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yanlongma

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發表於 07-10-11 16:09 |只看該作者

我個仔都係唔俾人點得(夜晚及朝早)，daddy抱佢，佢會發din兼好惡咁鬧人！

不過，我覺得佢唔係肚餓，因為見佢都唔係食得好狼，只係合上眼慢慢啜。所以我估就算佢肯食奶粉，佢都係會定時定候醒，要啜啜！

原文章由 cftl243 於 07-10-11 15:47 發表
點解咁多人奶b 都有呢個情況, 有無人可以解釋到??

我囝囝呢排又係咁, 一晚醒幾次(3-5次), 以前都有醒, 但就無咁密, 仲要淨係痴我, 俾爸爸掂到就:-( 到七彩, 搞到我謝晒, 而家想試下係23:xx左右俾佢食奶粉, ...

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yennie

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發表於 07-10-12 06:28 |只看該作者

我之前係0708個打咗篇我點幫BB戒夜奶
大家有時間既可以睇睇
唔好意思,我之前打唔到中文,所以全英...
想睇埋我地既進程, 請黎呢到睇睇啦!
有ROUTINE, BB 同你都可以瞓好d

I know ppl saying mums should feed on demand when babis first born. But I believe having a routine is more important - even if you are breastfeeding!
Frineds of mine who are breastfeeding, their babies didn't sleep through the night until they were 6 months+. Cos the health visitors say babies will sleep better after they have solid food. But I want a good night sleep as soon as I gave birth, not when my baby is 6 months old...so...this is y I don't listen to the health visitor>.<
This is how I do...

1-4 weeks
I fed Willow every 3-4 hours. I always try to push her to 4 hours if possible, if not, 3 hours at least.
Pattern: wake her up by changing her nappy->feed her one side, give her a 10-15 mins break+burp her, feed her the other side->play with her a bit to make her nackered->sleep
If she fall asleep after her feed during the day, I just let her sleep. But I always try to keep her awake before the last feed at night to make her sleep longer.

It's hard to start a routine at first but soon your baby will learn the routine->life will be so much easier! And you'll know all that hard work it's worth it. Bare in mind, If you have a 3-hour routine, don't feed your baby in less 3 hours - keep your time, even if he/she cries mentally. Crying won't do them any harm, it's good for their lung (not neccessary true but...this thought makes me feel better when I leave her to cry.)

If your baby do cry, tryy to put him/her in a carrier (I highly recommend!!! It do the trick!)

4-6 weeks
I graduly push her routine to 3.5 hours, then 4 hours. She is now very used to her routine. Sometimes I can even leave her for 4.5 hours- need to wake her up and feed her.

*How to get rid of the wind
I sometimes put willow on her front (not recommend by docs cos of cot death but it really helps her to get rid of the wind!)
Put baby over your shoulder and pat on your baby's back (I always pat her quite hard...if you pat your baby too gentle, it doesn't work as well)
put ur baby on your lap on their front and gently rub his/her back
idealy, put a cloth on ur lap b4 u put ur baby on...he/she may sick on u!
benifit:
babies like lying on their front, if u put them like this when they are crying, they will stop very soon.
this position can help them get rid of the wind.
And you won't have any back + arm ache with this position

Let your baby sit on your lap facing one side, put your hand around his/her neck on his/her chest and rub their back.

Hope you'll find this useful!!!

Love,
Yennie (mother of 2 girls, Francesca, 21 months, Willow, 9 weeks)xxx

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kamiti

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原文章由 yennie 於 07-10-12 06:28 發表
我之前係0708個打咗篇我點幫BB戒夜奶
大家有時間既可以睇睇
唔好意思,我之前打唔到中文,所以全英...
想睇埋我地既進程, 請黎呢到睇睇啦!
有ROUTINE, BB 同你都可以瞓好d

I know ppl saying mums should feed on dem ...

your experience is so good. thank you.
i am much admire u.

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Yennie,

Personally I dont agree your routine feeding as it is too harsh for a baby! Yes, it may work for your baby but I dont feel this is a good way to bring up a child. I dont have a routine and I feed him varies from 1hr to 5hr. I like to see him smiles after finish and this is the best joy for breastfeeding.
I dont have hard time without routine feeding.

原文章由 yennie 於 07-10-12 06:28 AM 發表
我之前係0708個打咗篇我點幫BB戒夜奶
大家有時間既可以睇睇
唔好意思,我之前打唔到中文,所以全英...
想睇埋我地既進程, 請黎呢到睇睇啦!
有ROUTINE, BB 同你都可以瞓好d

I know ppl saying mums should feed on dem ...

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xmother,
I think your word "I don't agree with you" is a bit strong. I am not here telling mums what to do. I am just trying to help. And you don't have to do it. As a mother, we are all doing what's best for our babies. That's no right or wrong.

I read a book about the different between routine baby and the baby that feed on demand. Routine babies seem to be clamer (as mine are), they've got plenty of sleep and less grumpy. You can easily tell y they r crying and sort them out- less frastration. When they get bigger, they tend to learn things quicker as they have more rest and focus better.
"Lack of regularity sends a negative signal to the baby's body, creating metabolic confusion that negatively affects his or her hunger, digestive, and sleep/wake cycles.

Benifits of Parent-Directed Feeding
1.Baby's metabolism is stable, since parental interaction is regular and predictable.
2.Baby's digestive system will have fewer problems with colic-like symptoms when compared with feed on demand baby.
3.Baby's nighttime sleep cycles will be stabilized.
4.Baby doesn't have to be manipulated to sleep. When bed time comes, baby will be placed in the cot/crib and the baby falls asleeo on his/her own. (my babies do!) If there is any fussing, it's very limited. On the other hand, babies that feed on demand, their parents always need to nurse them to sleep, but the ordeal sometimes takes hours. ( Since my first born was 4 months, I put her to bed at 7 and she will go to sleep on her own - no fuss at all. She always sleeps til 7 in the morning.)
Babyis stimulus barrier - a person's ability to filter out unnecessary sounds, such as background noises - matures more quickly.
6.Baby moves naturally from dependence to independence.The nature of the PDF program foster relational security.
7.Baby is learning to be at peace with his/her environment. PDF foster an environment of learning from the beginning, which enhances his/her learning potential. Learning disorthers associated with nonstructured styles of parenting - including deficiencies in sitting, focusing, and concentrating - are minimized with routine.

摘枝自"On becoming Baby Wise" P.45-46

原文章由 xother 於 07-10-13 01:42 發表
Yennie,

Personally I dont agree your routine feeding as it is too harsh for a baby! Yes, it may work for your baby but I dont feel this is a good way to bring up a child. I dont have a routine and I ...

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發表於 07-10-13 05:12 |只看該作者

原文章由 yennie 於 07-10-9 05:39 發表
我都係餵人奶...但我係有覺好瞓人奶媽媽
不如你地都TRY TRY 以下既方法LA

細女...由WEEK 6開始佢已經戒咗夜奶啦
我仲可以餵完佢之後放佢落床,佢會自己瞓著添
...
我以前都要抱住佢,等佢瞓著之後先放佢落床
不過成日一放低佢佢就會醒...又要再抱佢
攰到暈
所以係佢4個月大既某一日,我突定咁落去唔係辦法...我就...
餵完佢放佢落佢自己張床閂門走人
第一晚佢喊咗1個鐘脄後攰到瞓著
第二晚20分鐘
...如示者一星期後佢就唔喊...自己會瞓著

"我都係餵人奶...但我係有覺好瞓人奶媽媽" ~ me too!:mrgreen:
不過而家晚上半夜會起身泵奶, 所以成日都唔係一覺瞓天光. 反而我的bb就真係一覺瞓天光.

我兩個小朋友都係人奶b, 大仔那時係全泵型, 妹妹日頭食樽, 我放工返到屋企就埋身食餵.
大仔bb時我地唔捨得佢喊, 佢一喊即抱. 好快佢就變得好黏身. 晚上瞓覺係要大人抱住"暗"先瞓到

. 佢仲被我女傭縱到要抱著佢扭來扭去咁"暗"瞓覺

. 結果頭幾個月晚上"暗"瞓覺要女傭出手先瞓到. 大仔一路瞓覺方面都獨立唔到, 到而家3歲, 晚上瞓覺我都要"陪瞓" ~ 佢的單人床同我地大人床係並排, 除非佢好攰, 否則要有大人瞓在房內佢才肯瞓.
相反到妹妹出世後, 我覺得照以往湊大仔的方法來照顧妹妹實在唔掂. 因為湊兩件實在冇可能成日抱著妹妹. 結果我在妹妹兩個月時依同 "從0歲開始" 呢本書的理念同妹妹做睡眠訓練, 要佢自己入睡. 頭2日bb真係喊到飛起, 我自己唔開心之餘, 仲要努力游說女傭同我配合, 又要承受99同婆婆的壓力 (當然到2個禮拜之後睇番, 呢d努力都係值得的). 但過了幾日, 已開始見到有改善. 大約過了2個禮拜後, bb已經可以聽住音樂自己入睡.
妹妹頭3日的睡眠訓練我都寫了日記記錄(click).

至於食奶方面, 從0歲開始 亦建議應由父母決定餵哺時間, 唔可以"哭即餵". 書入面提到有規律的餵食有助bb睡過夜. 我個人覺得bb頭一個月應該哭即餵, 以免佢食唔夠. 但到滿月媽媽上奶後, 有規律的餵食對媽媽同bb都好d.
我的大仔係全泵型, 所以那時二個禮拜大已經係有規律的餵食, 每3小時一餐奶. 妹妹係埋身食, thanks god佢好乖, 我冇逼過佢唔俾佢食, 一返到屋企佢已經自己每3個鐘食一餐, 係在3週大時有段時間食得好密, 同埋第2-3個月在黃昏時好似食極都唔飽咁.
我的兩個寶寶都有6週時自己戒了夜奶. (我覺得佢地咁快咁戒到夜奶仲有另一個重要因素, 就係有我的"優良遺傳"

-- 鍾意

)
另, 早幾個星期妹妹有幾晚被我整醒左 (其實我之不過同佢蓋好條被仔, 不過佢好醒瞓

), 跟住我整唔番佢

, 就抱佢埋身食奶來迷暈佢. 如是者之後半夜我明明冇嘈到佢, 佢都好多時零晨3-4時喊醒, 結果我又俾奶佢食. 最近我覺得咁樣的pattern唔係咁好, 因為佢食番夜奶對我同佢的休息都冇咁好; 而佢食夜奶我覺得唔係因為佢餓, 而可能係習慣而已. 結果前幾晚佢喊時, 我塞了一個安撫奶咀俾佢食. 佢食唔夠5mins已經瞓番. 之後的3晚(今晚係第3晚), 佢都一覺瞓天光. 希望妹妹繼續乖乖瞓多多. :loveliness:

寫咁多野其實係想俾那些新手媽媽知道, 人奶bb唔一定戒唔到夜奶的. 人奶bb都可以瞓得好好, 不過有機會係初頭要付出一些代價. 值唔值就真係見仁見智了.

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kamiti

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原文章由 amypekkle 於 07-10-13 05:12 發表

"我都係餵人奶...但我係有覺好瞓人奶媽媽" ~ me too!:mrgreen:
不過而家晚上半夜會起身泵奶, 所以成日都唔係一覺瞓天光. 反而我的bb就真係一覺瞓天光.

我兩個小朋友都係人奶b, 大仔那時係全泵型, 妹妹日頭食樽, ...

好多謝Amy, 你嘎經驗好實在，不過我已經“洗濕個頭”，個囡14個月都係食住奶訓，而家甘大先train佢，唔知道得唔得呢？
我真係好想有覺好訓，我更加希望佢一覺訓到天光，畢竟對BB本身都好吖嘛。
我個囡係唔多中意訓覺個種，遺傳唔到我超中意訓覺嘎優點:-(

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我個女14個月大la....都未戎夜奶, 我係呢14個月入嚟每日都係瞓4個hrs到.....

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I strongly believe that feeding a baby involves more than providing nutrients; it is an act of love. It is providing for the very intense hunger needs of a newborn, mother can use feeding time as an opportunity to strengthen their bonds with their children.

So base on that, I would suggested newborn mothers to feed on cue, before the stage of crying, mothers should feed their babies when the babies seem to be hungry. This means that mothers must learn to recognize when their baby's behavior signals a need for food.

The benefits of this "cue-reading" approach to infant feeding go well beyond infancy. Parents who respond to their baby as an individual with unique, valid needs will continue to respect these needs as their child grows. They will be better able to adapt their parenting to their child's changing needs, they will be more confident of their ability to cope with each new age and stage, and they will enjoy a rich, multi-faceted relationship with their child.

Learning to trust your baby and trust yourself is no small lesson to master at the beginning of the journey that is parenthood. When mothers breastfeed according to infant cues, they embark on a life of two-way communication with that child, where the ability to listen is their most valuable skill.

[ 本文章最後由 nikitac 於 07-10-13 11:23 編輯 ]

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我大仔依家2歲2個月大~佢都仲當我係奶咀!!可能舊時揍佢用錯左方法,我果時怕辛苦,每次佢一喊我就比奶佢食,而且仲要係同佢一齊訓,等佢一面食我就可以一面訓....點知到依家佢訓親覺都要食住奶奶先肯訓...不過佢係我媽咪屋企過夜既時候係可以自己訓架

所以我諗仔仔當左我係奶咀,只要我係佢身邊就一定要比佢食住奶奶訓......今次我唔想細B都係咁,所以我決定打死都唔比細B同我地一齊訓,依家就算幾攰都好,我都要坐係道餵佢,而且仲要佢一食完就放返佢落床仔自己訓,暫時都ok既~細B都算乖每次食完都肯自己訓返,加上佢食奶既時間比較有規律,每次都係2.5-3個鐘先醒要食奶,唔同大B果時咁樣每1-1.5個鐘就醒一次,所以我今胎無上胎餵得咁辛苦...希望細B可以keep住咁樣落去喇

大b駿逸

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原文章由 kamiti 於 07-10-13 05:59 發表
不過我已經“洗濕個頭”，個囡14個月都係食住奶訓，而家甘大先train佢，唔知道得唔得呢？
我真係好想有覺好訓，我更加希望佢一覺訓到天光，畢竟對BB本身都好吖嘛。

kamiti,
我都諗如果你的小朋友到14個月都係食住奶來瞓, 似乎難戒左d ~ 所以我都係希望我的分享對新手媽咪有幫助.
至於你的囡囡, 不如當人地食安撫奶咀咁, 到小朋友歲半至兩歲 (視乎佢對你同佢講道理的接收能力有幾多)才考慮同佢戒啦.

其實那晚發表完後我再打左d野補充, 不過bk死左

我的補充:
相信大家都好希望自己的bb能夠自己睡過夜, 不過做睡眠訓練逼bb自己入睡亦唔係唯一辦法:
我有個朋友的囡囡(都係埋身的人奶b)滿左月後都係好扭抱, 日頭小睡同晚上都要大人抱著才能入睡. 但係到bb滿左3個零月, 慢慢佢就可以在眼瞓時自己在床仔踢下踢下便入睡. bb亦在3個月時自動戒了夜奶, 晚上11-12點食完, 第二朝6:00-7:00才再食.

其實我個人認為, 可能有些bb係容易d自己入睡, 有些bb係容易d戒夜奶. 不過有時當bb將食夜奶當作習慣(而唔係需要)時, 我地可以考慮幫佢手建立一個好一點的作息時間.
好似我囡囡咁, 10/10號零晨我在佢半夜喊時第一次俾奶咀佢食, 佢連續2晚冇半夜喊醒(之前有2個星期差不多晚晚半夜3-4點喊醒). 13/10零晨佢在5:30喊醒(其實都係我同佢蓋被掂到佢才醒的), 因為前一晚佢十點已經瞓左, 我覺得佢都真係有d肚餓, 所以就俾佢埋身食. 14/10零晨囡囡又係可以瞓到6:00am過外; 今朝又5:30喊食, 咁佢前一晚早瞓, 而且我試過俾奶咀佢食左兩啖佢都喊, 我就又抱佢埋身食.

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原文章由 amypekkle 於 07-10-15 16:00 發表

kamiti,
我都諗如果你的小朋友到14個月都係食住奶來瞓, 似乎難戒左d ~ 所以我都係希望我的分享對新手媽咪有幫助.
至於你的囡囡, 不如當人地食安撫奶咀咁, 到小朋友歲半至兩歲 (視乎佢對你同佢講道理的接收能力有幾 ...

amy, 好多謝你的經驗同建議。
我都打算比安撫奶嘴個女試下，唔知邊隻奶嘴比較適合呢？
我個女從細都唔多食奶樽的，祗係用過pigeon一個牌子奶樽。
安撫奶樽買邊種好呢？你BB係食邊隻訓著咖？

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我個女八個幾月了,但一直都埋身喂而且冇定時食奶,佢依家連粥仔都唔係太鐘意食,高興就食幾啖,所以好似最近幾個月都冇咩大隻到,夜晚都係醒好多次,一醒就要搵奶奶,我俾佢激到好

,細個已經想話戒夜奶,不過佢一喊老公就勁心痛,又驚吵住佢訓覺,好大壓力啊,所以拖到而家,我真係好想定時喂奶同埋戒夜奶,因為佢訓得唔好對佢發育都唔係咁好,我唔知點算好,好煩惱,因為個女一定會喊,老公又一定會衝過來抱住佢,請教大家你地戒夜奶時會唔會都好大壓力呢?因為講真我未試過俾囡囡喊超過十分鐘= ="而且老公到而家我係咁呻辛苦同埋唔可以再咁樣,佢都係唔支持我戒啊!唉...點算點算點算:-(

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ammc

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發表於 07-10-17 12:13 |只看該作者

其實你地贊唔贊成比奶咀bb食呢 ? In between 3-4 鍾頭食奶時間, bb都會喊架, 我工人成日叫我比奶咀佢食, 但我真係唔想, 想睇下你地會唔會比奶咀呢 ?

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發表於 07-10-17 14:03 |只看該作者

係呀我家下都係咁一齊訓.

原文章由 chiuchristan 於 07-10-8 16:24 發表
Hi all,

Teething stage is really not easy for both BB & you!

BB sometimes needs nurturance & comfort in the mid of night, especially during teething discomfort.
I'm a working mom, too tired to wake ...

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發表於 07-10-17 14:04 |只看該作者

哈.我隻囝係俾佢佢唔食頂番出來唔要..要人肉奶咀!

原文章由 ammc 於 07-10-17 12:13 發表
其實你地贊唔贊成比奶咀bb食呢 ? In between 3-4 鍾頭食奶時間, bb都會喊架, 我工人成日叫我比奶咀佢食, 但我真係唔想, 想睇下你地會唔會比奶咀呢 ?

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kamiti,
安撫奶咀同食奶奶咀一樣, 好睇bb鍾意食邊隻. 我囡囡係食avent的(應該係話, 我買左avent, 佢肯食). 你囡囡食開pigeon奶樽, 會唔會食pigeon的安撫奶咀好d呢? (我冇留意pigeon, 不過我估佢有出安撫奶咀掛?!)

applegun,
戒夜奶 ~ 可唔可以/有冇試過俾水bb飲來代替食奶?

ammc,
我怕bb將來的牙仔唔靚, 所以只會接受俾佢臨瞓食奶咀. 瞓著左都最好拎番出來. 日頭bb醒左就最好唔好食. 我覺得日頭玩緊都食住奶咀, 有機會讓bb將來遲d學講野 ~ 佢掛住食奶咀, 懶得開口講野.