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發表於 11-4-4 11:53 |只看該作者
ope:
From what I know, they 洗手 after using hands to clean their butt.

What I know is, in singapore, you see a lot of malay family has a extra 水喉 next to the 馬桶.
And they use only 左手解决, that is why you see that they use 右手吃飯, in a lot of muslim country they use 手抓饭 to eat.

that is the same for middle east, South east asia.

I am not sure of 菲律賓, but if they are muslim from 菲律賓, i guess they do the same as
印, not sure about that.

In singapore or South east asia, since they have an extra 水喉 for that use, maybe it is cleaner. But in Hong Kong, the toilets are not design to have the extra 水喉, I suggest if you cannot accept that, you should not hire 印印, cos it is quite hard for them to change the habit.
Otherwise, you should get some 殺菌洗手液 to make sure things are clean.


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發表於 11-4-4 12:00 |只看該作者
回覆 gemiling 的帖子

hi gemiling,

謝謝你的資料.

唉.... 就是會洗手, 都始終有直接接觸到糞便... 我去過singapore, 都見過係有一個小水喉係廁所邊, 但現家姐姐係用我們沖涼用的花晒去洗 !!! 所以我才發現廁所板又濕, 同埋聽到花晒聲, 最後先係沖廁聲.

我就是要放她走, 都還有一段時間會用她, 我會叫她用消毒洗手液, 同埋帶手套煮飯 ..... 真係無辦法

謝謝你 !


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發表於 11-4-4 12:04 |只看該作者
by the way, I found this online
據世界衛生組織(WHO)的調查後顯示:印尼,中東人沒有患有或患過痔瘡。究其原因,歷史以來,在印尼和中東人家中,洗手間裡根本沒有手紙,而是在馬桶旁邊放有水盆,便後用左手將肛門清洗乾淨,這也是他們吃飯,與人握手從不用左手的原因。
這個結果告訴我們一個事實- “洗比擦“更有利於健康。

also, actually it is true that they think we are the 'dirty' ones when it comes to cleaning our butt, as we don't use water, we just use paper to wipe.


I dont think i can do that myself even if they say it is better

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szetoszeto  其實依樣嘢家庭醫生都有同我講過!! 的確係個patpat干淨! 但手就要佢事後多加清潔喇!  發表於 11-4-6 14:57
ope  原來洗比擦更干淨 ? 真係意想不到....  發表於 11-4-4 12:55


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發表於 11-4-4 12:32 |只看該作者
其實唔好講用唔用廁紙問題先, 就算佢改到用廁紙, 但佢其他野都頗差喎! 索性換左佢把喇!

同埋, 你有冇諗過如果便便係指甲內呢個問題呢? 係好難清乾凈架, 因為我囡成日用蠟筆油顏色, d色係指甲入面我要幫佢洗好耐先洗返出黎, 有時仲要過幾日先甩呀! 以工人做野咁求其既性格, 佢一定唔會認真去清洗手部, 一諗起就係好難接受.

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ope  若佢有用廁紙, 我頂多幾個月都仲勉強得, 但若連廁紙都唔用, 真係好難受  發表於 11-4-4 12:54


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發表於 11-4-4 13:52 |只看該作者
早炒早著, Ope....your baby's health is more important. Your maid doesn't seem that she has conscience....


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發表於 11-4-4 14:10 |只看該作者
gemiling 發表於 11-4-4 12:04
by the way, I found this online
據世界衛生組織(WHO)的調查後顯示:印尼,中東人沒有患有或患過痔瘡。 ...

1.我接受唔到用手指去捽肛門同挖屎咯!

2.大家有冇試過唔小心,隻手楷到bb屎呢,隻手洗極都臭架。更何況印屎?!我就唔知d印点様洗,去確保無臭喇!!


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發表於 11-4-4 15:08 |只看該作者
ope 原來洗比擦更干淨 ? 真係意想不到.... 發表於 2 小時前


I think can understand that la. I mean
Washing is better than just cleaning with dry paper... just like
身水身汗 沖涼 is better than 用毛巾抹 ... i guess

But it is 干淨D for her 個人衛生, not for you.


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發表於 11-4-4 17:10 |只看該作者
gemiling 發表於 11-4-4 15:08
I think can understand that la. I mean
Washing is better than just cleaning with dry paper... jus ...

You mean the ass is clean. But their hands was not property clean. In a way, who is clean who is dirty? You're speaking of Muslim's habbit, but Muslim also steel things need to chop off their hand, and hunting man need to be hanged, or beaten. Still many yan steel and hunting man. Don't use Muslim's name to cover their poor things.


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發表於 11-4-4 17:16 |只看該作者
唔睇唔知,而家睇咗形住形住,好恐怖呀!咁唔文明嘅!


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31#
發表於 11-4-4 17:17 |只看該作者
Pls fire her immediately.
Anything can accept the maid and teach her again again.
But if she treat your BB not good (I think she is worse) This is CRITICAL. Must fire.


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發表於 11-4-4 17:23 |只看該作者
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HUH????
lily-of-valleyif you read my post earlier carefully, you can see I said "干淨D for her 個人衛生, not for you (as in 樓主).

I REALLY DONT understand what do you mean by I am covering things in the name of muslim????

I am just explaining their practice cos I know about it!!!!



And the research is not done by me!! It is by WHO世衛!


Yes they have such law as when they steal they have to chop off the hand, and if they seduce other they have to be hang. But do you think that is really right to do that (I am not saying stealing and seducing is right. Don't get me wrong)


This is the second time you are saying I am trying to cover for them, BUT in fact, I AM NOT! If you read other of my post, I also suggest that if 樓主can't take it, she should not hire her.

and in other posts, especially those involving bad attitude to kids, I have said they should be FIRED!!

I am just saying they are also human, maybe they have different 生活習慣 from us, but that doesn't mean they are all bad..

As for those who steal and cheat, of cos they are bad. but I must say it doesn't mean chinese doesn't have these kind of people, I am sorry if your helper is bad. But it doesn't mean ALL 印印 or bun bun are bad.




WHY DO YOU ALWAYS SAY I M COVERING FOR THEM?


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發表於 11-4-4 17:45 |只看該作者
I replied on the old thread already. I agree bun and yan have good, but bad ones more.

We pay money to hire helpers, we should not suffer their poor service. Badly treat kids, steel, lazy, slow, stupid, crzay.

We here to 呻緊氣, find out what to do, but you just simply talk this was their habbit, different from us, you just said Chinese also had bad people.

We are talking about suffering poor bad maids, and you are selling how good your maid was, where to find your maid etc, selling you treat them good and they will threat you good. We were all mistreat them so we need to suffer back.

You said the thing exactly the agent here which already suspend the A/C.


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發表於 11-4-4 18:02 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 gemiling 於 11-4-5 10:45 編輯

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I agree we all need to 呻氣, but if you read carefully, I have never sold any agency or anything at all, and if you are saying how I got my helper, I am just sharing with the people who are interested. And if you ask them (those who pm-ed me) I replied them and also talked to them on what I did when I choose my helper.

If you say I am just trying to sell something, you can go get 版主 to check on me!!!


I agree that some helpers are really bad .. I don't deny that!

But this is really just a different of living habit (about the washing), and it is not just for 印
人. It is for most of the muslim who are believing in this religion!


"Yes we are all here to find out what to do.." <-- that's why i suggest 樓主 to get some 殺菌洗手液 to make sure things are clean OR don't hire

I am sharing about my story of my helper cos I really find her being good. and i see that I am not the only one doing that.

"We were all mistreat them so we need to suffer back." <-- I didn't say anything about you mistreat your helper that's why you deserve to suffer!


版主, please correct me if I am wrong, 論盡家傭 means discussion on
家傭, bad or good rite? It doesn't mean just bad things right? If this place is just about bad things, then I will stop discussing the good things.



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發表於 11-4-4 18:07 |只看該作者
gemiling 發表於 11-4-4 18:02
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I agree we all need to 呻氣, but if you read carefully, I have never sol ...

I agree you got a good helper, but you use your good helper to fit on those worst ones, unfair to boss.

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gemiling  I didn't fit into other cases. Please read my post carefully before you put that on me.  發表於 11-4-4 18:11


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發表於 11-4-4 21:52 |只看該作者
佢向屋企就話有花灑洗姐﹐出街甘佢點抹呀? 先用手﹐然後用廁紙沫手﹐出去再用水洗手? 真係好唔明﹐如果下下要用花灑洗﹐甘佢未要除晒褲黎去廁所? 我得閒都問下我個印印先!


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發表於 11-4-5 02:16 |只看該作者
樓主只不過是引WHO的調查分享給大家知悉確實有此類行為存在,實在不應以此認為某人是agent等猜測.這樣對樓主並不公平.
而事實上在這版區交流的僱主,比好多agent更專業呢.


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發表於 11-4-5 06:54 |只看該作者
though the culture / custom should be mutually respected but if it's really violating from our customer, it is hardly to be accepted

it's always doubt that why the agents / so-called training schools do not teach the potential maids adapt our customers

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gemiling  or maybe cos it is related to religion so they do not want to violate that issue? I don't know. and also, when I was in sg, heard that most 印 actually go to Malaysia, so that won't be a problem  發表於 11-4-5 10:44
gemiling  i think that is the problem about the so-call training.
I know that some of the 印 helpers are not doing that. But some are still doing that, maybe 'old habit dies hard'  發表於 11-4-5 10:42


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發表於 11-4-5 12:33 |只看該作者
ope 發表於 11-4-3 00:04
姐姐來了不夠一個月, 開始現形了 :

1. 洗碗開始好求其, d 碗好油

在家吃飯時,由僱主分餸給工人.可以安排工人在廚房吃飯.

在外跟朋友吃飯時,亦可先付錢給工人自己去吃飯後,或要求工人在家吃飯後,才去酒樓照顧少主.

點解要咁被動呢?你先係老闆.由你安排嘛!

工人表現好的話,當然可以似一家人咁相處啦.佢咁既表現,唔值得對佢咁好.

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