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男爵府

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6801#
發表於 25-3-10 15:38 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 cutecutetown 於 25-3-10 15:39 編輯
Lollipop78 發表於 25-3-9 18:19
Hello cutecutetown,

多謝你,因為而家係等待下個cycle放胎有點忐忑,所以如果有野做到係幫到內膜都想試 ...

Dear Lollipop78,
下個cycle即係一個新嘅周期,內膜又重新開始過,所以真係冇乜可以做。從我見過咁多唔同年紀、唔同背景嘅病人看,內膜如果係偏薄,就每次都會偏薄,通常醫生會俾多少少藥,但病人本身唔係可以靠食療就可以改善到的。而薄嘅定義又係點呢?有些醫生用8mm做標準,有些則用7mm, 不過我唔係未遇過病人係點搞都只有5-6mm,最後也是安然懷孕,而家應該抱咗B喇。
另一方面,假設胚胎本身是不正常/不繼續生長,你就算有足夠黃體酮也不可以保住什麼的。
對的,duphaston 同estrofem 應該可以令嗰啲卵泡凋謝。不過俾定心理準備你,萬一佢哋未謝哂,可能需要等多一個cycle才可放胎。如果真係咁樣,唔使担心,寧願花多一個cycle都唔好嘥咗個胚胎。
AMH方面,4.51只大概說明你嘅卵子儲備ok,所以afc有8粒都好正常。


男爵府

積分: 9490


6802#
發表於 25-3-10 15:52 |只看該作者
Pancake_Lover 發表於 25-3-10 00:56
H there,

Hello Pancake_Lover,
1. Elonva is usually used in “good or normal responder”. Depending on how confident your doctor is with Elonva and how you accept “one shot and no need to inject in 7 days”. The medicine is proven safe to use and effective in ovarian stimulation.
2. I don’t know what you mean by 口服拮抗劑, although I remember reading something related to an oral type of ovulation trigger. Sorry that I have no experience in seeing its use.
3. My clinic does PGT-A for most patients, and the majority of them have only 3-4 blastocysts. Sometimes they only have 1. The euploid/normal rate very much depends on the patient’s age, although in theory, you have a better chance of getting a euploid if you have more embryos.


大宅

積分: 1039


6803#
發表於 25-3-14 09:01 |只看該作者
cutecutetown 發表於 25-3-6 04:22
Hello sandylau_21,
取消原因就係驗血某啲指數太高,而呢「啲」指數是什麼、一種或多過一種,就真係要醫生 ...

Hello樓主,姑娘再回覆是P4 指數去到19,應該就是黃體酮?! 佢話正常是up to 15。而我平常經期頗準的,每29-30日一次,每個月都會有,亦沒有PCO

請問有咩可以讓 黃體酮快d降番低?因為feel 到體溫長期高。同埋快d黎番M?

另外下次打針有甚麼可注意?以防再次發生同樣情況?謝謝(emoji)


男爵府

積分: 9490


6804#
發表於 25-3-17 13:08 |只看該作者
sandylau_21 發表於 25-3-14 09:01
Hello樓主,姑娘再回覆是P4 指數去到19,應該就是黃體酮?! 佢話正常是up to 15。而我平常經期頗準的,每29 ...

Dear sandylau_21,
對的,P4是黃體酮。其實你一向經期準、又沒PCO的話,應該都係IVF 抽卵打過賀爾蒙,周期仍未完全復常所致。自然周期時,黃體酮會跟隨周期升跌,一般在排卵後才升高,如果之後並未有懷孕,P4自然會下降,M亦會來。但在iVF因為要谷卵而用了一定劑量嘅賀爾蒙,做完抽卵後的來經會比較「奇怪」,受了針藥影響,各人適應度與復原速度都各有不同,所以很多時醫生都會建議抽卵後等一兩個周期才安排放雪胎。因此,你也只有讓周期自然回復,沒有什麼可以令回復更快的。又或者可以考慮用人工周期,但公立醫院未必會給你安排。


複式洋房

積分: 305


6805#
發表於 25-3-31 23:17 |只看該作者
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thanks for getting back!
口服拮抗劑 = Provera
in the current cycle, i only need to have 7-8 days injection of Menopur (in last 2 cycles,i need to have 2 injections per day after day 4/5), so i am really amazed about this "new" med offered by doctor


I learned about some new lab tech for IVF, like IMSI, ZyMot, Piezo-ICSI, are they not common in Hong Kong? i briefly search online, and not able to find any clinic using it


Would u recommend back to back IVF cycle? lets say I do egg retrival in March, and do it again in May






複式洋房

積分: 139


6806#
發表於 25-4-1 17:28 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 卡小姐 於 25-4-1 17:35 編輯
cutecutetown 發表於 25-1-4 05:37
Hello 卡小姐,
成績其實很好了,只欠少許運氣。
AMH和D3FSH都係反映卵子儲備;而女性在出生起卵巢有幾多卵 ...

Hi cutecutetown,
繼我上次放完鮮胎唔成功後, 岩岩3月19號再放Day5雪胎,
係28號時係威記抽左血驗hcg, 指數得37。
係29號我用綠d(晨v) 試下, 得一個好淺好淺既控。
之後我岩岩今朝再用綠d驗, 已經變做白板, 而家等緊4月4號再番威記抽多次血.
不過我估應該都好大機會係化學左, 我呢個指數係咪屬於好低?
想請教下其實化學左有無話多數有咩原因? 同埋佢係代表都有著過床而最後唔成功定點的?


同埋因為當初全部胚胎都無做過pgs, 而家仲有2個day5胎, 1個4AC, 1個5BB。
我唸緊BB個個可唔可以解凍佢去驗,1516。
同埋仲有個問題想問, 其實如果D胎無做過PGS, 而放左3,4次到最後都唔得, 都係化學懷孕既,
咁會唔會對我身體唔好, 好似次次都用自己身體去試。所以我更加1516

唔該哂你


複式洋房

積分: 139


6807#
發表於 25-4-2 09:04 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 卡小姐 於 25-4-3 11:35 編輯
卡小姐 發表於 25-4-1 17:28
Hi cutecutetown,
繼我上次放完鮮胎唔成功後, 岩岩3月19號再放Day5雪胎,
係28號時係威記抽左血驗hcg, 指數 ...

Hi cutecutetown,
另外想問埋呢如果真係化學懷孕左, 而要去開一個新ivf 療程, 即係打排卵針, 抽卵個d,
有無話要休息幾耐?定可以等佢黎完第1次M後就開始?
另外自然週期同人工週期有無話邊個好D?
同埋唔合格既胚胎係咪一定唔可以成功順利懷孕的?

唔好意思太多野問, 謝謝你








男爵府

積分: 9490


6808#
發表於 25-4-3 17:12 |只看該作者
Pancake_Lover 發表於 25-3-31 23:17
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thanks for getting back!

Dear Pancake_Lover,
It’s ok if you want to try Elonva, especially your doctor recommends it and you are not reluctant to give it a go.
The “lab tech for IVF” are not new, and they are more or less related to sperm selection. These methods have their pros and cons in a clinical IVF setting, and they definitely carry an expensive price tag and yet may not give better results.
There’s no problem doing an egg retrieval in March and then again in May. I see it fairly often.


男爵府

積分: 9490


6809#
發表於 25-4-3 17:34 |只看該作者
卡小姐 發表於 25-4-2 09:04
Hi cutecutetown,
另外想問埋呢如果真係化學懷孕左, 而要去開一個新ivf 療程, 即係打排卵針, 抽卵個d,
有 ...

Dear 卡小姐,
HCG指數低通常都係化學懷孕,尤其係第一次驗完、隔幾日再驗時指數更下跌,那就確認為化學懷孕。醫學定義下,要超聲波看到胎囊才算有著床;化學懷孕即是沒有著床。現今似乎要令病人心中好過一點,才有「淺著床」這叫法。其實著床是一個過程,胚胎不是一碰上內膜就能「黐實」。
M來就可以再開始新一個IVF療程,冇話要休息幾耐。
自然周期同人工周期,冇話邊個好啲。
PGT唔合格嘅胚胎一般都唔會着床,又或着床之後會流產。


複式洋房

積分: 139


6810#
發表於 25-4-3 18:39 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 卡小姐 於 25-4-3 18:53 編輯
cutecutetown 發表於 25-4-3 17:34
Dear 卡小姐,
HCG指數低通常都係化學懷孕,尤其係第一次驗完、隔幾日再驗時指數更下跌,那就確認為化學懷 ...

Dear Cutecutedown,

謝謝回覆, 那想再問一下, 因為之前放鮮胎時, hcg指數完全係0, 今次第2次放, 就37指數,
咁其實今次呢個指數係代表佢有掂過下內膜? 定其實最後著床唔到既,本質37同0其實係無分別ga?
那一般hcg指數幾多為之比較理想的?
同埋化學懷孕其實對身體係咪唔會有唔好既影響的? 謝謝






男爵府

積分: 9490


6811#
發表於 25-4-5 03:45 |只看該作者
卡小姐 發表於 25-4-3 18:39
Dear Cutecutedown,

謝謝回覆, 那想再問一下, 因為之前放鮮胎時, hcg指數完全係0, 今次第2次放, 就37指數 ...

Dear 卡小姐,
0同37其實都係冇著床,不過驗孕嘅指標HCG係胚胎製造出來的,母體唔會因懷孕而釋放HCG,所以估計這次的胚胎有繼續生長,但放胎幾日後就冇再生長,可能會是胚胎本身有問題又或其他因素而令著床不成功。
視乎放胎後哪天驗HCG,實在冇話要達到某一水平才叫理想,一切都要等照超聲波見到胎兒才可作準,這大概會是踏入第6周懷孕,亦約是放胎後4星期。
化學懷孕對身體應該不會有什麼影響,可能只是M會遲咗少少來。


複式洋房

積分: 305


6812#
發表於 25-4-5 23:39 |只看該作者
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Just had my third retrievalfirst 2 time, i got 6 and 9 eggs
this round I got 15, but only 10 mature and 6 fertilised even with ICSI (age 36, AMH:1.5)
I just learned that I can do a sperm DNA fragmentation test, which is common in China but not a standard test in HK, I am planning to do it, to try to find out why the fertilisation rate is lower than my previous round (70%). Whats ur read on this?

for this round I already did a lot compared to last 2 rounds, different vitamins in doc recommended level, Chinese doc, sleep earlier and meditation ..still fertilisation is low. What else would u recommend? or is it really pure luck?
Although today is just day 1, already quite depressed for the initial result
thank you


男爵府

積分: 9490


6813#
發表於 25-4-7 17:15 |只看該作者
Pancake_Lover 發表於 25-4-5 23:39
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Just had my third retrievalfirst 2 time, i got 6 and 9 eggs

Dear Pancake_Lover,
You still have a 60% fertilization rate. You mentioned your previous round was 70%, so I guess it was like 7 fertilized out of 9?
Sperm DNA fragmentation test basically tells you how fragmented the sperm DNA is; the higher the fragmentation %, i.e. the more fragmented the DNA, the more likely to have a poorer IVF outcome. This test only tells you a fragmentation %, but it has no therapeutic value.
On top of what you have done (vitamins, sleep early, etc), I think your husband should probably put in some efforts too, especially if his sperm DNA fragmentation is high.
Although you need the egg to get fertilized to have an embryo, it’s equally important to see the developmental progress of the embryo. How did your embryos do in the past?


複式洋房

積分: 305


6814#
發表於 25-4-11 23:19 |只看該作者
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cheers for always being so comforting and insightfulwe are going to do sperm DNA fragmentation test + his DNA test (to see if we need any PGT if one day we have more than 4 x day 5 embroys)

for embroy quality, i guess u mean how many D3/D5?
first round was 1 grade 2 day 3 (6 retrieved, 1 x 1PN, 2 x MII ICSI w/Hb sperm)
second round was 2 grade 2+ day 3 (9 retrieved, 5 fertilised)
3rd round is 1 4BC and 1 3CC day 5 (15 retrieved, 10 MII, 6 fertilized, 3 good 3 poor in Day 3)


男爵府

積分: 9490


6815#
發表於 25-4-13 04:16 |只看該作者
Pancake_Lover 發表於 25-4-11 23:19
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cheers for always being so comforting and insightfulwe are going to do spe ...

Dear Pancake_Lover,
Based on the results of your previous 2 IVF, fertilization was suboptimal. Your day 3 embryos only had a grade without a cell stage, which I hope they at least had 6-cell. The latest round gave you a 4BC and a 3CC, which are not of very good quality based on grading. You may consider transferring both at the same time.
In the mean time, since your husband will get sperm DNA fragmentation test, we can see what the result may be and work from there as well.


複式洋房

積分: 305


6816#
發表於 25-4-14 23:47 |只看該作者
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All my day 3 eggs have 8 cells
my husband sperm DNA test just came out (Kudos to China clinic's efficiency...), his rate is less than 3%, which is very optimal as i see the standard is less than 30%. seems i have done quite a lot ito improve eggs quality this round and didnt see significant improvement, just a bit frustrated Likely need to do another round, this will be my last try

thanks for the suggestions of transferring 4BC and 3CC together, i likely will follow it. i guess a poor 3CC wont harm 4BC right>


男爵府

積分: 9490


6817#
發表於 25-4-16 04:43 |只看該作者
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本帖最後由 cutecutetown 於 25-4-16 04:46 編輯

Dear Pancake_Lover,
Do not get frustrated yet, keep up your good efforts (vitamins as doc recommended, sleep earlier, meditation, etc.) as these efforts can never go wrong. Add some exercises if you can, perseverance is the key; all these activities do not give you instant benefits, but they help to improve your overall health in the long run if you can be persistent.
I rarely see, if I have seen at all, a 3CC implants; suppose it would, it should not jeopardize the chance of the 4BC. We worry when people get a twin pregnancy because of the higher risk of complications; but in your case, the likelihood of getting twins from a 4BC and a 3CC is very very low.
Good luck,
cutecutetown


別墅

積分: 694


6818#
發表於 25-4-17 11:32 |只看該作者
你好!我今日植入啦!想問吓植入嘅時候醫生係咪會開電視睇到顯微鏡下面卵泡,然後會吸走咗佢再睇部細電視機會見到有嘢入咗去子宮度?因為我望住部電視機見唔到任何嘢入咗落去,之前上網睇人話佢哋植入係會見到一粒白色好似一粒米咁嘅嘢會放咗入子宮,但係我就乜都見唔到… 想問吓係咪真係會見到一粒白色嘢㗎?定係都有機會係睇唔到㗎?唔該晒你。(emoji)(emoji)(emoji)(emoji)(emoji)(emoji)


男爵府

積分: 9490


6819#
發表於 25-4-18 05:39 |只看該作者
新手爸爸01 發表於 25-4-17 11:32
你好!我今日植入啦!想問吓植入嘅時候醫生係咪會開電視睇到顯微鏡下面卵泡,然後會吸走咗佢再睇部細電視機 ...

Dear 新手爸爸01,
你所說的大概差不多了,但顯微鏡下看到的是你的胚胎在植入前的樣子,實驗室把胚胎吸進導管後再交予醫生並在超聲波輔助下把胚胎放進子宮。而你所說的電視機上應該是實時觀看超聲波,一般人未必看得懂那畫面,尤其沒人在旁解說,因為首先你也要知道在看什麼、子宮位置在哪、看不看到導管進入子宮;如果能看到導管已在子宮穩定好位置,醫生放下胚胎的過程亦只是半分鐘(或更快),可以看見導管內有一粒或兩粒比較光或比較白的「米」移動進子宮,然後可以看見醫生慢慢取出導管,而粒米仍然留在子宮內。取出的導管會給回實驗室確認胚胎有否仍留在導管中。
那粒「米」並不是胚胎,那白色的「米」其實是一個小氣泡,是實驗室把胚胎吸進導管前刻意吸的很小量空氣,因為胚胎太細了,超聲波見不到的,但可見小氣泡,所以小氣泡是一個定位指標。


別墅

積分: 651


6820#
發表於 25-5-1 20:35 |只看該作者
Hello Cutecutetown,

我已40歲了,剛開始了第一次IVF,D4 開針及照到左右各有4粒卵泡,但有粒比較大,已接近12mm,醫生開了menopur 300IU 打一星期再返睇情況。想請問如有粒比較大,會否影響其他卵泡的成長?或過熟時會唔會提早排走?因要進行PGT-M,比較擔心..

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