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61#
發表於 07-8-1 12:00 |只看該作者
Yes, elmolly, keep trying. Don't give up so soon. Remember, thing will get better and better because both you and Andrea are learning and working together. You can talk to her and tell her that if she takes the bottle and she can sleep faster. Baby can understand. It sounds silly but I talked to Spencer that he should sleep through the night and he's a good boy. Although it was so hard at the beginning, finally he could sleep longer and longer during night-time. It may be a-Q - I told myself, my baby would wake up every 3-4 hours, if he could sleep a bit more than that, it mean a bonus for my hard work on that day. Gradually, I got more and more bonuses.

If you give up, your daughter will take charge and it is so difficult for you to go back to your work schedule. If it fails today, try it tomorrow. If tomorrow fails too, try it the day after tomorrow. It will work some days and count those little success and you will feel the rewards.
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62#
發表於 07-8-1 23:32 |只看該作者
Nillie_Mami and rose_mag,

Gabriel was like this too and it took you such a good effort to make him bottle fed God, it's now August already, it wasn't so hard last time, maybe I under-estimated the her progress.

She has no problem with bottle at day time, just starting from the meal before bed, say at around 9 and at mid-night, the bottle becomes a monster to her. Should I still try out other bottle? I'm using a NUK pacifier, but she doesn't like it. How can I "teach" her to suck a pacifier instead of my nipples? She's crying badly now, 好心痛. 佢成晚都起到搵我,我試過就咁拍到佢瞓著,但一放低佢就醒,再拍到佢瞓返,佢都唔停咁札醒,瞓得好唔安樂.就算佢啜住我瞓,都好易醒,日頭同夜晚都係咁呀.我應該由佢喊幾耐?每晚都由佢喊成個鐘頭?我好似犧牲阿女黎換我晚上既自由.唉,好煩,sorry,都唔知自己起到講緊乜...


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63#
發表於 07-8-2 03:05 |只看該作者
Gabriel 最忟時, 試過抓到個頭損晒, Gabriel 唔食pacifier, 佢finally stick with his 10 fingers.. randomly.
Gabriel 最勁試過on and off 喊 (係screaming) for 2 hours non-stop, 我冇抱佢, as 我要佢知道 bed time is bed time.
到佢 almost "虛脫", 就bottle feed佢.. 佢C fing佢個頭, 避開個teats, 但慢慢, 佢會屈服.. 我流汗同眼淚唔比佢少架..
抱住餵完奶, 等落格 (30min), 先至放番落床, 開頭同床.. 到後尾, 佢知bed time 係on bottle, 冇乜喊, 就跟英姨姨落basement 瞓.. 佢而家日頭好精靈, 因為佢知可以skin to skin..
我就冇一覺會瞓得好, 一來我係"看夜".. 日頭又要skin to skin 阿仔, 二來at night 就算我 day off, 都要pump 奶去maintain milk flow..
Almost 阿仔係跟nanny 瞓, nanny day off, 阿仔至跟我瞓.. 我一樣 feed him with bottle, then 自已再去pump 奶.
一路以嚟都冇鬆懈到呢
我哋行緊嘅路.. 未必人人能夠體會.. 但總有人係志同道合..
加油呀!
原文章由 elmolly 於 07-8-1 10:32 AM 發表
Nillie_Mami and rose_mag,

Gabriel was like this too and it took you such a good effort to make him bottle fed God, it's now August already, it wasn't so hard last time, maybe I under-esti ...


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64#
發表於 07-8-2 13:33 |只看該作者
elmolly,
Don't think that you are sacrifying your daughter for your freedom. You are helping her to grow up too. If she does not have enough sleep at night, it would affect her too. Every breastfeeding mom experienced similar things but different in progress and details. My son was cranky at night time before he turned 5 months old. I needed to go back to work when he's 4 months old and it gave me such a hard time to calm him at night-time. After I breastfed him skin to skin, I supplemented with bottle so that he could be full. However, he might be too tired or whatever other reason, he usually cried afterwards. Sometimes, he could cry for almost 2 hours. What I could do was holding him and whispering to him, singing to him. Sometimes, I was also exhausted and cried together with him. But, I believed that we could make it. I tried to give him pacifier (it did not work all the time) and he did not really like his fingers (he put his fingers into his mouth only when he's teething). Finally, I gave him a small blanket to lean on which made him feel safe. Now, he needs the blanket to sooth him to sleep. I give him different blankets almost everyday so that he won't stick to particular one and we can wash them in turn.

Baby sometimes can be more stubborn than you think. But, you should understand that you need to help her to develop a routine so that both you and her can have enough rest. Remember only a happy mom can raise a happy kid. Loving a baby does not mean that you have to sacrifice your health. Only a healthy mom can bring the happiness to her baby. You have the full support from a lot of the BK moms here.

[ 本文章最後由 rose-mag 於 07-8-2 13:35 編輯 ]

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65#
發表於 07-8-4 01:04 |只看該作者
Nillie_Mami and rose_mag,

Andrea is doing much better this two nights, only around 30 mins cry, I hope it will get better and better. 我見佢好d先有心情再返黎搵你地,因為我真係好feel guilty,一天黑就好驚,老公直情話我一開頭就唔應該埋身餵:-(

Now I need to move on to next step, to store milk. Nillie_Mami, I've read part of the pages from 0701, wow, you are so tough! 比著我真係跳左樓好耐,見你而家咁開心,完全想像唔到你生完Amanda時有咁嚴重既PPD.

I have many questions to ask:

1. you have mentioned that we shouldn't pump for over 20 mins, but every time I pump, it takes me at least 45 mins, only 3 oz in average. How can I make it faster and have more milk? I can only pump 3 times a day now, all at night time, like every 3-5 hours, depends if someone can look after Andrea for me. I got around 10 oz a day only, but Andrea is taking 7oz per meal... how can you have 9oz each time?

2. what's Nursing mother capsule and Mother's milk herbal tea? can they really help?

3. if I skin to skin Andrea, it can last for 3 hours if she drinks 45-50mins, but she always only sucks for like 10 mins or so in the afternoon, sometime (most of the time actually)when she's too sleepy then falls to sleep like after 5 mins and sleeps on my arms for 30 mins then wakes up and another 10 mins and then very fussy afterwords, is it because the milk from bottle comes must faster than my breast?

4. you said that BF babies should have at least 1 poo poo a day, I've read from a book that fewer bowel movements is because babies get older and need more food so bodies digest more going in, resulting in fewer by-products, is this true too? Andrea's poo time is still not stable yet, can be once every 4 days or 2 conservative days. I have already eating much more vegetables and fruits, but it's more waterly now, what should I do?

5. Nothing to do with BF, just that whenever Andrea sleeps, she'll make a big cry, evening for an afternoon nap. If she sleeps without a big cry, then can only sleep for like 30 mins, what is she being like this and anything I can do to make her sleeps better


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66#
發表於 07-8-4 12:34 |只看該作者
原文章由 elmolly 於 07-8-4 01:04 發表
Nillie_Mami and rose_mag,

Andrea is doing much better this two nights, only around 30 mins cry, I hope it will get better and better. 我見佢好d先有心情再返黎搵你地,因為我真係好feel guilty,一天 ...


elmolly,
It's good to see a little progress. My husband said similar things when our baby was so fussy and kept on awakening and crying at night. He even said that I insisted on everything without discussing with him. He felt that he's out of the game. I was so mad at the beginning and he thought that I have PPD. He talked to the doctor and wanted to check if I need medication. Finally, I sat down with him and set up different plans. We tried different options - purely bottle feed at night with breastmilk; purely bottle feed with formula; bf + bottle, etc.. With try and error, as well as Spencer grew older, he started to sleep thru the night. I felt the achievement and became happier. My hubby then felt relieved. So, don't give up and don't put all the burden on yourself. Talk to your husband and get him involved in the experience so that he can understand more why and what you are doing.
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67#
發表於 07-8-4 14:34 |只看該作者
1. you have mentioned that we shouldn't pump for over 20 mins, but every time I pump, it takes me at least 45 mins, only 3 oz in average. How can I make it faster and have more milk? I can only pump 3 times a day now, all at night time, like every 3-5 hours, depends if someone can look after Andrea for me. I got around 10 oz a day only, but Andrea is taking 7oz per meal... how can you have 9oz each time?
when you prolong on pumping, your breast took the wrong message.
you only wait for 1 let down, then you stop, as your breast size is limited, no matter you pump 1hours non-stop, my dear.. your breast need a break to re-store milk.
you only pump and stop when you got your 1 st let down, let your breast rest for 3-4 hours, then pump again, between that, drink lots of fliud.
that is what I am doing.

2. what's Nursing mother capsule and Mother's milk herbal tea? can they really help?
you can order them online. very popular.. the nursing capsule I took .. is from enfamil. the mother's milk herbal tea.. I only took them at the first week after Gabriel's born.. work very well .. my BK friend sent it for me from N.Z.
now I am taking Omega 3+9, plus DHA. (don't buy those with Omega 6).. it helps me stay away from milk duct clotting.
3. if I skin to skin Andrea, it can last for 3 hours if she drinks 45-50mins, but she always only sucks for like 10 mins or so in the afternoon, sometime (most of the time actually)when she's too sleepy then falls to sleep like after 5 mins and sleeps on my arms for 30 mins then wakes up and another 10 mins and then very fussy afterwords, is it because the milk from bottle comes must faster than my breast?
as I told you, that is bad habit, if you wanna fix it, change your feeding habit now. that is not healthy.
even you call L.L.L. they are going to tell you the same thing. you know what you have to do.
4. you said that BF babies should have at least 1 poo poo a day, I've read from a book that fewer bowel movements is because babies get older and need more food so bodies digest more going in, resulting in fewer by-products, is this true too? Andrea's poo time is still not stable yet, can be once every 4 days or 2 conservative days. I have already eating much more vegetables and fruits, but it's more waterly now, what should I do?
BF baby's stool are watery than formula baby.. you will not see formed stool from BF baby. because the water ratio in BF is very high, after infant digested the BF, there should have a lot of water left in the system, so when they pass stool.. the stool still very wet.
the book is right (part of it), but then when infant starts solid food with all fibre intakes, there should not be a reason to have constipation or hard stool or fewer formation of bowel.
Gabriel .. still 1 in 2 days, to 3 times a day.. depends on my working schedule, we found out that if I need to work a few nights strict. Gabriel will have less bowel movement.

5. Nothing to do with BF, just that whenever Andrea sleeps, she'll make a big cry, evening for an afternoon nap. If she sleeps without a big cry, then can only sleep for like 30 mins, what is she being like this and anything I can do to make her sleeps better
she needs time to get used to it. it takes time.. you just need to relax.. Andrea is not a computer program, she will not do everything that you "enter" into her mind.

Plus.. agree with Rose-meg, you need to let your hubby to involve to the infant care.
he is so selfish to say that.. chinese guy..
if he believe that you did not do the best way, ask him to take care of Andrea at night, let he try how hard it could be.


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68#
發表於 07-8-4 23:46 |只看該作者
hey you all, thanks for your support!

today I needed to go out with hubby so dropped down Andrea with 99, however she kept looking for me and crying non stop for 2 hours. finally I needed to 放抵晒乜都唔理飛的趕返去,4個人就認人拿? I'm worried that I can't go to anywhere without her, how can I go back to work

rose_mag,

my hubby helped me to feed the night meal in the first month, he thinks it's easier to feed with bottle all the way and if we did it, then we wouldn't need to face the problem now

Nillie_Mami,

well, only 1 let down for pumping, then will be very little milk? there's usually 2-3 let downs when I pump, but takes long. sometime it take so long for the milk to com out, it can take over 5 min for the first drop! so what's the proper way to pump milk?

I found the herbal tea, how many times I should take? actually still have many questions, but too tired, will ask again
tomorrow hopefully...


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69#
發表於 07-8-5 02:25 |只看該作者
原文章由 elmolly 於 07-8-4 23:46 發表
hey you all, thanks for your support!

today I needed to go out with hubby so dropped down Andrea with 99, however she kept looking for me and crying non stop for 2 hours. finally I needed to ...


elmolly,
Yes, baby recognizes mami at the very beginning. But, baby needs to grow up too. So, that's why you need to get more people involved in babycare so that Andrea can realize that she can stay with your 99 or C6 and be safe. It's a matter of security. Spencer is 17 months old, he still looks for me when I'm not around and looks for daddy when he's out. He started doing that only to me when he's a few months old. But, you need to learn to relax and it just takes some time for Andrea to get used to when you are not around. One day, you need to go back to work and you cannot rush back from your workplace to calm her down and Andrea has to be babysitted by your 99.

My husband took care of Spencer for only 3 days and he thought that I was still on maternity leave for a few months so he can let me take care of Spencer at night. But, the reality is that I also did not have enough sleep and baby cries for reasons which we may not know no matter what. Sometimes, just a badly wrapped diaper can make the baby cries for hours. You need to tell your husband that you also need rest so that you can recover and then you can feed your baby good. Well, it does not mean if you start bottle feeding at the beginning can stop Andrea from crying at night. It's not 100% true. Spencer took both skin to skin and bottle from day one but he still cried at night. It's just a learning process and by try and error that you can know what fits the best for Andrea. So, let you hubby also get involved, says at least when he's off from work so that you can rest. My hubby volunteered to take care of Spencer when he got off from work so that I can have a nap before dinner and I took care Spencer at night so that he could sleep (because he's doing work in the field, sleep is very important for him to stay alert from danger). During weekend, we take turn to take nap with Spencer.

Keeping trying and I believe that everything will get better and better.
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70#
發表於 07-8-6 01:11 |只看該作者
rose_mag,

I went out with my hubby together yesterday, my mom's leg got problem (I live with my mom indeed), so we had no choice but to drop down Andrea with 99 lor ... surprisingly, my hubby is more willing to help after yesterday's incedent cause my 99 kept saying that Andrea is so attached to me that I can't go out anywhere, then I replied her that it's good enough to let me have a good lunch, so he was more helpful last night.

Tonight somehow my hubby rocked Andrea to sleep but she woke up immediately when he put her down to her own crib, I asked him to bring her over to my mom's room but he refused, he's worried that this may wake her up. Now she's on our bed again, hubby said he'll sleep in the middle to separate us but he's a deep sleeper and I'm afriad the smell of the bed will make her looking for me more frequently and will waste all our effort in the past few days, God, I'm so worried


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71#
發表於 07-8-6 20:48 |只看該作者
Nillie_Mami,

My mom's leg got problem and needs to be hospitalized for at least a week's time, what should I do with Andrea's sleep? It's going crazy here with all the housework and the clinging baby, I don't even have time to pump


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72#
發表於 07-8-6 22:07 |只看該作者
原文章由 elmolly 於 07-8-6 01:11 發表
rose_mag,

I went out with my hubby together yesterday, my mom's leg got problem (I live with my mom indeed), so we had no choice but to drop down Andrea with 99 lor ... surprisingly, my hubby ...


elmolly,
Hey, it's good that your husband volunteered to help. It's a good start! You can try to sleep with Andrea's blanket for a few nights and give it to her when she is going to sleep. Then, she may recognize your smell and see if she can sleeps without waking up. I tried this before and Spencer could sleep longer. But, sometimes, some babies are just light sleeper and they can be easily awakened for just a light movement. So, the only way is to keep trying. Now, Spencer still like to look for me and my hubby if he wakes up in the middle of the night.
Take it easy to the housework. After I have Spencer, I'm never have a neat room or a nice kitchen. His toys spread everywhere in our home. And, there are always chords waiting to be fixed. Take care yourself and Andrea first. Ask your hubby to help on the housework.
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73#
發表於 07-8-7 04:20 |只看該作者
elmolly,
4個月大.. BB可以自己玩一陣.. 唔駛100% 要人抱住架喇.. 放佢落play pen, or floor mat 喥, 俾toys distrack 佢..
我開頭pump 都係咁, 頭2-3個月, 1次let down (and maximum 15 min) 都係得幾安士.. 但當你build up good credit, round the clock 咁pump and skin to skin, should be OK..
因為你巳錯4個月.. 你要繼續咁pump 45 min 落去, 還係改正過嚟 (pump 15 min 等1個let down 就停, then 飲多啲荳奶同湯水, then pump 3 hours later).. 決定權喺你手.. 咪我真係唔知點幫你.. 已經成個月喇.. 你要諗吓你要放棄還係繼續? 要繼續嘅話係照舊stuggle 還係試新方法..
BB照舊返你媽咪房瞓, 你過去陪佢, as 你老公日頭要返工

morning, BB 醒, 你skin to skin, then 放佢去play pan/ floor mat之類嘅地方.. first, 洗, 烚bottle, then prepare your breakfast, then same time, wash your laundry.
after your breakfast, 帶BB去買餸, then 返屋企餵下一餐. BB去瞓, 你就"浪"衫or put clothes into drier. morning break meal
BB醒then, 同BB玩半粒鐘.. also lunch, set BB sit next to you, prepare lunch for yourself and eat lunch.
then 下午煲湯, 洗定米.. skin to skin 完 就執屋, BB in bed 時就拖地.. or if she is awake就俾toys distrack 佢, then 同佢沖澡, skin to skin then 收衫, 煮飯..
到老公放工就 食飯.. then 老公睇女時, 你咪洗碗, 自已沖涼,
then, 到老公沖涼, 你咪read a bed time story to Andrea, set her up.. to bed..
我以前日日都係咁, 到Amanda 2 歲至"luck"難..


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74#
發表於 07-8-7 13:38 |只看該作者
rose_mag,

you share the same room with Spencer now? maybe I'll try with a towel to Andrea.

Nillie_Mami,

I want to correct my pumping habbit if possible, cause when I go back to work, I can't effort 45 mins for 1 pumping. So from now on I only pump for 15 mins each time no matter how much I get? As time goes by, will the let-downs come sooner and closer b/w each?

These 2 nights Andrea sleeps with us, with her dad in the middle, she woke up after 3 hours in the 1st night then 6 hours last night. If I accompany her in my mom's room, I shouldn't skin to skin then? She only let me bottle feed her for the last meal

Nillie_Mami, Andrea doesn't sleep during the day even if I bottle feed her or just usually 30 mins, and she'll lose patience after 15 mins with the toy and scream again...


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75#
發表於 07-8-7 21:33 |只看該作者
I hate the new bk.. my message delete again!


what ever..
elmolly,
right, even you stay at the same room with Andrea at night, you bottle feed her. if she cried, offer it later, she will learn that she needs to take bottle at night, she will cry non-stop for a few nights, but then she will learn that you won't skin to skin her at night.

I only pump 10-15min .. or the first let down.. see which comes first.
like last night, 3am.. I woke up and pump 15 min, with no let down, then I stopped, I know that I don't have extra fluid to produce milk, so I went and get a box of soyamilk, drink it, with water, and went back to sleep.
2 hours later, I feel engore, and I went to pump milk, with left side 7.5oz, and right side 5.5 oz.. you see.. we won't have a fix schedule.. we are flexible. and guess what, Gabriel woke up 1.5 hours after I pump..
I gave him a bottle 3oz.. then skin to skin.. do you believe that I still have a let down for him.. so he is so happy.. when the let down comes, he can feel it and suck very very fast..
Drink a lot of fluid and eat rice.. for me, it works very well..
If you plan to return to work, consider buy the double electric pump. I don't use Manual single pump no more.. waste time plus waste my let down on the side which I am not pumping. as when let down comes, both breasts leak together.
since I use electric pump after my 1st month.. I found that it is the best thing my hubby bought for me since we get marriage.. (hee hee.. better than my car and diamond ring.. ha ha )

Medela pump in style advanced.. really a perfect product for working mom.. I recommend it.

Remember feed yourself up with food and fluid between pump.. as you need to be a complete pump mom when you return to work. you need to start it now..
you will then skin to skin only after work at weekday, and skin to skin sometimes at weekend day time..
原文章由 elmolly 於 07-8-7 12:38 AM 發表
rose_mag,

you share the same room with Spencer now? maybe I'll try with a towel to Andrea.

Nillie_Mami,

I want to correct my pumping habbit if possible, cause when I go back to work, I c ...


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發表於 07-8-7 21:54 |只看該作者
elmolly,
I put Spencer's crib in my bedroom so we can check him when we wake up in the middle of the night and see if he still has his blanket on. Even though he's now 17 months old, he sometimes cries or wakes up at night-time. He wants to go sleeping with us but usually, we tell him to go back to sleep by himself. Sometimes, he does but not all the times.

Agree with Nillie, there is no schedule for pumping, it depends on the baby's eating time. It's very amazing, I usually felt engored when Spencer was about to eat. If I started leaking and Spencer was still sleeping, I would pump and put the milk in the refrigerator. The case was similar to Nillie. Yes, I also would eat and drink a glass of milk if I felt my stomach empty. I would never starve myself when I was a pumping mom hence, I had at least 1 let down every pumping (sometimes 2 but the 2nd one is lesser). Sometimes, I even ate when I was pumping. So elmolly, you may want to try to be flexible and see how it work for you.

My hubby requested to formula feed Spencer before we went to bed, he believed that formula is more filling and he might be able to sleep longer at night. I was not willing to do it at the beginning because I wanted to be a 100% bf mom. But, the reality was that I did not have enough milk, I let my hubby try this way and it worked good for Spencer. He slept a little bit longer. I don't mean that you should try this way, it's your option but you can see that sometimes, we need to be open-minded and flexible. Keep your work.
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發表於 07-8-8 01:27 |只看該作者
Nillie_Mami,

ok, so when I pump and if there's no let down in 15 mins, then I should stop anyways? if I still feel engored after 15 mins, should I stop it? because even I didn't skin to skin or pump for a day, it still takes me over an hour to feel that my breasts are emptied. sometimes it takes 5-10 mins for the first drop of milk, or 要隔一輪d奶先出得順,所以要好耐.有時好耐無skin to skin,泵完都仲有d一舊舊,要阿女先啜得走.

does baby like let down or only Garbiel does? I've read it from BK that it will choke baby, is not true then? can it be the cause that Andrea doesn't eat good with skin to skin in the afternoon because there's not enough milk?

wow, can I tell your hubby that the best gift you have from him is the double electric pump? he'll feel great to have such a good wife

I'm using Ameda's double pump since Andrea's 2 month's old. I was using Avent's manual pump and it took forever, so I got Amdea aferwords. I tried Medela mini, it hurt so much, so I have no confidence with this brand any more.

fluid and rice, I'll work on it, I didn't drink milk but soya bean milk 2 cups a day, is it ok?

rose_mag,

Andrea hates her crib! it's also in our room but whenever we approach it, even when she's sleep, she cries. We are going her formula at night, but it doesn't guarantee a longer sleep, it varies from 3 hours to 7 hours


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elmolly,
你大肚時有冇上產前講座??
我終於知你做乜pump 15 min 都冇奶..
Andrea 媽: 你知唔知你嘅milk duct clot 晒, therefore pump 唔出, Andrea 又食唔飽??? 泵極冇奶又有硬塊.. 你唔痛嘅咩? 咁谷法你都冇乳腺炎, 你真好彩.
你要熱敷, massage 之後至餵人奶.
你可以話我知你有冇round the clock pump 清奶?
你suppose skin to skin every 3 hours, 之後要pump 清嗰邊breast, 你冇可能1日都冇skin to skin or pump 奶呢... 咁會令你自己收奶架.. if 你plan 咗BF, even 去街冇帶Andrea, 你都要帶 pump 出街round the clock pump 架..
from now on, about 3 hours pump 1次, even at night. 1曰pump 6-8 次... as anyway, Andrea 係bottle BB 多..

奶泵pump奶 唔痛.. 好老實講.. stimulate 就會唔夠.. 我開頭用medela 都痛, 過咗1個月.. 巳習慣, then increase個suction level, now, 我用maximum suction, it takes me about 2 mins to have my let down, about 10 min 泵清

BB會學識catch up let down (我講嘅let down 唔係你嗰e種ngorement 之後嘅let down, 你啲谷.. 啲奶好急, BB 緊係choking 喇) 我嘅let down 只係有5-6條小奶柱, 流得俾滴出快啲.. if engorement 時, 我會有10幾條奶柱"標"到出嚟.. Gabriel 會推開我唔食同大喊架.. 但so far都係2,3次.. as 我唔會俾自已谷奶得太厲害, 一feel 到脹同小小硬, 我一定放低手上工作去pump 奶, at home.... 通常因為Gabriel 喊, 我就會谷谷地..especially about 3 hours.. time to feed 囉..
咁咪捉住阿仔要佢skin to skin ... as this is an order!!

我咁耐以來 milk duct 塞過2次.. Gabriel 咪做渠王去通渠咯! certainly if you pump and skin to skin round the clock.. plus 食nursing cap/ nursing herbal tea/ omega 3+DHA, EPA cap, 都可以prevent 乳腺塞架
原文章由 elmolly 於 07-8-7 12:27 PM 發表
Nillie_Mami,

ok, so when I pump and if there's no let down in 15 mins, then I should stop anyways? if I still feel engored after 15 mins, should I stop it? because even I didn't skin to skin ...


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發表於 07-8-8 13:06 |只看該作者
Nillie_Mami,

Sorry that I sound stupid ops:" /> you are right, I didn't attend 產前講座 about BF, only the very general one for baby care.

其實唔係成日硬塊,係有時由evening開始,咁就淨係靠pump,但成日都唔清所以有時會有硬塊,要阿女先攪得掂囉.我出街usually go with Andrea but 無帶pump, but even goes with Andrea, it's hard to find a proper place to skin to skin, sometimes I'll skin to skin her in the car but she usually falls to sleep very soon if we are on a vechicle.

even when I feel 脹 and go pumping, the time still varies from 20-40 mins, my milk not necessary comes faster

I don't pump now at day time, at night, I'll pump 2-3 times, usually between 4-6 hours as Andrea only wants me at night, sometimes can't even finish my dinner. so if I pump every 3 hours from now on, still 15 mins each time? for 2 sides or just 1? 3 hours the whole day and night?

In this case, should I change my pump then? I'm taking DHA, nursing herbal tea now, is it better if I take Omega 3 and nursing cap? It seems like all wrong with me for my BF... it's now already 4.5 months but I still got so many mistakes + problems, how can I move on...it's really tired, I'm not having enough sleep and got many "飛滋" in my mouth, still need to eat for the milk production :-(

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原文章由 elmolly 於 07-8-8 13:06 發表
Nillie_Mami,

Sorry that I sound stupid ops:" /> you are right, I didn't attend 產前講座 about BF, only the very general one for baby care.

其實唔係成日硬塊,係有時由evening開始,咁就淨 ...


elmolly,
If you have milk duct clots, you need to have have press before pumping. When you breastfeeding, try to massage the breast and try to pull (not hard) the milk duct towards the direction of the nipple and let Andrea to suck. My previous ob taught me and it worked for me to clear duct clots. And she also said that the best thing is let the bb to suck more.

You said that your milk flow starts after 20 mins of pumping. Would it be the power of the pump is not strong enough? Are you using an electric pump or a manual pump? Manual pump usually is not that strong enough. For electric pump, you should adjust the power and your let down can be faster with higher power. Honestly speaking, it was painful and uncomfortable at the beginning but after you get use to it, it won't hurt that much. The good thing is if you use a higher power, you can pump faster and managed to keep the pumping time short. When I have maintain my milk flow, I only pumped for 15 minutes with the maximum power and I already have at least 1 let down. If I pumped 5 more minutes, I might have another let down but the volume was very little. So, I rather just skipped it unless my milk supply was running low.

You have to sleep more, keep a healthy diet and relax. Andrea drinks your milk. If you cannot maintain a good health, she's not having good nutrition too. Well, it's up to you to continue bf or not but breast milk is always better than formula. If you start 100% formula on her, you should expect even harder bowel movement for her and drying up milk is painful too. It took me over 1 week to have my milk dried and my son was so fussy when I started weaning him. Don't feel guilty if you want to give up but I would recoomend you to try a little longer until Andrea is 6 months old.
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