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聖經新約中的希伯來書 十三:4提到 " 婚 姻 , 人 人 都 当 尊 重 , 床 也 不 可 污 秽 。 因 为 苟 合 行 淫 的 人 神 必 要 审 判" ,所以基督徒係唔應該有婚前性行為!
事情發生了,當事人能向神交帳就好了.
畢竟她是作了不好的見證,但誰又知曉神的作為呢!神能夠利用一切去彰顯祂的神聖!


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發表於 12-6-5 21:52 |只看該作者
回覆 美亞 的帖子

我覺得朱小姐没有婚前性行為而有身孕!


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發表於 12-5-17 12:53 |只看該作者
結婚唔係簽張紙,佢地知道自己認定對方咪得lol~
不過點解佢反對婚前性行為既言論就奇怪d, 但係旁人唔應該支支左左, 呢件係人地既開心事~
佢地私下向對方認定左無必要同人交代,家陣結婚只係因應社會在法律方面而設計,
以前d人擺左酒,相方家人認同就係結左婚啦,耶穌時代既人唔會去搵律師簽紙掛~


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發表於 12-5-16 16:03 |只看該作者
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發表於 12-5-14 09:07 |只看該作者
IvyCP 發表於 12-5-13 12:38
如果你哋正義、包容依家你個屎忽口就愛嚟祈禱啦!唔係插同你唔同意見嘅屎忽口啦!物你哋「愛的真諦 ...

我講明我是屎忽口,你還要弄一個伸舌頭的icon,真拿你沒辦法........


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發表於 12-5-13 17:24 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 gpb 於 12-5-14 02:32 編輯
858D 發表於 12-5-13 15:14
、、、、、、 《=== 將嘔左既兜頭淋落來基督徒的頭上啦。我地受得嫁,因為我地知道實情唔系我地在 ...

唔好勞氣,認真你就輸鳥
而且好小兒科0者,當年我未信之前講得仲過份。當年我熟讀聖經(當然唔係因為咩好動機),但係仲要羞辱到班基督徒吐血九升,激到死去活來

今時今日又點呢?咪又係乖乖地係度學做人地眼中嘅傻佬!我永遠記得自己個心同把口曾經有幾硬,所以成日同弟兄姊妹講,當日我做過係基督徒身上嘅(亦即係做係主身上嘅),我預左要受返哂架喇!但這些是我的冠冕,是主所賜的,I am so proud of it!

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858D   感謝神的恩,有你這位住在主裡的弟兄。  發表於 12-5-14 08:33


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發表於 12-5-13 17:03 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 gpb 於 12-5-13 17:04 編輯
IvyCP 發表於 12-5-13 12:40
佢哋入教要奉獻架,1/10啊,好搵過黃大仙

1/10奉獻係聖經原則,執唔執行你自己決定,絕大部分教會都唔會規定你奉獻幾多。都係0個句,你個神係點我唔知,我個神就乜都有,從未強求過仔女俾家用佢,唔係心甘情願俾佢嘅,佢一D唔希罕。


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發表於 12-5-13 15:36 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 858D 於 12-5-13 15:44 編輯

858D: To Christian Fellows who hold the worldly definition of “聖潔”、 “偽善” , here is a response from my friend KNT:

Hypocrites and holiness

I think you have a strange idea of these two concepts.

A person is not a hypocrite if they merely repeat what God has said.

They are a hypocrite if they pretend to be someone they are not.

If God says they are righteous, then no one should be calling them hypocrites for trying to be righteous or teaching righteous living to others.

I don't know of many Christians who pretend to be perfect or claim that they are. But some might seem to think they are better than others because of their own goodness. That is not right, but we are human too and don't claim to be perfect.

Would a teacher of math be a hypocrite if they were to incorrectly calculate some math problem? No, just proves that they are human. Just because they are not perfect does not mean they do not know what they are teaching nor does it mean they are not trying. So, if they are trying, then they are sincere and if they are sincere how can they be the hypocrite?

The only real differences between a true Christian and a non-Christian is that the Christian is a sinner who is saved and they do not seek to sin. The non-Christian is a sinner who is not saved because they seek to please themselves rather than God. If anyone sought God they would find Him for He is not far away.

However, I can see where a person who accuses Christians of hypocricy is a real hypocrite. Because how can they judge a person who is trying to do what is right and then do whatever they want to do regardless of what God says is right?
This is where you do not understand the bible definition of "holy". It does not mean perfect. Holy means "set apart".
Who sets the Christian apart?
God does.
How?
By sending His Son to die in our place. That is what makes a Christian holy or not, not our goodness, but the greatness of Christ's gift. So no one can boast before God. But if you do not acknowledge Christ as Lord of your life then you will die in your sins.
So what you are really doing by putting down Christians is putting down Christ's sacrifice and saying it is not good enough to make His believer holy and righteous.

KNT



Love is when the other person’s happiness is more important than your own  ~ H. Jackson Brown


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發表於 12-5-13 15:14 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 858D 於 12-5-13 15:58 編輯
IvyCP 發表於 12-5-13 04:44
咁埋驗正咗基督徒輸打贏要茄教義囉!將個道德標準set得高一高,以為自己好聖潔!等犯咗界時就高呼包容、原諒、愛!偽善!

、、、、、、 《=== 將嘔左既兜頭淋落來基督徒的頭上啦。我地受得嫁,因為我地知道實情唔系我地在受,而是我們所親愛的 主耶穌基督 在受這侮辱呢。

致閣下(先生或女士)IvyCP:
你好!

唔好意思,我暫時未明白閣下 講乜?不過我毫無興趣去明白閣下 用這些詞彙 (“聖潔”、“犯咗界”、“包容”、“原諒”、“愛”、“偽善”)時所持的屬世 定義是什麼。因為從我個人的經歷中,我認識到:不信基督之人無論怎麼解釋他們對這些詞彙所持的定義 都是我不能聽得懂的方言。請恕我在這方面的無能。

我個個字都識讀,但好似你如此湊在一起寫就、、、doesn't make sense to me.

我順從聖靈的帶領來讀聖經,我就能明白我的神 對 聖潔、犯咗界、包容、原諒、愛、偽善 等詞彙的定義。我也能憑神的話語 聖經 來幫我辯明神所定的 是、非、正、邪、善、惡。

既然我們的道不同,就無需刻意相為謀。 即使如此,我也願我們能和平交談!若我有言得罪閣下的,望你能見諒和認同這般=〉 你我 是說著不同的方言:我在上發的貼所說的是基督徒語言(方言),閣下說的是非基督徒語言(方言)。因此事實,我們實在難以溝通。例如:若我說 “聖潔” 、“偽善”時,我所持的定義必與閣下所持的定義有很大的差異。所以若我們溝通不到,不是你我的錯,而是文化、背景、方言有分別而已。



Love is when the other person’s happiness is more important than your own  ~ H. Jackson Brown


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發表於 12-5-13 12:40 |只看該作者

引用:Quote:IvyCP+發表於+12-5-13+04:44+咁埋驗

原帖由 gpb 於 12-05-13 發表
...咦...你其實係講緊基督教定黃大仙呢?
基督教從來無認為自己好聖潔,一向都認為自己無個好人,同你冇乜 ...
佢哋入教要奉獻架,1/10啊,好搵過黃大仙




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發表於 12-5-13 09:12 |只看該作者
IvyCP 發表於 12-5-13 04:44
咁埋驗正咗基督徒輸打贏要茄教義囉!將個道德標準set得高一高,以為自己好聖潔!等犯咗界時就高呼包容、原 ...
...咦...你其實係講緊基督教定黃大仙呢?
基督教從來無認為自己好聖潔,一向都認為自己無個好人,同你冇乜唔同...
另一方面,犯左錯時從來無話冇責罰唔駛改,更加唔係話捐下錢燒返隻豬就攪得掂...
其實你講緊咩教架?


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發表於 12-5-13 06:42 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 anntx3 於 12-5-13 06:46 編輯

回覆 IvyCP 的帖子

也驗正我們的正義!基督徒原諒人就插佢偽善!吾原諒人就插佢無愛心!Yeah!

誰能逃出我們這屎忽口,ha ha

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858D  好一個代入反基督之人的思維方式。這理我既想不通。也沒有心思去理解。  發表於 12-5-17 03:52


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發表於 12-5-13 04:44 |只看該作者

引用:+本帖最後由+858D+於+12-4-18+16:03+編輯+\

原帖由 858D 於 12-04-18 發表
本帖最後由 858D 於 12-4-18 16:03 編輯

難道“反對婚前性行為”的在此罪上自己犯了,知錯了,也在神面 ...
咁埋驗正咗基督徒輸打贏要茄教義囉!將個道德標準set得高一高,以為自己好聖潔!等犯咗界時就高呼包容、原諒、愛!偽善!




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發表於 12-5-12 01:15 |只看該作者
回覆 gpb 的帖子

有人因教會中, 看來很"屬靈"的人在教會歛財, 而離開上帝, 憎恨耶穌; 有人因名人未婚生子, 覺得基督徒虛偽, 選擇不信; 有人因受弟兄姊妹的傷害, 而離開教會, 並阻止其他人尋神...

但當中, 究竟耶穌做了甚麼? 因為衪沒有給"惡人"現眼報"? 因為衪沒阻止傷害的發生?

究竟耶穌做了甚麼, 我們要把對"惡人"的不滿, 發洩在耶穌的頭上?
那"惡人"做的, 值得我們賠上得救的恩嗎?
如果天空總是黑暗的,那就摸黑生存;如果發出聲音是危險的,那就保持沉默;如果自覺無力發光的,那就蜷伏於牆角。但不要習慣了黑暗就為黑暗辯護;不要為自己的苟且而得意;不要嘲諷那些比自己更勇敢熱情的人們。我們可以卑微如塵土,不可扭曲如蛆蟲 - 曼德拉


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發表於 12-5-11 14:05 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 gpb 於 12-5-11 14:16 編輯
我想生三個 發表於 12-5-11 09:17
仔女做錯事,都要睇下咩事,你唔知呢個世界咩人都有架咩?老豆斬仔,仔殺父母,咩事都會發生。
有條友無拉 ...

我知,聖經一早話左人離開左神之後,呢個世界就係墮落邪惡,咩事都會發生架喇,乜你唔知嘅咩?

不過你又唔駛咁悲嘅,你個神係點我唔知,我個神就日日出緊糧俾我,俾我嘅野係我未信之前完全想像唔到嘅,而且佢從未強求過仔女俾家用佢,因為佢乜都有,仔女唔係心甘情願俾佢嘅,佢唔希罕

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LuiWaNam  欣賞你  發表於 12-5-14 14:49
LuiWaNam  亦莊亦諧:-P  發表於 12-5-14 14:48
858D  我翻譯給KNT聽,他叫我就此留言對你說:Right On!    發表於 12-5-12 01:09


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我想生三個 發表於 12-5-11 09:17
仔女做錯事,都要睇下咩事,你唔知呢個世界咩人都有架咩?老豆斬仔,仔殺父母,咩事都會發生。
有條友無拉 ...
[- my remarks are in brackets. Wow! What god are you referring to? Doesn't sound at all like the God in the bible. Maybe you heard it in a church once, or from someone who says they know God, but did you actually read this in the bible? No, I know you didn't, because I know the bible. Perhaps you should try reading it with a little more effort next time. Thanks for insulting my Father. You don't know Him and yet you can blame Him for every evil. But I should let God speak for Himself.]


Isaiah 46:3-5
Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb:


And even to your old age I am he; and even to gray hairs will I carry you: I have made, and I will bear; even I will carry, and will deliver you.


To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be alike?


Isaiah 49:14-15
But Zion said, The Lord hath forsaken me, and my Lord hath forgotten me.


Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee.


Psalms 2 -
Why are the nations in an uproar
And the peoples devising a vain thing?
The kings of the earth take their stand
And the rulers take counsel together
Against the Lord and against His Anointed, saying,
“Let us tear their fetters apart
And cast away their cords from us!”
He who sits in the heavens laughs,
The Lord scoffs at them.
Then He will speak to them in His anger
And terrify them in His fury, saying,
“But as for Me, I have installed My King
Upon Zion, My holy mountain.”
“I will surely tell of the decree of the Lord:
He said to Me, ‘You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.
‘Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your inheritance,
And the very ends of the earth as Your possession.
‘You shall break them with a rod of iron,
You shall shatter them like earthenware.’”
Now therefore, O kings, show discernment;
Take warning, O judges of the earth.
Worship the Lord with reverence
And rejoice with trembling.
Do homage to the Son, that He not become angry, and you perish in the way,
For His wrath may soon be kindled.
How blessed are all who take refuge in Him!


[Thanks gpb for your precise and timely response. My friend translated it to me.]


KNT
Love is when the other person’s happiness is more important than your own  ~ H. Jackson Brown


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發表於 12-5-11 11:58 |只看該作者

引用:究竟基督徒可否指出別人的罪呢?基督徒的道

原帖由 anntx3 於 12-05-03 發表
究竟基督徒可否指出別人的罪呢?
基督徒的道德標準應否隨從世俗?
很同意妳所講天父是大家的,祂根本清楚我們怎樣靠自己都不能不犯罪(自私、嫉妒、苦毒等),其實基督徒對「不義的事和犯罪」都會有憤怒和失望,但如果我們也只控訴或罵犯事說句抵死,對自己和犯錯的人又有可益處呢?仰或是覺得自己比人卓越,就有權去作出一些無建設性的批判呢?究竟該事情又關唔關自己的事呢?如果甚麼都不是,那我們有甚麼可誇,惟有仰望祂的恩典,學效主耶穌的心腸,去戰勝地上的挑戰!!求聖靈幫助我們~




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發表於 12-5-11 11:54 |只看該作者
When I read KNT's this statement: "It makes more sense to buy life insurance from a man wanting immediate payment in cash. ", I laugh hard
I think because the man who buy life insurance may die next minute and the insurance man cannot collect any money from him.
Love is when the other person’s happiness is more important than your own  ~ H. Jackson Brown

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