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發表於 12-8-22 17:50 |只看該作者
umama 發表於 12-8-22 17:38
The doctor at health clinic also recommend to read Dr jack Newman.
My gal is breast fed + formula milk is still below growth line. I really don't see the short term result of breast feeding. And feeling desperate too...

What remain in my mind is the fundamental : cow milk for cow, then mother milk must be for our baby. THAT'S ALL!
Think long term. There's evidence that breastfed babies are generally healthier. A lot of mothers have said here before - their breastfed children remain healthy even after weaning (as compared to other children.) So it's not only what Dr Newman's saying.

Don't lose heart.
You should seek help if needed. Lactation consultants, etc.

Also, www.kellymom.com will be able to ease your mind too, with a lot of suggestions - evidence based.




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42#
發表於 12-8-22 17:58 |只看該作者
umama 發表於 12-8-22 17:38
The doctor at health clinic also recommend to read Dr jack Newman.
My gal is breast fed + formula mi ...
總之有增長就冇問題, 每個人嘅身型發展都唔同, 唔可以賴晒落d人奶度嘅....

我囡係全人奶, 都係一直偏細粒, 但肉地好好, 好多一般bb有嘅健康問題都冇, 而且好精叻, 教佢數「1,2,3,4」,11個月已經識講「3, 4」...

肉体係我哋睇到嘅嘢, 佢体內嘅發展你睇唔到, 養育小朋友係長遠嘅事, 所以你明知人奶係好就得, 唔好因為未見短期嘅result而失望... 加上, 餵人奶唔單單係畀bb飽肚, 重有心靈上嘅慰藉.... 對你自己身体都有好處架!


教 養 孩 童 , 使 他 走 當 行 的 道 , 就 是 到 老 他 也 不 偏 離 。 (箴22:6)
Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it. (Proverbs 22:6)


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43#
發表於 12-8-22 18:28 |只看該作者

引用:Quote:Hyda+發表於+12-8-22+16:38+我有睇你

原帖由 hhpapa 於 12-08-22 發表
Thanks!

我最唔憤氣就係有D人一聽到我叫C9補奶粉就話我唔support...
其實唔係想同你掀起罵戰,不過初初開頭單睇幾行字仔就真係…我都只不過睇唔過眼有人歪曲母乳。因為見到果個post 真係睇到眼突。因為唔keep住餵就真係會停,所以堅持好緊要。不論全人奶,或半人奶,就算餵得一日都好,起碼都叫有心餵。其實你做既野唔比呢度既媽媽少,心底覺得你係一個好丈夫,好爸爸!你要同太太加油。




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44#
發表於 12-8-22 19:08 |只看該作者

引用:+本帖最後由+Bbtvsvod+於+12-8-22+16:40+編

原帖由 Bbtvsvod 於 12-08-22 發表
本帖最後由 Bbtvsvod 於 12-8-22 16:40 編輯

我係半人奶媽, 每日一定餵足3餐人奶, 但我都想講, 有D媽媽O ...
我係順產,一直全人奶,仲係在職(FT)媽媽。





男爵府

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45#
發表於 12-8-22 19:11 |只看該作者

引用:回覆+Hyda+的帖子 我係一位老師.我見大家

原帖由 nor.nat. 於 12-08-22 發表
回覆 Hyda 的帖子

我係一位老師.
Good saying!!




大宅

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46#
發表於 12-8-22 19:48 |只看該作者

回覆:Joelung 的帖子

Agree.




大宅

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47#
發表於 12-8-22 19:52 |只看該作者

回覆:Bbtvsvod 的帖子

Make sense and support you!




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48#
發表於 12-8-22 19:56 |只看該作者

引用:我覺得各人有選擇的自由,我地知道母乳有幾

原帖由 Joelung 於 12-08-22 發表
我覺得各人有選擇的自由,我地知道母乳有幾好話比佢地知,但佢地因為種種原因,最後都選擇唔係最好的都無辦 ...
Agree!




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49#
發表於 12-8-22 19:57 |只看該作者

引用:+本帖最後由+Bbtvsvod+於+12-8-22+16:40+編

原帖由 Bbtvsvod 於 12-08-22 發表
本帖最後由 Bbtvsvod 於 12-8-22 16:40 編輯

我係半人奶媽, 每日一定餵足3餐人奶, 但我都想講, 有D媽媽O ...
順產個比喻係一流!




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50#
發表於 12-8-22 20:21 |只看該作者

回覆:僅致覺得唔餵人奶都冇所謂/冇問題嘅家長--希望再三考慮

我只餵咗一個月人奶,有好多周邊因素令我結果放棄咗;唔想頼其他嘢,主要原因係我冇堅持。所以我冇資格鼓勵人餵人奶,因為我都唔成功。不過我希望各人奶媽知道,有好多粉媽其實都知道人奶係最好,佢地無俾廣告商呃,只係每人都有唔同原因去做唔同選擇;唔餵人奶,代替品只有奶粉,話之個奶粉廣告講到隻奶粉飲咗識飛都好啦~ 唔餵人奶唔代表唔愛BB,唔代表佢就唔係好媽媽。早排奶粉缺碘,有某啲人奶媽媽真係俾人有幸災樂禍嘅感覺。如果真係有咁嘅心態,就算可以餵人奶餵到超過世衛標準,餵到自然離乳,又如何?我唔會欣賞,因為有咁嘅心態已經唔配做人媽媽,唔配教育下一代。




大宅

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51#
發表於 12-8-22 21:02 |只看該作者

回覆:僅致覺得唔餵人奶都冇所謂/冇問題嘅家長--希望再三考慮

勁Like!!👍👍👍




大宅

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52#
發表於 12-8-22 23:03 |只看該作者

引用:我只餵咗一個月人奶,有好多周邊因素令我結

原帖由 TurtleC 於 12-08-22 發表
我只餵咗一個月人奶,有好多周邊因素令我結果放棄咗;唔想頼其他嘢,主要原因係我冇堅持。所以我冇資格鼓勵 ...
絕對認同,餵奶粉唔代表唔愛bb,唔代表佢唔係好媽媽。




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53#
發表於 12-8-22 23:06 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 Aurorasea 於 12-8-22 23:18 編輯
Hyda 發表於 12-8-22 11:24
其實每個家庭都有自己嘅難處,要睇自己嘅sitiuation來衡量。如果咁樣言語去同人講母乳嘅好處,反而會令人抗 ...

One common argument I hear is that "Why do breast feeders make formula feeders feel guilty? It is my choice how I feed my baby".
However, true choice exist when mothers haven been given all the options and information about the benefits, drawbacks of different methods of feeding.

But why are breast feeders and healthcare professionals, who are sharing information about the benefits of breast feeding, are often regarded as 'pushy' and 'irritating'?

Instead, why many members of public accept and even believe formula milk companies, who are just trying to make business and constantly downplay the benefits of breast feeding bombard the public with their 'IRRITATING' advertisements on TV, magazines, mum's clubs, books, gifts, 'seminars', celebrities, health clinics, internet, mother's forum, and EVERYWHERE, with pseudo science (PHD, AA, etc. ) and false information? These formula businesses spend millions of dollars on advertisement, aren't THEY THE PUSHY ONES? Yet they are the ones that create all the public scare with tainted milk (melamine), or inadequate key nutritional values (e.g. Iodine).

Therefore, we mothers should inform ourselves about the pros and cons of infant feeding. Provided your choice is fully informed, you can justify your own informed choice and need not feel guilty. If you do feel guilty, please target your anger towards the formula companies who have lied to you how formula milk is better or equal to breast milk, and used every possible method to make you give up (by saying breast feeding is always more difficult - which is not necessarily true, or you won't have enough milk - which is most of the time not true if it is properly done, or even worse that 'breast milk should be stopped after 6 months, which is a common lie they say to mothers to make them stop and change to no. 2 + formulas).
And also, blame the anti-breast feeding people including some ignorant health care professionals who discouraged and undermined your motherly instincts, and the general anti-breast feeding culture who discourages breast feeding mums (e.g. inadequate breast feeding rooms, no pumping rooms or times allowed at work, not allowed to breast feed in public).






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發表於 12-8-22 23:19 |只看該作者

回覆:僅致覺得唔餵人奶都冇所謂/冇問題嘅家長--希望再三考慮

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各位服用任何中藥前,應先向中醫師請教為宜!


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55#
發表於 12-8-22 23:28 |只看該作者

引用:+本帖最後由+Aurorasea+於+12-8-22+23:18+

原帖由 Aurorasea 於 12-08-22 發表
本帖最後由 Aurorasea 於 12-8-22 23:18 編輯
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既然粉媽認為自己既選擇無錯,點解要為人地講既嘢而動怒?




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發表於 12-8-23 00:56 |只看該作者

引用:+本帖最後由+Aurorasea+於+12-8-22+23:18+

原帖由 Aurorasea 於 12-08-22 發表
本帖最後由 Aurorasea 於 12-8-22 23:18 編輯
Becos some of the breast feeders (not all but some of them) are indeed pushy and irritating by applying their own thoughts onto the others and NOT just sharing the benefits of breast feed.

I wouldn\'t say the formula companies are \"pushy\" cos they are simply doing business. They make money and that\'s it. They spend millions of dollar to promote their product, this is called marketing and not anti breast feeding. As a consumer we have our own choice.

I\'m not protecting the formula providers, it\'s from the business point of view. After all, going for breast feed or formulas is the choice of the mother and not anyone else.




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57#
發表於 12-8-23 01:11 |只看該作者

引用:Quote:原帖由+Aurorasea+於+12-08-22+發表

原帖由 kyobi 於 12-08-22 發表
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既然粉媽認為自己既選擇無錯,點解要為人地講既嘢而動怒?
就係因為有啲人奶媽媽太偏激,唔識得去尊重人地嘅選擇。

其實好似樓主咁純粹係好中肯咁希望鼓勵多 啲人餵母乳係好值得讚賞!




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發表於 12-8-23 01:22 |只看該作者

回覆:僅致覺得唔餵人奶都冇所謂/冇問題嘅家長--希望再三考慮






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59#
發表於 12-8-23 08:17 |只看該作者

引用:Quote:原帖由+kyobi+於+12-08-22+發表Like

原帖由 TurtleC 於 12-08-23 發表
就係因為有啲人奶媽媽太偏激,唔識得去尊重人地嘅選擇。

其實好似樓主咁純粹係好中肯咁希望鼓勵多 啲人餵 ...
我好認同你講的說話,雖然我係人奶媽,但我都見過你所講的好偏激的人奶媽,有時都會覺得幾討厭;其實做媽媽的有邊個唔想將所有的最好都比自己的bb吖,但我相信亦明白,要成功餵人奶除左要有一份堅持到底永不放棄的精神之外,其實仲有其他外在的原因配合,例如屋企人的支持,媽媽要返工不便揼奶等等。

我成日都覺得成敢得失唔係最重要,最緊要係有盡過力問心無愧,凡事都唔需要勉強自己,如果有啲媽媽為左餵人奶而搞到自己精神壓力大有抑鬱,甚至有啲因為餵奶搞到同屋企人關係感情變差等等,我都會情願勸佢餵奶粉。因為有bb應該係一件開心事,唔應該變成壓力。

我喺醫院見人奶姑娘時,曾經親眼見過有個媽媽死都唔肯餵奶粉,當時佢bb已經滿月,體重比出世時輕,塊面黃到好誇張,聽姑娘講有280,差唔多要照燈;姑娘叫佢bb去兒科見醫生可能要留院,佢又係死都唔肯,因為佢要同bb一齊,要埋身餵bb。媽媽係夠奶的,只係唔識餵,餵得唔好,每次喺醫院有姑娘睇住就餵到,返到屋企就唔得,睇得出媽媽因為餵奶而好大壓力。我當時睇到覺得何必呢?難為左個bb。有時我都會諗,那個媽媽咁堅持,到底真係想比最好的bb,還是媽媽只係不顧一切地想証明自己?




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60#
發表於 12-8-23 08:22 |只看該作者

引用:Quote:原帖由+hhpapa+於+12-08-22+發表Than

原帖由 Sammyan 於 12-08-22 發表
其實唔係想同你掀起罵戰,不過初初開頭單睇幾行字仔就真係…我都只不過睇唔過眼有人歪曲母乳。因為見到果個 ...
冇駡戰咁誇呀?我只係想心平氣和討論同分享。

作為C6, 最驚聽到產後抑鬱,當見到C9無啦啦喊,怪自己,我真係驚! 想幫手,但我又冇人奶,所以都幾sad。




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