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本帖最後由 Hyda 於 12-8-20 18:01 編輯

(本帖屬個人意見,但絕對不含任何歧視成份。)


好多父母/祖父母都覺得『唔餵人 奶冇問題吖,我個仔/女都好健康!』尤其是我地呢個generation都係食配
方奶大,所以自己都覺得冇問題。

Dr Newman 今日在Facebook寫的。希望大家可以睇睇。

唔好再比奶 粉廣告商騙了。奶 粉唔係亦都唔會同人
奶一樣咁好。有好多兒科醫生都覺得配 方奶冇問題,但佢地對母乳嘅認識又有幾多呢?

奶 粉嘅成份係標榜接近母乳。Facebook上有個comment形容得好貼切:『呢個講法只不過係等同企喺屋頂上話自己有幾咁接近個月亮』。

耐唔耐D奶 粉商就大賣廣告話加咗乜乜成份,令B B又聰明D又點點點。
咁食舊配方大嘅B B呢?咁冇咁聰明囖喎?同埋,加咗又真係聰明咗嗎?Dr Newman話,『不是奶
粉商資助的研究話冇證據顯示。』過多幾年,又會有奶 粉商話加咗D乜乜又會改善咗D乜乜,而果D乜東東不嬲都喺人 奶裡面搵到的。永無止境。因為奶 粉做唔到最好,永遠有得'improve'的。奶
粉商,只不過在做生意。

配 方奶喺processed food。點解大人都話食processed food唔好嘅同時,會選擇比B B食processed food 呢?


我真係好希望大家可以再三考慮,喺B B出生後努力餵哺母
乳。開頭時,大家都會遇到好多困難,但其實係有方法可以解決你嘅問題架。只要你識得搵support,搵人幫。有問題關於餵哺(B B含啜),就快D去健康院搵母乳姑娘教你。唔好等坐完月先去呀,越遲越難搞,會令你以為自己唔夠奶。

要知道,全世界只有約5%人唔夠奶。唔通你以為呢5%人集中在香港嗎?你要相信你嘅祖先。就係因為佢地有/夠奶,先至有我地嘅存在。人類進化係咁,所以表示你自己都會夠奶。


我由衷地希望各位媽媽/爸爸考慮母乳餵哺。尤其是就來當爸爸媽媽同懷孕中的媽媽。


以下係quote自Dr JackNewman嘅Facebook。

https://www.facebook.com/jack.newman.908

I am tired of hearing "My kidswere not breastfed and they are okay". True, they might be. Luckily humansare extremely adaptable, unlike some other mammals. A foal that does not getits mother’s colostrum will die of infection because horses, unlike humans, donot get antibodies through the placenta during the pregnancy and so need thecolostrum to protect them from bacteria and viruses. Many human babies do notget their mother’s colostrum and get formula instead and still survive. Thisdoesn’t mean it doesn’t matter.
It is said that 75% of all children will have at least one ear infection by thetime they are three years old.

Paediatricians would consider this normal.But it’s not.
There is evidence that breastfeedingprotects against ear infections, though, of course, not 100%. There is no suchthing as 100% protection. Ear infections cause much suffering for both thechild who has it and the parents who take care of the child. Sometimes thereare long term effects such as recurrent or chronic infections that interferewith hearing and requiring surgery. Most parents would still say “my kid isokay” as long as the child does not have what the parent considers a serious,chronic disease such as diabetes.
It is important not to forget that the formulas of today are supposed to be farsuperior to what someone of 30 years old or 60 years old would have had astheir feedings (according to formula company marketing). When I was in medicalschool, commercial formulas were available but most people did not use them,probably because making up your own was much less expensive but “just as good”.These home made formulas usually used homogenized milk or evaporated milk, plusadded water plus corn syrup. These were felt at the time to be “just as good asbreastfeeding”. And yet, everyone today, even those who say that breastfeedingis not better, would agree that cow's milk plus water plus corn syrup is not asgood as the formulas of today. In other words,

mothers were told nonsense and because thenonsense often came from a paediatrician, mothers naturally believed itbecause paediatricians know about infant feeding; "it’s theirspeciality".
But let’s look some more with regard to formula.

Every few years, formulas get “improved”. The most recent marketableimprovement has been adding long chained polyunsaturated fatty acids (DHA andARA) to the formula. This “improvement”, accompanied by a huge and shamelesslymisleading campaign, is supposed result in the baby’s being more intelligentand seeing better. Does it? We don’t know.
Studies not financed by the formulacompanies say no.
But let’s say the DHA and ARA do infact make the baby more intelligent and improve his vision. Does that not meanthat until early in the 2000s when the DHA and ARA were added to formulas allbabies fed formula were fed milk that interfered with the intellectualdevelopment? "New and improved formulas" come out every so often. Inthe 1970s, taurine (an amino acid present in breastmilk) was added so thatbabies’ vision would be better. What about before the 1970s when babies did notget taurine? In the 1990s, babies could now get formulas with nucleotides whichare supposed to increase immunity. But what about the artificially fed babiesbefore the 1990s? They didn’t get nucleotides. The question comes down to: are theseadditions important to the baby’s health or not? If not, we are being sold abill of goods. If yes, we have compromised the health of hundreds of millionsof babies. And we arestill doing so, because formula is still missingcomponents important to protect and maintain the baby’s health. Wait for it, in the next few years,something present in breastmilk will be added to formulas that has always beenabsent from them and a new marketing campaign will convince millions of parents(and pediatricians) that this new formula is better than previous ones andcloser still to breastmilk.


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引用:Quote:原帖由 TurtleC 於 12-08-23 發表就

原帖由 Joelung 於 12-08-23 發表
我好認同你講的說話,雖然我係人奶媽,但我都見過你所講的好偏激的人奶媽,有時都會覺得幾討厭;其實做媽媽 ...
其實要餵人奶除左決心仲要用正確既方法/知識,例如維他命C有益,服食過量都會有腎結石。




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引用:Quote:原帖由+hhpapa+於+12-08-22+發表Than

原帖由 Sammyan 於 12-08-22 發表
其實唔係想同你掀起罵戰,不過初初開頭單睇幾行字仔就真係…我都只不過睇唔過眼有人歪曲母乳。因為見到果個 ...
冇駡戰咁誇呀?我只係想心平氣和討論同分享。

作為C6, 最驚聽到產後抑鬱,當見到C9無啦啦喊,怪自己,我真係驚! 想幫手,但我又冇人奶,所以都幾sad。




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引用:Quote:原帖由+kyobi+於+12-08-22+發表Like

原帖由 TurtleC 於 12-08-23 發表
就係因為有啲人奶媽媽太偏激,唔識得去尊重人地嘅選擇。

其實好似樓主咁純粹係好中肯咁希望鼓勵多 啲人餵 ...
我好認同你講的說話,雖然我係人奶媽,但我都見過你所講的好偏激的人奶媽,有時都會覺得幾討厭;其實做媽媽的有邊個唔想將所有的最好都比自己的bb吖,但我相信亦明白,要成功餵人奶除左要有一份堅持到底永不放棄的精神之外,其實仲有其他外在的原因配合,例如屋企人的支持,媽媽要返工不便揼奶等等。

我成日都覺得成敢得失唔係最重要,最緊要係有盡過力問心無愧,凡事都唔需要勉強自己,如果有啲媽媽為左餵人奶而搞到自己精神壓力大有抑鬱,甚至有啲因為餵奶搞到同屋企人關係感情變差等等,我都會情願勸佢餵奶粉。因為有bb應該係一件開心事,唔應該變成壓力。

我喺醫院見人奶姑娘時,曾經親眼見過有個媽媽死都唔肯餵奶粉,當時佢bb已經滿月,體重比出世時輕,塊面黃到好誇張,聽姑娘講有280,差唔多要照燈;姑娘叫佢bb去兒科見醫生可能要留院,佢又係死都唔肯,因為佢要同bb一齊,要埋身餵bb。媽媽係夠奶的,只係唔識餵,餵得唔好,每次喺醫院有姑娘睇住就餵到,返到屋企就唔得,睇得出媽媽因為餵奶而好大壓力。我當時睇到覺得何必呢?難為左個bb。有時我都會諗,那個媽媽咁堅持,到底真係想比最好的bb,還是媽媽只係不顧一切地想証明自己?





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引用:Quote:原帖由+Aurorasea+於+12-08-22+發表

原帖由 kyobi 於 12-08-22 發表
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既然粉媽認為自己既選擇無錯,點解要為人地講既嘢而動怒?
就係因為有啲人奶媽媽太偏激,唔識得去尊重人地嘅選擇。

其實好似樓主咁純粹係好中肯咁希望鼓勵多 啲人餵母乳係好值得讚賞!




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引用:+本帖最後由+Aurorasea+於+12-8-22+23:18+

原帖由 Aurorasea 於 12-08-22 發表
本帖最後由 Aurorasea 於 12-8-22 23:18 編輯
Becos some of the breast feeders (not all but some of them) are indeed pushy and irritating by applying their own thoughts onto the others and NOT just sharing the benefits of breast feed.

I wouldn\'t say the formula companies are \"pushy\" cos they are simply doing business. They make money and that\'s it. They spend millions of dollar to promote their product, this is called marketing and not anti breast feeding. As a consumer we have our own choice.

I\'m not protecting the formula providers, it\'s from the business point of view. After all, going for breast feed or formulas is the choice of the mother and not anyone else.




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引用:+本帖最後由+Aurorasea+於+12-8-22+23:18+

原帖由 Aurorasea 於 12-08-22 發表
本帖最後由 Aurorasea 於 12-8-22 23:18 編輯
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既然粉媽認為自己既選擇無錯,點解要為人地講既嘢而動怒?




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本帖最後由 Aurorasea 於 12-8-22 23:18 編輯
Hyda 發表於 12-8-22 11:24
其實每個家庭都有自己嘅難處,要睇自己嘅sitiuation來衡量。如果咁樣言語去同人講母乳嘅好處,反而會令人抗 ...

One common argument I hear is that "Why do breast feeders make formula feeders feel guilty? It is my choice how I feed my baby".
However, true choice exist when mothers haven been given all the options and information about the benefits, drawbacks of different methods of feeding.

But why are breast feeders and healthcare professionals, who are sharing information about the benefits of breast feeding, are often regarded as 'pushy' and 'irritating'?

Instead, why many members of public accept and even believe formula milk companies, who are just trying to make business and constantly downplay the benefits of breast feeding bombard the public with their 'IRRITATING' advertisements on TV, magazines, mum's clubs, books, gifts, 'seminars', celebrities, health clinics, internet, mother's forum, and EVERYWHERE, with pseudo science (PHD, AA, etc. ) and false information? These formula businesses spend millions of dollars on advertisement, aren't THEY THE PUSHY ONES? Yet they are the ones that create all the public scare with tainted milk (melamine), or inadequate key nutritional values (e.g. Iodine).

Therefore, we mothers should inform ourselves about the pros and cons of infant feeding. Provided your choice is fully informed, you can justify your own informed choice and need not feel guilty. If you do feel guilty, please target your anger towards the formula companies who have lied to you how formula milk is better or equal to breast milk, and used every possible method to make you give up (by saying breast feeding is always more difficult - which is not necessarily true, or you won't have enough milk - which is most of the time not true if it is properly done, or even worse that 'breast milk should be stopped after 6 months, which is a common lie they say to mothers to make them stop and change to no. 2 + formulas).
And also, blame the anti-breast feeding people including some ignorant health care professionals who discouraged and undermined your motherly instincts, and the general anti-breast feeding culture who discourages breast feeding mums (e.g. inadequate breast feeding rooms, no pumping rooms or times allowed at work, not allowed to breast feed in public).






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引用:我只餵咗一個月人奶,有好多周邊因素令我結

原帖由 TurtleC 於 12-08-22 發表
我只餵咗一個月人奶,有好多周邊因素令我結果放棄咗;唔想頼其他嘢,主要原因係我冇堅持。所以我冇資格鼓勵 ...
絕對認同,餵奶粉唔代表唔愛bb,唔代表佢唔係好媽媽。




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我只餵咗一個月人奶,有好多周邊因素令我結果放棄咗;唔想頼其他嘢,主要原因係我冇堅持。所以我冇資格鼓勵人餵人奶,因為我都唔成功。不過我希望各人奶媽知道,有好多粉媽其實都知道人奶係最好,佢地無俾廣告商呃,只係每人都有唔同原因去做唔同選擇;唔餵人奶,代替品只有奶粉,話之個奶粉廣告講到隻奶粉飲咗識飛都好啦~ 唔餵人奶唔代表唔愛BB,唔代表佢就唔係好媽媽。早排奶粉缺碘,有某啲人奶媽媽真係俾人有幸災樂禍嘅感覺。如果真係有咁嘅心態,就算可以餵人奶餵到超過世衛標準,餵到自然離乳,又如何?我唔會欣賞,因為有咁嘅心態已經唔配做人媽媽,唔配教育下一代。




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引用:+本帖最後由+Bbtvsvod+於+12-8-22+16:40+編

原帖由 Bbtvsvod 於 12-08-22 發表
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我係半人奶媽, 每日一定餵足3餐人奶, 但我都想講, 有D媽媽O ...
順產個比喻係一流!




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引用:我覺得各人有選擇的自由,我地知道母乳有幾

原帖由 Joelung 於 12-08-22 發表
我覺得各人有選擇的自由,我地知道母乳有幾好話比佢地知,但佢地因為種種原因,最後都選擇唔係最好的都無辦 ...
Agree!




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Make sense and support you!




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Agree.




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引用:回覆+Hyda+的帖子 我係一位老師.我見大家

原帖由 nor.nat. 於 12-08-22 發表
回覆 Hyda 的帖子

我係一位老師.
Good saying!!




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引用:+本帖最後由+Bbtvsvod+於+12-8-22+16:40+編

原帖由 Bbtvsvod 於 12-08-22 發表
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我係半人奶媽, 每日一定餵足3餐人奶, 但我都想講, 有D媽媽O ...
我係順產,一直全人奶,仲係在職(FT)媽媽。




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引用:Quote:Hyda+發表於+12-8-22+16:38+我有睇你

原帖由 hhpapa 於 12-08-22 發表
Thanks!

我最唔憤氣就係有D人一聽到我叫C9補奶粉就話我唔support...
其實唔係想同你掀起罵戰,不過初初開頭單睇幾行字仔就真係…我都只不過睇唔過眼有人歪曲母乳。因為見到果個post 真係睇到眼突。因為唔keep住餵就真係會停,所以堅持好緊要。不論全人奶,或半人奶,就算餵得一日都好,起碼都叫有心餵。其實你做既野唔比呢度既媽媽少,心底覺得你係一個好丈夫,好爸爸!你要同太太加油。




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