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複式洋房

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41#
發表於 04-6-22 01:42 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

今日香港的民主是多謝港英政府昔日的培植及港人多方面的爭取, 面臨民主人權大倒退的危機,我們可以怎樣做? 只坐着說我們都比誰人?誰人?好, 人是進步的, 既然民主思想已在香港長了根, 仍有可能忘記它嗎? 我想最起碼這一代不易。 民主是有利有弊, 但大體而言是利多於弊, 看東西不只是單看目前, 及經濟便是, 還要看長久, 如當整個政府只得單一聲音的話, 不錯, 是再寧靜不過, 但「一定啱」嗎? 多些聲音有較大的機會找出較「啱」的見意....




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42#
發表於 04-6-22 04:15 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

kermit, 大家交流一下, 擴展一下思維先~ :-P

[size=small]今日香港的民主是多謝港英政府昔日的培植及港人多方面的爭取, 我是認同的, 至少英國人將香港創造了不少奇蹟及機會, 不過我有保留方面係, 香港之所以與中國有"代溝", 都係由英國一手攪成, 由少我們只知我們是"香港人", 好少提及"中國人", 而且唔知大家知唔知"界限街"有個公園, 以前英國佬插o左一個牌寫下"[size=large]中國人與狗 , 不可進入", 另外, 英國點解培育香港?? 原因係英國要收香港人稅, 曾經英國皇室內有關開支, 有部份係計算了由香港支付, 相反今天..... 我們仍要母國放水救濟.....
英國歷史, 有好多講及植民地事件, 如果你不是一個乖乖人民, 英國佬就會設計出好似當年在印度獨立的事件, 英國人最叻攪政治, 人民分化及經濟障礙, 今次香港好彩係由於中國真係好強大, 唔係咁易攪亂, 所以香港只有些微影響, 唔知當年大家有冇印象? 英國佬應允會合作辦理基本法, 但事實係拖延了很多時間, 因為他們離開, 要協助香港係冇意思, 甚至在香港作基地的"怡和集團"都搬家去星洲...... 呢d小動作可能以為冇咩影響, 其實係好嚴重的破壞......
英國人插針都好叻, 佢會有好多方式去由小將你培育, 之後教你如何攻擊, 香港有兩個女人大家可以睇番佢地o既背景, 一個係鄧蓮如, 另一位係陸恭惠, 由她們讀書至進入政治生涯的路, 雖說不太長久, 但可以看到英國人的心......

我並非保皇黨, 不過我始終係一個中國人, 團結, 信任, 溝通係好重要..... 我真係睇唔到我將失去什麼"民主"??? 以上文章全可根據資料搜索出來, 希望有機會大家實質分享~
我們應該感恩 神的話語令人清醒


複式洋房

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43#
發表於 04-6-22 12:49 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

再由頭看一次閣下所寫, 似乎好理性. 但我越看越驚. 係因為閣下到達化境, "我真係睇唔到我將失去什麼"民主"???"

如家中母親在家放完臭味後夾硬要我們做子女的說她所放是香的, 仲要我們大力索, 你話"我真係睇唔到我將失去什麼"民主"???" , 仲話隔離屋個八婆仲衰, 前日走過來痾左一地都係, 母親大人已經仁至義盡. 我冇野講.

人地走過來我地屋企, 就梗係唔會錫住呀b仔你同呀蝦頭我啦. 但讀過書o既b仔你話家和萬事興, 母親在家放完臭味後夾硬要我們做子女的說她所放是香的, 真係睇唔到我們將失去什麼. 呀蝦頭我就完全聽唔入耳.

我都知隔離屋個八婆衰, 但人地起碼都冇成村人gum殺. 反觀母親大人的臭史, 真係提起都心服口服, 心臟病發, 心驚膽顫.

註: 將人民首先當畜牲的, 是法家韓非.
前英國佬插o左一個牌寫下"中國人與狗 , 不可進入", 當然衰, 但母親大人將國綷發揚光大, 未必衰得少過英國佬.


別墅

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44#
發表於 04-6-23 04:30 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

cwcw, 其實我唔係好明呢d屎尿屁比喻, 不如搵d實證講講, 大家觀點不同沒問題, 只是對事實探討, 因為我真係未睇到我將失去什麼民主, 而且你可否分享一下你的民主角度? 係如何失去??? thx!!

我們應該感恩 神的話語令人清醒


複式洋房

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45#
發表於 04-6-23 11:43 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

mjzz, 我冇講過屎尿屁, 我只係話臭氣, 係你講先唧. (估唔到你gum 有敎養) 不過既然你都講得, 我就唔怕講.

我估你係扮唔明, 多於真係唔明.

實證: 反右, 三面紅旗, 百花齊放, 陽謀, 大鍊鋼, 文革十年, 官倒, 六四, 是但一樣都跨越屎尿屁不知多少倍. 我就唔明你點會寫得出 "cwcw, 其實我唔係好明呢d屎尿屁比喻, 不如搵d實證講講" . 係你冇讀過中三定扮理性, 將視線轉移到英國佬身上.

英國佬衰就求其去圖書館走一轉都知.

唔駛你打完我一野之後, 話如果係英國佬的話我就分分鐘俾佢隊一刀, 事後仲要扮對我好.

唔好再中傷我喇, 慳d時間搜集資料. 剩係"傷痕"都有掛鋤呀.


民房

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46#
發表於 04-6-24 16:49 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

HI cwcw,

I think your opponent has backed down. Very good reasons for him to do so. He's either a leftist or a 'left dxg'.

And what is "傷痕"? Thx for your opinion.


別墅

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47#
發表於 04-6-25 05:11 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

cwcw.... 你講"唔好再中傷我喇", 唔多明白你指中傷你d咩喎~ 對事啦~ 我引用緊全都係有根據實例, 如果講歷史, 點解唔講下d不公平條約及侵華事件? 仲有奴隸政策, 剩係怡和臭史都已經夠數....

引文: cwcw寫 "家中母親在家放完臭味後夾硬要我們做子女的說她所放是香的, 仲要我們大力索" 是否為"屁"?

另外"仲話隔離屋個八婆仲衰, 前日走過來痾左一地都係" 是否為"屎尿"?

如果有誤會, 我真係要讀多d另類詞彙, 至於教養方面, 家母都有提及"講得出怕咩認"最怕你講完又唔認, 會變成無膽匪類~
我們應該感恩 神的話語令人清醒


複式洋房

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48#
發表於 04-6-25 10:27 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

mjzz

你counterattack 得好弱. 唔想答.


Hi werwerwer,

唔好搭嘴. 否則人地話我同你係同一人就唔好啦. 由其是你得嗰兩三篇postings.


別墅

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49#
發表於 04-6-25 10:59 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

cwcw 寫道:
mjzz

你counterattack 得好弱. 唔想答.


Hi werwerwer,

唔好搭嘴. 否則人地話我同你係同一人就唔好啦. 由其是你得嗰兩三篇postings.


我仍然講緊對事.... 係事件, 唔係你~ 我唔需要去針對/攻擊任何人~
我們應該感恩 神的話語令人清醒


複式洋房

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50#
發表於 04-7-1 06:15 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

mjzz,

You frighten the hell out of me because you sound quite educated but what you see and talk about here could be convincing and believable for those who haven't learned the lesson. Personally, did you see what's there 15 years ago? Do you think it's a foreign conspiracy to topple the Chinese government? The red thing on the floor was tomato juice or red paint? The burned and blackened human shapes in the aftermath cleanup were dummies? The students there were foreign spies? The meeting between 吾爾開希and Li Peng was a fake? The storming by 吾爾開希 during the meeting was a show to fool people around the world produced by AOL or Warners Bros.? Tell me you do think so and we know you are a diehard leftist.

What I don't understand is it's been over 50 years. The Chinese governement has been very cruel to her poeple - supported by all the books, memoirs, photos, and historical documents as we may find in a library. How could people, especially Chinese ousrselves, lie to ourselves or act in such a way as those things didn't exist.

If we are lying to ourselves, who will suffer most? I have a child and what will his world be like? Will he have to go out and stand in front of the line of tanks to stop them from crushing his uni friends as we saw it on TV live, on all TV channels, 15 years back?

We are being treated badly and it seems to be going worse. Who can tell us the tide will change and what we are worrying about now will not be a worry to our loved ones 10 years later?

Why can't we wake up and wake up for our children, our flesh and blood, and hope. Why do we still have to point our finger at the nasty British Empire when our own government was 10 times worse and is still so - maybe not as bad as 15 years ago.

Read the histories around us and we'll see in WWII, the German poeple did exactly what we are doing now - lying to poeple, lying to ourselves, lying to our children and lying to our souls. What they got? Nazis. Hitler. Holocaust. Rape and plunder by the USSR Red Army. Self destruction.

Even 民主黨李柱銘是賣國賊, we have to save him. Without him, who is next? Besides, he is here to shoulder what he's been doing. If he's a politics vendor, he gets condemned and killed one day, serve him right! But we must bury him with laws, not values, just for the sake of our children. Wait until we see that he's a 王莽. The crux is - innocent before found guilty. Didn't we, a few years back, have faith in our core value - laws?

何謂資治通鑑, 一千年前我們老祖宗的書比郭末若的紅太陽最少多一點深度吧。


複式洋房

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51#
發表於 04-7-1 07:01 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?


南韓同日本, 每幾年都會有一兩次傳出有美軍強暴或非禮女性事件, 一個咁民主自由而公平o既國家, 居然多次引用國家政治力量去反對有關犯案軍人在當地受審, 相比香港中國, 大毛見小毛啦~ 中國歷史多讀一點, 會更對虛偽君子清楚一點~


mjzz

你的確要多讀一點中國歷史。打倒海瑞, 打倒孔家店, 你唔會以為係假掛? 文革死二千萬, 你唔會以為係假掛? 做mut 要將死美國佬同死英國佬擺上台黎轉移視線。


別墅

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52#
發表於 04-7-2 14:24 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

近日真係冇咁好心機打咁多字...

cwcw:做mut 要將死美國佬同死英國佬擺上台黎轉移視線

你夠講講下都會講歷史啦~ 我標題係乜先~

咁啦~ 你成日叫我讀書, 我會o既, 不過我都介紹一下"荀子"o既"性惡論"比你, 睇完再傾好唔好~

人之性惡, 其善者偽也..... 送給民主派的一句~
我們應該感恩 神的話語令人清醒


複式洋房

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53#
發表於 04-7-2 21:16 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

mjzz,

你同我都談及過去,但我望o既係將來,你望o既係以前。

標題係: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?
我答: Even 民主黨李柱銘是賣國賊, we have to save him. Without him, who is next? Besides, he is here to shoulder what he's been doing. If he's a politics vendor, he gets condemned and killed one day, serve him right! But WE MUST BURY HIM WITH LAWS, not values, just FOR THE SAKE OF OUR CHILDREN. Wait until we see that he's a 王莽. The crux is - innocent before found guilty.

o甘大隻字都望o吾倒。 真係學而不思則罔,思而不學則殆 <論語 > 。


【語冰慨】
欲說還休
卻道天涼好個秋

各界高士: o吾好怪我講爛口。


民房

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54#
發表於 04-7-2 22:00 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

o畏ah cwcw,

"欲說還休,卻道天涼好個秋 " 好似出自辛棄疾o個播。上yahoo check 過都冇【語冰慨】o既! 請指教。




複式洋房

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發表於 04-7-2 22:38 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

werwerwer

"欲說還休,卻道天涼好個秋 " 沒有用'春'一字。

【語冰慨】射<莊子> "井蛙不可以語於海者,拘於虛也;夏蟲不可以語於冰者,篤於時也,曲士不可以語於道者,束於教也。"


洋房

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56#
發表於 04-7-4 16:56 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

No matter 350,000 or 530,000 or even police's 200,000 walked out their voices, these are people's
comments. Many people even told me they didn't
go simply because it was so "HOT". I think most
of them are very depressed by our Mother.

Lee, Uncle Wah, Lau Chin Shek can be easily forgotten because they can not control our hearts
and minds. All people support China to have a bright
future with similar values and justice. (Before laws,
no one should be different) Yah, YOU, LAUGHING, SAY THAT DON'T BE NAIVE, IN CHINA WE LOVE TO
BE QUIET WE ARE TAMED NOT TO FEEL DISQUALIFIED OR HURT. DAME WESTERNER'S
HUMAN RIGHTS.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE we chinese people heard
too much of your ####s. WE deserve to have
human rights. Did you see, we have a greater
forward stepping country we had ever. Not
only YOU GOVERNMENT/GovernorS but by
all people's efforts and manoveurs, we succeeded today. Many many practical works and contributions
from all professionals all over China, but mainly
HK and the overseas. The Overseas Chinese and
students returning made a lot of contributions in
so many ways. Taiwan and HK factories give
very enlightening education to the workers.
Although they want to make money out of
these profit making activities. They know too
good of the situations. They are even learning
skinning the workers and how to play with laws.
We admit China need a place like HK to reflect
its own cruelty and injustice.

Some say why cant HK be like Shanghai, Macau
or Singapore.

I try to reason:
Vs. Macau-
Hong Kong people can gamble in Macau so that
there is no any urgent need to run a casino for
our own (except we simply open one only for the
visitors in the NT and this facilitates black money laundries)
Most HK people earns clean money. HK can' t be like Macau. None will come to visit HK if HK is just a copy of other ciities. Upholding laws make HK stand
so different and lovable at all aspects in the whole
world.

vs. Taiwan and Shanghai -
Upholding laws make HK stand OUT
very differently and lovablely at all aspects in the whole world.

Vs. Singapore -
The bright people in Singapore are actually HK
immigrants. They have their own things to worry
about. The emerging Shanghai, cheung delta cities
push it to be the last in the competitors' list.

Because we can not imprement suffage, HK becomes a common city like all other cities in China.

From newspaper, it says that Shanghai has already
over passed HK and macau in one way. One of the night clubs is run like a national enterprise keeping
over three hundred MAMASANs and over thousand
club ladies, least saying the scope of the building and their body guards.


Please everyone is talking the current China and HK.
If you are afraid of "one man one vote" YOU Must
have always benefitted from these dirty venutures.

China (and HK recently ) always becomes a place that no one can be trusted and laws only serves
the rich. IF YOU HAVE NO MONEY, YOU ARE DEAD!
(IF YOU TALK ABT D. AND HUMAN RIGHTS, YOU
ARE CONDAMED FOR THE WHOLE LIFE)

WHITE HORRORS


複式洋房

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發表於 04-7-9 09:53 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

mjzz,

等o左七日,都冇回應,即係默認扮理性,扮高深。user N64 講得o岩 --- 扮嫁姐!

請將次次posting最後兩句格言刪除,以免人o地真係以為你又理性,又高深。唔該!


別墅

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發表於 04-7-9 20:14 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

哈~ 我膚淺.... 你cwcw高深... so~

我對你不以為然.... n64已被封殺, 如果有道理有文德, 會唔會咁?

總之"假民主"實在"可恥"也~
我們應該感恩 神的話語令人清醒


複式洋房

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59#
發表於 04-7-9 22:46 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?


mjzz 寫道:
哈~ 我膚淺.... 你cwcw高深... so~

我對你不以為然.... n64已被封殺, 如果有道理有文德, 會唔會咁?

總之"假民主"實在"可恥"也~


膚淺---我冇話你係。係你自己認唔切--不過你都幾清楚自己,有自知之明---抵讚。

高深呢一家o野,我就唔敢扮,只不過為d細佬仔著想,唔想d荒謬言論攪到香港越來越衰o甘o者。

道理我就有d。至於文德,我點差都衰唔過d荒謬言論散佈者。

"假民主"實在"可恥"---認同。但連"假民主"都冇,o甘就連你我子孫都變成"可悲"。仲講屁"李柱銘是否賣國賊?" 。


民房

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60#
發表於 04-7-10 06:48 |只看該作者

Re: 民主黨李柱銘 -- 是否賣國賊 ?

mjzz 寫道:
哈~ 我膚淺.... 你cwcw高深... so~

我對你不以為然.... n64已被封殺, 如果有道理有文德, 會唔會咁?

總之"假民主"實在"可恥"也~


cwcw:
你這人也真離譜呀,竟然逼得我契大佬"bk首席pk"mjzz露出偽君子衰相,害得他要鬼鼠鼠白子在女人堆"心聲留言"尋得足夠慰藉,肯定了自已才回來...嗚嗚...你也知我這大佬一唔夠人講就龜縮/唔會回應,以留全屍,可是你卻一而再再而三的把這可憐自大的小丑出來獻世,係咪想步n64後塵?明明人地自已唔玩都俾我大佬屈到係"封殺"哈哈,契娘(mjzz娘親)個臭坑果然名不虛傳~我警告你呀cwcw咪再踢爆我地"bk首席扮高深政治評論員--奀o者易色易色"呀佢響女人堆好x有食力呀~
大佬,我聽你話嚇左cwcw喇,哈哈,好x幼稚呀你!!!
mjzzz格言: 大契弟有所為 , 有所不為 !! 大春 --- > Zebarbar Chan 細袋 --- > Zemama Chan

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