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大宅

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發表於 12-5-13 09:12 |只看該作者
IvyCP 發表於 12-5-13 04:44
咁埋驗正咗基督徒輸打贏要茄教義囉!將個道德標準set得高一高,以為自己好聖潔!等犯咗界時就高呼包容、原 ...
...咦...你其實係講緊基督教定黃大仙呢?
基督教從來無認為自己好聖潔,一向都認為自己無個好人,同你冇乜唔同...
另一方面,犯左錯時從來無話冇責罰唔駛改,更加唔係話捐下錢燒返隻豬就攪得掂...
其實你講緊咩教架?


大宅

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大宅

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發表於 12-5-13 12:40 |只看該作者

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原帖由 gpb 於 12-05-13 發表
...咦...你其實係講緊基督教定黃大仙呢?
基督教從來無認為自己好聖潔,一向都認為自己無個好人,同你冇乜 ...
佢哋入教要奉獻架,1/10啊,好搵過黃大仙




珍珠宮

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發表於 12-5-13 15:14 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 858D 於 12-5-13 15:58 編輯
IvyCP 發表於 12-5-13 04:44
咁埋驗正咗基督徒輸打贏要茄教義囉!將個道德標準set得高一高,以為自己好聖潔!等犯咗界時就高呼包容、原諒、愛!偽善!

、、、、、、 《=== 將嘔左既兜頭淋落來基督徒的頭上啦。我地受得嫁,因為我地知道實情唔系我地在受,而是我們所親愛的 主耶穌基督 在受這侮辱呢。

致閣下(先生或女士)IvyCP:
你好!

唔好意思,我暫時未明白閣下 講乜?不過我毫無興趣去明白閣下 用這些詞彙 (“聖潔”、“犯咗界”、“包容”、“原諒”、“愛”、“偽善”)時所持的屬世 定義是什麼。因為從我個人的經歷中,我認識到:不信基督之人無論怎麼解釋他們對這些詞彙所持的定義 都是我不能聽得懂的方言。請恕我在這方面的無能。

我個個字都識讀,但好似你如此湊在一起寫就、、、doesn't make sense to me.

我順從聖靈的帶領來讀聖經,我就能明白我的神 對 聖潔、犯咗界、包容、原諒、愛、偽善 等詞彙的定義。我也能憑神的話語 聖經 來幫我辯明神所定的 是、非、正、邪、善、惡。

既然我們的道不同,就無需刻意相為謀。 即使如此,我也願我們能和平交談!若我有言得罪閣下的,望你能見諒和認同這般=〉 你我 是說著不同的方言:我在上發的貼所說的是基督徒語言(方言),閣下說的是非基督徒語言(方言)。因此事實,我們實在難以溝通。例如:若我說 “聖潔” 、“偽善”時,我所持的定義必與閣下所持的定義有很大的差異。所以若我們溝通不到,不是你我的錯,而是文化、背景、方言有分別而已。




Love is when the other person’s happiness is more important than your own  ~ H. Jackson Brown


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發表於 12-5-13 15:36 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 858D 於 12-5-13 15:44 編輯

858D: To Christian Fellows who hold the worldly definition of “聖潔”、 “偽善” , here is a response from my friend KNT:

Hypocrites and holiness

I think you have a strange idea of these two concepts.

A person is not a hypocrite if they merely repeat what God has said.

They are a hypocrite if they pretend to be someone they are not.

If God says they are righteous, then no one should be calling them hypocrites for trying to be righteous or teaching righteous living to others.

I don't know of many Christians who pretend to be perfect or claim that they are. But some might seem to think they are better than others because of their own goodness. That is not right, but we are human too and don't claim to be perfect.

Would a teacher of math be a hypocrite if they were to incorrectly calculate some math problem? No, just proves that they are human. Just because they are not perfect does not mean they do not know what they are teaching nor does it mean they are not trying. So, if they are trying, then they are sincere and if they are sincere how can they be the hypocrite?

The only real differences between a true Christian and a non-Christian is that the Christian is a sinner who is saved and they do not seek to sin. The non-Christian is a sinner who is not saved because they seek to please themselves rather than God. If anyone sought God they would find Him for He is not far away.

However, I can see where a person who accuses Christians of hypocricy is a real hypocrite. Because how can they judge a person who is trying to do what is right and then do whatever they want to do regardless of what God says is right?
This is where you do not understand the bible definition of "holy". It does not mean perfect. Holy means "set apart".
Who sets the Christian apart?
God does.
How?
By sending His Son to die in our place. That is what makes a Christian holy or not, not our goodness, but the greatness of Christ's gift. So no one can boast before God. But if you do not acknowledge Christ as Lord of your life then you will die in your sins.
So what you are really doing by putting down Christians is putting down Christ's sacrifice and saying it is not good enough to make His believer holy and righteous.

KNT



Love is when the other person’s happiness is more important than your own  ~ H. Jackson Brown


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發表於 12-5-13 17:03 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 gpb 於 12-5-13 17:04 編輯
IvyCP 發表於 12-5-13 12:40
佢哋入教要奉獻架,1/10啊,好搵過黃大仙

1/10奉獻係聖經原則,執唔執行你自己決定,絕大部分教會都唔會規定你奉獻幾多。都係0個句,你個神係點我唔知,我個神就乜都有,從未強求過仔女俾家用佢,唔係心甘情願俾佢嘅,佢一D唔希罕。


大宅

積分: 1527

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187#
發表於 12-5-13 17:24 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 gpb 於 12-5-14 02:32 編輯
858D 發表於 12-5-13 15:14
、、、、、、 《=== 將嘔左既兜頭淋落來基督徒的頭上啦。我地受得嫁,因為我地知道實情唔系我地在 ...

唔好勞氣,認真你就輸鳥
而且好小兒科0者,當年我未信之前講得仲過份。當年我熟讀聖經(當然唔係因為咩好動機),但係仲要羞辱到班基督徒吐血九升,激到死去活來

今時今日又點呢?咪又係乖乖地係度學做人地眼中嘅傻佬!我永遠記得自己個心同把口曾經有幾硬,所以成日同弟兄姊妹講,當日我做過係基督徒身上嘅(亦即係做係主身上嘅),我預左要受返哂架喇!但這些是我的冠冕,是主所賜的,I am so proud of it!

點評

858D   感謝神的恩,有你這位住在主裡的弟兄。  發表於 12-5-14 08:33


大宅

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發表於 12-5-14 09:07 |只看該作者
IvyCP 發表於 12-5-13 12:38
如果你哋正義、包容依家你個屎忽口就愛嚟祈禱啦!唔係插同你唔同意見嘅屎忽口啦!物你哋「愛的真諦 ...

我講明我是屎忽口,你還要弄一個伸舌頭的icon,真拿你沒辦法........


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洋房

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發表於 12-5-17 12:53 |只看該作者
結婚唔係簽張紙,佢地知道自己認定對方咪得lol~
不過點解佢反對婚前性行為既言論就奇怪d, 但係旁人唔應該支支左左, 呢件係人地既開心事~
佢地私下向對方認定左無必要同人交代,家陣結婚只係因應社會在法律方面而設計,
以前d人擺左酒,相方家人認同就係結左婚啦,耶穌時代既人唔會去搵律師簽紙掛~


複式洋房

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191#
發表於 12-6-5 21:52 |只看該作者
回覆 美亞 的帖子

我覺得朱小姐没有婚前性行為而有身孕!


複式洋房

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192#
發表於 12-6-6 01:29 |只看該作者
聖經新約中的希伯來書 十三:4提到 " 婚 姻 , 人 人 都 当 尊 重 , 床 也 不 可 污 秽 。 因 为 苟 合 行 淫 的 人 神 必 要 审 判" ,所以基督徒係唔應該有婚前性行為!
事情發生了,當事人能向神交帳就好了.
畢竟她是作了不好的見證,但誰又知曉神的作為呢!神能夠利用一切去彰顯祂的神聖!

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