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481#
發表於 10-7-27 19:53 |只看該作者
Dear snoopy333 & those jm’s who wonder what to eat/do for IVF,

Before IVF, eat healthy, do moderate exercises, and sleep well. Quit smoking, avoid second-hand smoke, and minimize alcohol intake. This should be a normal lifestyle everyone should adopt; the longer you can lead this lifestyle, the better your overall health (i.e. for both your cardiovascular & reproductive health).

The exercise part is the weakest link for many people. It is a little difficult to commit yourself to exercising, and even tougher to persevere. I don't know if moderate exercises can directly help fertility, but my theory is that moderate exercises improve heart and lung functions, which translate to better blood flow. During exercises, blood flows faster and helps to flush anything ‘sticky’ to your vessels which may give you clogged arteries etc when you become older. Sweating helps to detoxify your body as well. Imagine your ovaries can now receive more oxygen and be nourished, while at the same time be cleansed of any wastes. Similar will likely happen to your uterus, giving you a better lining after each period. Yes, a woman cannot increase her egg reserve, but can this improve her egg quality and can this improve the implantation environment?
Also, you will feel good about yourself after doing exercises, and this will usually translate to self confidence and emotional well-being.
So, I just can't see any harm (if no benefit), and moderation is the key.


And during the wait for bingo after ivf treatment, can you go running or swimming?
There is no evidence that these exercises are no good.
My personal view is that sitting still and doing nothing during the 2 weeks wait is impossible.
Running has the impression that you are actively shaking the embryo(s) out, right?
With swimming, I worry more about the chlorine in the pool that may seep into the uterus.
So what else can we do?
I will suggest walking, e.g. in a park; sometimes people will walk their dogs and if you like animals, this is a very good choice.
Some stretching exercises as well, because you at this moment have already read my long posting and your neck must be strained and eyes tired :)
Stretching such as Tai Chi or yoga should be mild enough.
Other small things at home, e.g. tidying up, very light house work, buying groceries, be your own cook all add up to the daily ‘exercises’ during the wait.
If you still have time after all these, relax and watch some TV.


Good luck to all jm’s.
cutecutetown


原帖由 snoopy333 於 10-7-26 17:40 發表
Hi cutecutetown,

Thanks for your advice!

- What should I do before I do ivf (e.g. 飲食, 日常生活方面) ?

- I already have the blood and sperm test report. Anymore test report that I need to do? ...


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482#
發表於 10-7-27 22:09 |只看該作者
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男爵府

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483#
發表於 10-7-28 11:11 |只看該作者
Dear dingsmama,

Thank you for your sharing and helping other jm's. Rest well tonight and I hope your operation tomorrow will be smooth & successful.

Take care, cutecutetown

原帖由 dingsmama 於 10-7-26 22:42 發表
dear ada1103,

I failed my first IVF also and I remember my doc told me back then that some people don't react well with all the medicine being used when you try to induce the eggs. Of coz some lucky ...


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484#
發表於 10-7-28 11:20 |只看該作者
Dear ABCMum,

I will "add oil" for you. How many days of injections (FSH or HMG) have you done as of today?

cutecutetown

原帖由 ABCMum 於 10-7-27 11:05 發表


Dear cutecutetown,

I had the u/s in QM this morning and told the dr about the bleeding. He said it may due to the unstable hormones level, and now awaiting for the result of the blood test. Today, ...


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485#
發表於 10-7-28 12:58 |只看該作者
原帖由 cutecutetown 於 10-7-28 11:20 發表
Dear ABCMum,

I will "add oil" for you. How many days of injections (FSH or HMG) have you done as of today?

cutecutetown


i took the first injection on 17/7, first 2 days at 450iu, then followed by 5 days at 225iu, and with 300iu from last sat till now. today is 12 days for injection and will go back to QM tomorrow for another u/s, hope they have grown up more la.

dr said may have the treatment on next monday if they continue to grow. my lining thickness was at 8mm yesterday, and dr said it will continue to grow thicker as the follicles yet to be in the largest size.

hope everything is fine and on track.

thanks for your caring and will update u tomorrow.


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486#
發表於 10-7-28 18:09 |只看該作者
原帖由 cutecutetown 於 10-7-27 19:53 發表
Dear snoopy333 & those jm’s who wonder what to eat/do for IVF,

Before IVF, eat healthy, do moderate exercises, and sleep well. Quit smoking, avoid second-hand smoke, and minimize alcohol intake. ...


Thanks for your information. It is very useful for me and all other jm's who are going to do IVF.

If my BMI (weight level) is over the normal level a little bit, is it OK to do IVF or I have to keep fit before the treatment?


男爵府

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487#
發表於 10-7-29 09:18 |只看該作者
Dear snoopy333,

Although no doctors or clinics will refuse IVF treatment to those whose BMI is slightly above normal, they will still recommend the jm's to reduce their weight. In cases where BMI is way over, medication may be prescribed.

Also note that for Asians, the 'normal range' of BMI is slightly lower than that for Caucasians. I think for us it is around 18-23 (not 100% sure).

You don't have to be fit like a Miss HK Pageant (in fact, they are too thin). Be healthy, and you need health in the long run, whether or not you have a child to take care of.

cutecutetown

原帖由 snoopy333 於 10-7-28 18:09 發表


Thanks for your information. It is very useful for me and all other jm's who are going to do IVF.

If my BMI (weight level) is over the normal level a little bit, is it OK to do IVF or I ...


大宅

積分: 4069


488#
發表於 10-7-29 16:43 |只看該作者
原帖由 cutecutetown 於 10-7-29 09:18 發表
Dear snoopy333,

Although no doctors or clinics will refuse IVF treatment to those whose BMI is slightly above normal, they will still recommend the jm's to reduce their weight. In cases where BMI is ...


Dear Cutecutetown,

Thanks for your advice!

I will try my best to be a healthy woman (or mother if i can )


大宅

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489#
發表於 10-8-2 19:48 |只看該作者
Dear cutecutetown,

It was a very close call! I was supposed to have my surgery last Thursday, but late Tuesday night, I had this very horrible pain and had to be admitted to hospital in the middle of the night. I had my surgery done then, and my doctor took out a fetus 6cm big in my left tube!! My doctor said my situation would had been very dangerous if I waited any longer. So I guess my worda for fellow jms if you're suspecting ectopic would be: seek professional advice as early as possible, and sometimes seek 3rd opinion when it's necessary. And if case is confirmed, take action quick coz ectopic could be life-threatening.

Wish everyone good luck and don't have to go through what I've gone through.

Cheers,
Dingsmama

原帖由 cutecutetown 於 10-7-28 11:11 發表
Dear dingsmama,

Thank you for your sharing and helping other jm's. Rest well tonight and I hope your operation tomorrow will be smooth & successful.

Take care, cutecutetown


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490#
發表於 10-8-2 23:36 |只看該作者
Dear Cutecutetown,

I have been failed in my 1st ivf in July, I would like to ask if it is necessary to rest for 2-3 months/cycles, or I could start it right in late August? (that mean I just take 1 cycle rest). Is it ok? Kindly advise. Many thanks.

ada1103

原帖由 cutecutetown 於 10-7-29 09:18 發表
Dear snoopy333,

Although no doctors or clinics will refuse IVF treatment to those whose BMI is slightly above normal, they will still recommend the jm's to reduce their weight. In cases where BMI is ...


男爵府

積分: 9496


491#
發表於 10-8-3 12:10 |只看該作者
Dear ada1103,

Logically you can start any time. But.... if you feel that you still haven't quite recovered from a cycle of rest, you may rest one more month. Listen to your body and mind, you know it the best in your heart.

Good luck, cutecutetown

原帖由 ada1103 於 10-8-2 23:36 發表
Dear Cutecutetown,

I have been failed in my 1st ivf in July, I would like to ask if it is necessary to rest for 2-3 months/cycles, or I could start it right in late August? (that mean I just take 1 c ...


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492#
發表於 10-8-3 13:34 |只看該作者
Dear cutecutetown,

I am now aged 38.6. After failing for 3 IUIs, I did my 1st IVF in July. With 8 days' injection a total of 1350 iu Gonal-F, 23 eggs were retrieved on 29 July, am (Day 12). On 31 July, am, Dr told us that 19 were fertilized, 17 continued to grow and were frozen on that day. All were Grade 1 or 2. She suggested me to do FET in Sept. BTW, all were fertilized thru' ICSI and sperm morphology was 9%, density was 159x10-6. My questions:

1) What are definitions of Grade 1 & 2 on that day (e.g. no. of cells, fragmentation)?

2) It is said that blastocysts have higher rate for implantation. What do u think for my case? My Dr told me to prepare lots of embryos could not survive till Day 5 after being defrozen.

3) Considering my age and embryo quality, how many embryos should I defrozen and put? I want not more than twins.

4) Dr told me that when period comes in Sept, I don't need to have blood test to identify the LH surge, but just take medication for 14 days and then do the FET. Do u have any idea what the medication is?

5) I have declined appetite, low energy level, occasional abdominal pain and low breathing in these 2 days. Are these OHSS symptoms?

Thanks a lot and sorry for so many questions.

ychoho


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493#
發表於 10-8-3 14:49 |只看該作者
原帖由 ABCMum 於 10-7-28 12:58 發表


i took the first injection on 17/7, first 2 days at 450iu, then followed by 5 days at 225iu, and with 300iu from last sat till now. today is 12 days for injection and will go back to QM tomorrow for ...


cutecutetown,

totally i got 5 follicles retrieved yesterday, but the prof said only 2 can be used. i still have hope that these 2 can be fertilised, but QM just called and said seems no fertilisation happened, and requested me to see the doctor tomorrow. seems everything is over.

i saw another thread that i am of the same age as another JM, i admired her much, and wish her all the best in the implanation.


大宅

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494#
發表於 10-8-3 15:43 |只看該作者
hi cutecutetown,

I want to eat the vitamins supplement before ivf treatment. Since I have 朱古力瘤, can I eat the following vitamins to improve egg quality?

1. Royal Jelly
2. FertiAid for women
3. Wheat Grass
4. Chasteberry fruit
5. DHEA

Thanks in advance! :)


男爵府

積分: 9496


495#
發表於 10-8-4 10:10 |只看該作者
Hello ychoho,

(1) Grade usually refers to the degree of fragmentation only. Grade 1 is none to little (~10%) fragmentation; grade 2 is ~10-25%. I know some centres also have grade 1-/grade 2+/grade 2-. As long as most of your embryos are of grade 1 or 2, you shouldn't need to worry about their quality too much.
Most embryos on day2 of development (i.e. same as in your case) should be between 2 to 6 cell.

(2) Your doc believes that your body is still the best incubator for embryos, and it should be. Since you have 17 embryos frozen on day 2, it is more sensible to just thaw 2 embryos and transfer the good one(s) on day 3. If this can't get you anywhere with 2-3 times of FET, then you can think about growing them to day 5.

(3) If you don't want more than twins, then the maximum no. of embryos you should transfer is 2.

(4) The medication may be some estradiol, later with some progesterone; taken orally or vaginally. Hopefully none or minimal injection you will need to take. The dosage will also be far less than that when you prepared for the ivf.

(5) Not sure if these are symptoms of OHSS; when in doubt with OHSS possibility, best to call up the clinic and the nurses should be very helpful. One of the more visual signs of OHSS is an increase in your waist line, or your tummy region.

take care, cutecutetown

原帖由 ychoho 於 10-8-3 13:34 發表
Dear cutecutetown,

I am now aged 38.6. After failing for 3 IUIs, I did my 1st IVF in July. With 8 days' injection a total of 1350 iu Gonal-F, 23 eggs were retrieved on 29 July, am (Day 12). On 31 ...


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496#
發表於 10-8-4 10:23 |只看該作者
Dear ABCMum,

I have worried about this scenario and warned about the cancelling of your cycle (you had odd bleeding while you were on hormonal injections). Although the time clock cannot be unwound, I suspect those eggs would not be very good anyway.

I think you may have seen your doctor today. Do not feel defeated yet, I think even given the same cycle without that bleeding would give you a different outcome. I hope your doctor will let you do another cycle (if you will consider it).

All the best, cutecutetown


原帖由 ABCMum 於 10-8-3 14:49 發表


cutecutetown,

totally i got 5 follicles retrieved yesterday, but the prof said only 2 can be used. i still have hope that these 2 can be fertilised, but QM just called and said seems no fertilisati ...


男爵府

積分: 9496


497#
發表於 10-8-4 11:57 |只看該作者
Dear snoopy333,

None of the 5 nor anything else is proven to improve egg quality.

For your general health, #1,3,4 should be ok if they are natural products. I hesitate to risk with #2 and #5.

cutecutetown

原帖由 snoopy333 於 10-8-3 15:43 發表
hi cutecutetown,

I want to eat the vitamins supplement before ivf treatment. Since I have 朱古力瘤, can I eat the following vitamins to improve egg quality?

1. Royal Jelly
2. FertiAid for women
3. ...


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499#
發表於 10-8-4 14:08 |只看該作者
Dear 我想生三個,

I am sorry to hear the news. Are you very certain about it, i.e. have you called your clinic and asked if you should continue the supporting medication (Crinone/Endometrin) or not?

In most cases, it is the embryos that are not competent. It is hard to say if this is normal or not, but this occurs quite frequently. Even in women with known fertility, they also produce incompetent embryos in ivf cycles (but perhaps with lower % of failing embryos).

It's a small OK to feel sad for a while, we all do. I also feel down whenever I hear some gorgeous-looking embryos failing to implant. After a bit of mourning, remember to stand strong and stand even stronger. Look ahead and tomorrow can only be brighter.

cutecutetown

原帖由 我想生三個 於 10-8-4 12:07 發表
Dear Cutecutetown,

My 2nd IVF failed. The period came on the 7th day after ET. This same thing happpened for the last IVF, period alsom came 7days after ET. Is it normal or reflect some kind of probl ...


大宅

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500#
發表於 10-8-4 16:05 |只看該作者
原帖由 cutecutetown 於 10-8-4 11:57 發表
Dear snoopy333,

None of the 5 nor anything else is proven to improve egg quality.

For your general health, #1,3,4 should be ok if they are natural products. I hesitate to risk with #2 and #5.

cute ...



thank you for yr advice!

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