle. Otherwise, you can work on setting up a pumping schedule. There's nothing wrong for being a pumping mom, just a bit more works and a bit more difficult to maintain milk production.

You have to eat more, drink more and rest more. Don't worry, before your baby starts solid food, bf mom can still increase milk production. Have you tried those soups which help booster milk production? Remember to watch out the food that would reduce milk production too.

Take it easy. Baby is so smart and he will choose whatever he likes and good to him. We, as moms, just try to match up and help. Enjoy the lovely moments now.

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I'm facing another breastfeeding problem - how to wean my daughter from skin to skin. She's now 16 months old and very very attached to me, especially at night time. When she's tired, upset and hungry, she wants me to breastfeed her. Honestly speaking, I really want to wean her naturally but she's not gaining too much weight recently. After she's been sick for a few weeks, she's now only 19lb5oz. Indeed, she grows taller; some of the pants do not fit her any more as well as her shoes. However, she's very picky on food. Most of the time, she would just eat a few bites then says no.

Her developments, on the other hand, are quite fast. She can speak a lot, response to what we ask her, feed herself with a spoon or a fork, hold a cup with straw. These days, she's learning to walk up the stairscases. She'll be very happy if we bring her out. However, once I leave home (just maybe go out to pick up mail), she will cry out loud. Every time I say no when she asks for milk, she will instant open her mouth wide and cry. Since she was sick for the past 2, 3 weeks, I fed her anytime she want and let her sleep with me after feeding in the early morning.

I think that it's even harder to wean her now. When I weaned Spencer from skin to skin, it took only a few days as he was used to both skin to skin and bottle-fed. Amanda loves skin to skin more than bottle-fed from the beginning. These days, she's teething (she has 10 teeth already) very badly. I notice that she may have her lower first molars very soon. Sometimes, after breastfeeding, I can see 2 front teeth marks on my nipples.

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