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子爵府

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發表於 06-8-15 12:25 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

Glenda豬都係頭偏細,而身高體重由4M-而+都係50%-65%,健康院知我仲全人奶,非常支持,又知道開始糊/粥,都無叫我補奶粉,可能個別醫生/姑娘問題,而且佢又見MATT仔比較輕所以先叫補奶粉...
gu 寫道:
甘衰
你仔仔頭圍係米不嬲都細?
我仔出生全部25%,慢慢頭維持25%條線,其他50%條線,由細到現在都係。


大宅

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發表於 06-8-15 12:48 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

有冇攪錯呀
佢係唔係醫生黎架?
投訴佢!!


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發表於 06-8-15 13:12 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

文里文靜

那個doctor 當然太主觀, 不過我都應同, 奶的質素好重要,
如果你bb 偏瘦, 可能與你的飲食有關, 你試下食多d有營養的食物啦,
之前我看醫生, 醫生仲講笑咁叫我飲油, 我一向一點肥/油也不吃, 不過為了母乳的質素, 就食番多少少肥啦,,,洗奶樽時,
d 母乳又真係肥番d..
你要食多d, 奶奶自然好d


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24#
發表於 06-8-15 13:49 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

其實係因為Matthew仔6個月頭圍比例比佢果條線細左!
但已經正常,佢話驚matthew仔個腦唔係正常發展,
因為頭細有機會喎!

咁matthew仔食得玩得訓得,仲曳曳過人,又點會...

所以今次返去見醫生囉!

佢都有叫我煲粥,不過係因為佢叫我唔好再餵人奶,
6個月後無營養...我先火!


今日我都嘗試煲粥俾Matthew仔食!(煲梗)


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25#
發表於 06-8-15 14:10 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

媽媽的營養唔夠而令到bb營養唔夠係完全可以理解,但我相信香港人的營養應該唔會太差掛。就算係媽媽營養方面出咗問題,也應該問吓媽媽了解情況,唔應該話人奶6個月後無營養,仲叫人唔好餵,咁同奶粉商有乜分別?

我只去過一次健康院,見過醫生後我都唔想再見佢,對話如下:
醫:頭圍細D喎。
我:咁會有乜野問題?
醫:個頭細囉。
我:咁有乜野影響?
醫:個腦有問題囉!
我:(好緊張)有乜野問題?
醫:頭圍細個腦咪有問題囉。
跟住叫我地出返去。

之後去睇私家,佢話我bb度頭圍嗰度啱啱係凹咗,所以度起上來細DD,冇問題。


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發表於 06-8-15 14:20 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

如果俾我


大宅

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27#
發表於 06-8-15 15:02 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

文里,
我覺得你好勇話番個醫生


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發表於 06-8-15 16:05 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!


[size=x-large]係咪傻架, 頭仔細就話驚個腦有問題, 佢就真係有問題喇, 痴線架, 唔好理佢

佢真係唔可以咁講野囉, 咁會嚇親d mami架

真係五行欠


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29#
發表於 06-8-15 16:38 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

但bb個頭的大少係真係用來診斷個腦有冇問題.如果唔係點要度頭圍..可能係佢講的技巧唔係咁好.但個醫生冇講錯的..如果真係有個媽咪信咗你,唔理個bb個頭圍細,咁你真係可能成世都唔安樂..

重有,我都覺得大家有時係呢個綱發言都過份偏激.有好多嘢唔係自己覺得冇問題就真係有問題.. 如果真係咁就唔駛要醫生啦..

係呢個綱,好多人都係未見過面,每個人身體都唔同,又點可以聽人家講幾句就比到咁多意見..個個都話人奶好,係人都知,但你又點知邊個媽媽個身子好唔好..如果某個媽媽係170cm但只係得40kg的話,又或者個媽媽係好偏食的.營養可以唔夠均衡.見完醫生,醫生話叫佢餵粉,可能係個媽媽身體唔許可餵母乳.但唔代表個醫生唔鼓勵母乳.

但呢個被提意餵奶粉的媽媽 (我唔係話呢個版主)一上來聽到一人一句d咁片面之詞的意見,好容易會鑽牛角尖,唔聽醫生的意見,咁一路餵人奶.可能會對母嬰2個都好大影響..母乳係值得鼓勵,但唔係係知咁少的情況下作d咁偏激的意見..又係咁叫人餵..

各位..慎言!慎言!..唔好好心做壞事


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發表於 06-8-15 16:53 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!


Fatrix:

自問我身體各方面都ok,雖然我自已貧血,
但都問醫生過照餵人奶無問題!
只不過係因為單一果個醫生講野唔經大腦!

強調:醫生只可以建議,唔可以咁肯定同你講餵奶粉!

請注意呢一點!thx


大宅

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發表於 06-8-15 17:38 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

文里文靜,

我不是指你身體不好,讓你誤會了,真不好意思.
我只係指出醫生提意餵奶粉,係會有機會有其他可能性..

好似其他媽媽所講,有個second opinion 比其他媽媽,唔會咁一面倒的支持只係餵人奶.

況且,我自己深信,"奶"有冇營養係睇d奶有乜composition, 唔係人奶就一定有營養d,奶粉就差d..如果個媽媽又食煙,又飲酒..咁我可以肯定話呢個媽媽的人奶composition 會比奶粉的composition差.


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32#
發表於 06-8-15 20:29 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

Money,
如果"果位"醫生嘅建議唔可信,您可以問多幾個醫生.....
文里文靜 寫道:

Fatrix:

自問我身體各方面都ok,雖然我自已貧血,
但都問醫生過照餵人奶無問題!
只不過係因為單一果個醫生講野唔經大腦!

強調:醫生只可以建議,唔可以咁肯定同你講餵奶粉!

請注意呢一點!thx


大宅

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發表於 06-8-16 01:18 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

乜呢段對話咁似mudull同mcmug講野咁既,咁無point的醫生.....

我阿b而家都係全人奶,之前驗血話佢可能缺鐵貧血.當時醫生(瑪麗)都無叫我停人奶,只係叫我早d俾佢食糊/蛋黃/肉...因為就算奶粉有幾多幾多營養都好,始終係人工合成的,bb食左都未必吸收得好,可能得個肥字,唔代表佢夠營養.反而人奶的鐵質係比奶粉少,但bb就好吸收,加埋其他天然食物,bb的營養會好d.

money,
如果你有貧血的話,可提早比matthew食多些含鐵質的食物,因為bb過了4個月會自己造紅血球,鐵質需求大了,人奶未必夠.而bb輕微貧血係睇唔出的,但會影響發展,所以可食多些其他固體食物補充,以防此問題.

bbdou 寫道:

我只去過一次健康院,見過醫生後我都唔想再見佢,對話如下:
醫:頭圍細D喎。
我:咁會有乜野問題?
醫:個頭細囉。
我:咁有乜野影響?
醫:個腦有問題囉!
我:(好緊張)有乜野問題?
醫:頭圍細個腦咪有問題囉。
跟住叫我地出返去。

之後去睇私家,佢話我bb度頭圍嗰度啱啱係凹咗,所以度起上來細DD,冇問題。


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Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

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發表於 06-8-16 08:35 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

nail :

原來bb過了4個月會自己造紅血球,鐵質需求大了,人奶未必夠.而bb輕微貧血係睇唔出的

我多謝你的意見呀!!!!!
我個b都係輕左d,有個mami都話俾d蛋黃bb食.....就無講咩原因,原來係咁 !!!!!! :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P


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發表於 06-8-16 08:59 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

文里文靜 寫道:
其實係因為Matthew仔6個月頭圍比例比佢果條線細左!
但已經正常,佢話驚matthew仔個腦唔係正常發展,
因為頭細有機會喎!

咁matthew仔食得玩得訓得,仲曳曳過人,又點會...

所以今次返去見醫生囉!

佢都有叫我煲粥,不過係因為佢叫我唔好再餵人奶,
6個月後無營養...我先火!


今日我都嘗試煲粥俾Matthew仔食!(煲梗)


Hi Money

Your bb is more than 8 months old so you can let him start having congee. You can put in yam, pumpkin, carrot, etc. These are more 'sweet', so bb will love it. You don't need to be frustrated, when you introduce a variety of natural food together with your wonderful mami milk, Matthew will be much stronger and bigger soon.

My bb is 10.5 months old and she's a big size baby. I haven't given her any formula at all. She didn't like rice cereal also. So I started giving her congee since she was 6-7 months. I don't think she needs formula at all. Now she has 2 medium size bowls of congee (with 2 vegetable and 1 meat), 1/2 a fruit and 3-5 times mami milk.

Since my bb drinks less milk and I pump/feed less, the milk may be richer in nutrient. This is not scientific; it's just my assumption. If you're a bit 貧血, you can try to stock less and just pump the amount your bb needs then both you and your bb can benefit.

Money, don't be discouraged and take good care of yourself first!

good luck!

Sue


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發表於 06-8-16 11:12 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

我地大埔的健康院又OK wow, 佢知道我BF, 好support 我, 仲又搵我返去同其他新手bf mama 交流, 傾下計.

佢地又無講 mama milk 係幾多個月之後無營養, 只係叫我記得係bb 六個月後, 要慢慢引進固體食物, 因為要俾bb更多不同的營養, 同讓bb去試固體食物.

講真, 好似我地呢d要返工既, 又唔多夠mama milk 的媽媽, 姑娘都有同我地講, 要 relax, 唔夠奶, 都唔好迫自己, 做成太大的壓力, 要做個開心mama. 唔夠就補奶粉囉, 最緊要係mama 的身心都要有足夠的休息同快樂.

而我的bb都唔係大隻仔架, 之前都有bf 佢, 頭圍都係細少少, 但姑娘話都係正常, 唔使擔心. 佢地無叫我要幫bb一定要轉去食奶粉, 都係要隨緣, 有mama milk 就mama milk 啦, 無就奶粉, 最緊要係bb各方面健康就得啦, 媽媽又開心就ok.

可能個位醫生咁講, 係衝口而出, 因為佢都可能驚bb或者係食奶方面有其他問題, 係太緊張bb情況下, 就話人奶唔夠營養, 其實我自己覺得, 有時bb真係好厭奶, 食少左都未定.


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發表於 06-8-16 12:46 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

講得非常中肯同準確, 我都相信如果攞唔同媽咪啲奶去分析, 一定有唔同既結果, 我返工前都餵咗二個月奶, 宜家都一直食奶粉, 其實只要喺食到最初生既人奶抗體, 己經好好, 之後既日子我都相信食奶粉係最好, 正如mocha所講, 奶粉既成份起碼最穏定, 如果係冰奶, 解凍既過程中抗體會死去, 所以同食奶粉相比, 可能效益仲低.

各位奶媽, 我亦無意冒犯大家, 亦只係我個人意見分享, 我亦相信初生嬰兒食人奶必定係最好選擇, 但各位亦要注恴母體本身均衡飲食, 以免bb亦會受影响.

mocha 寫道:
i am a bit direct, but i have no offence or implications. i just would like to share what i know in order to give a second opinion to the mothers who are/were discouraged by the medical staff due to the non-satisfaction result for the assessment of growth

according to my understanding after my research about bf a yr ago from the WHO website. there are 3 main points to check if a bb is suitable to be exclusive breastfed. they are;

1. the nutritional status of the lactating mothers
2. the nutritional status of the bb in terms of iron and other relevant nutrition (i forgot what are they). ...etc
3. the assessment of growth or the clinical signs of lack of iron and other relevant nutrition.

the nutritional status of the breastmilk which produced by every mother are different, it also really depends on the nutritional intake or the routine health care of every single mother themselves.

The following is just my personal point of view, not from the WHO
when compare with other complementary feedings... such as formula, the nutritional supply remains steady.. for some particular mothers with inadequate nutritional support or infants may need extra nutritional to growth .. complementary feedings is also not a bad idea...

I support bf as i am also a bf mama, however, blindly believe that bf is the best without the concern of the potential problems (such as the nutritional status of the mom, or the needs of the infant) can be dangerous. if mom insists bf without any understanding the above concerns, those moms may also have a chance to spoil their bb's.

while most of you mentioned that some medical staff may discourage a bf mom due to the non-satisfaction result for the assessment of growth
, i can consider it is a warm warning for a mother, it's time to remind her to pay more attention to her own nutritional intake or to work out the needs of the their babies, if those mothers are still going on to bf their babies.
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發表於 06-8-16 13:46 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

我BB係全人奶,但唔否認配方奶粉營養好好,不過奶粉始終係"牛"奶製品,物質份子較大,較難被"人"體消化&吸收,對腸胃未成熟嘅小寶寶黎講,係一種負荷!
而且,有大量數據指出,人類嘅敏感症,濕疹...都同BB時食配方奶粉有關,而人奶係可以減低病發機會,同時人奶有抗體,對BB生病時有好大幫助,如埋身餵哺响心理,及情緒安慰方面都有好大作用.....
不過,無論食人奶定牛奶,BB嘅健康&發展先係最重要
老虎狗 寫道:
講得非常中肯同準確, 我都相信如果攞唔同媽咪啲奶去分析, 一定有唔同既結果, 我返工前都餵咗二個月奶, 宜家都一直食奶粉, 其實只要喺食到最初生既人奶抗體, 己經好好, 之後既日子我都相信食奶粉係最好, 正如mocha所講, 奶粉既成份起碼最穏定, 如果係冰奶, 解凍既過程中抗體會死去, 所以同食奶粉相比, 可能效益仲低.
各位奶媽, 我亦無意冒犯大家, 亦只係我個人意見分享, 我亦相信初生嬰兒食人奶必定係最好選擇, 但各位亦要注恴母體本身均衡飲食, 以免bb亦會受影响.


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發表於 06-8-16 14:57 |只看該作者

Re: 衰人!激c我!無品醫生!哼...不吐不快!

老虎狗

你呢個講法, 我聽過唔少人咁講, 尤其係 d 返工的媽咪. 我都好明白返住工要 keep 住餵人奶係幾咁困難, 但唔代表餵 2 個月就已經係叫做夠. (唔好意思我比較直接, 我總係覺得 d 媽咪係安慰自己返工後唔餵人奶的借口而已. 講真你都知人奶好, 先會餵到 2 個月啦. 老實講, 呢 d 野真係一分耕耘一分收穫, 呢度好多返工媽咪真係不辭勞苦, 都係為左兒女身體可以更強)

我諗餵人奶/奶粉, 都係要時時注意 bb 的身體狀況.
但我其不同意話食頭 2 個月已經好好呢個講法.
其實, 餵母乳都話最好餵到 2 yr 甚至更長時間. 係餵母乳期間, 係有好多事奶媽們要注意, 譬如攝取均衡營養, 注重衞生咁......
如果奶媽自己乜都唔理, 又煙, 又酒...咁當然會有問題 (呢個係誇大的講法, 正如可能有 d 奶媽偏食咁)
如果以你咁講法......不如話, 有 d 人幾日唔沖涼去餵奶, dirty, 埋身食易有菌, 不如食奶粉啦....

奶粉的作用, 唔係俾 bb 係咁食, 而係於母乳不足, 或母親未能親自餵哺時, 作補充之用...係迫不得已先用的.

我都同意網上好多意見係 up 得就 up, 大家要小心, 唔好講 d 野出來靠害. 請問清楚先好講

[size=x-small]其實只要喺食到最初生既人奶抗體, 己經好好, 之後既日子我都相信食奶粉係最好, 正如mocha所講, 奶粉既成份起碼最穏定, 如果係冰奶, 解凍既過程中抗體會死去, 所以同食奶粉相比, 可能效益仲低.

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