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pyjess


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如: 7點起身, 10-12, 15-17 NAP, 22 NIGHT SLEEP

時間表不對, 未需要睡要他睡當然不肯, 她"電容量"比以前強了, 可連續運作3小時了
但太累, 小朋友皮質醇過高, 也是睡不了的; 最近我帶孩子去游水, 誤了午睡時間, 於是午睡只可以不足一小時, 他起床時當然大哭, 最煩是他晚上明明累也睡不了, 在床上個多兩個小時才終於睡著

所以, 未必完全與她病過有關, 而是她長大了

每天, 每次睡的COMFORT ITEM要相同/相似, 否則孩子半夜醒來, 會不知你要她睡

工人放上床無問題, 只你放上床有問題, 即是她"蝦"你, 若她已病好, 狠心罷, 總好過她睡不了

未滿3歲, 應該不會有夜驚這問題, 她半夜醒, 多是入不了下個睡眠CYCLE....
如果天空總是黑暗的，那就摸黑生存；如果發出聲音是危險的，那就保持沉默；如果自覺無力發光的，那就蜷伏於牆角。但不要習慣了黑暗就為黑暗辯護；不要為自己的苟且而得意；不要嘲諷那些比自己更勇敢熱情的人們。我們可以卑微如塵土，不可扭曲如蛆蟲 - 曼德拉
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我看過每個孩子都能好好睡覺，文中說1.5 歲小睡下午一覺，我今日試一試吧！因為她心野想玩，一回房就發爛。如此情況需要安撫她嗎？工人會同她玩一陣之後才帶她入房傾偈，以前半小時訓現有要1小時。怎樣安撫她？

如此歲數B會發惡夢嗎？

昨晚從新train,要我看著她，她才安心，她企床邊不肯臥低，有乜辦法？花20分鐘她臥下冷靜了，差一點睡著，她由於累得很發爛，忍耐中希望她重新適應吧！
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唔好意思, 完全睇唔到新post...食post食到呢~

如果天空總是黑暗的，那就摸黑生存；如果發出聲音是危險的，那就保持沉默；如果自覺無力發光的，那就蜷伏於牆角。但不要習慣了黑暗就為黑暗辯護；不要為自己的苟且而得意；不要嘲諷那些比自己更勇敢熱情的人們。我們可以卑微如塵土，不可扭曲如蛆蟲 - 曼德拉
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無論係工人定係邊個, 總之睡前指定動作(例如講個故事便睡) 都要一致; 就算將來論及管教問題, 每位照顧小朋友O既成年人都要一致做法
如果天空總是黑暗的，那就摸黑生存；如果發出聲音是危險的，那就保持沉默；如果自覺無力發光的，那就蜷伏於牆角。但不要習慣了黑暗就為黑暗辯護；不要為自己的苟且而得意；不要嘲諷那些比自己更勇敢熱情的人們。我們可以卑微如塵土，不可扭曲如蛆蟲 - 曼德拉
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你很怕孩子哭吧!

你愈怕, 她只會愈哭得久, 愈哭得狠; 除非有唔舒服的地方, 否則她哭你也不用怕; 發爛?! 你愈怕, 她愈發爛, 這更不是你安慰她的時候
當然, 你必須有合宜的固定時間表, 加上提早告訴她, 過幾多分鐘要瞓喇, 報時將在30分鐘前, 15分鐘前, 5分鐘前, 3分鐘前, 及1分鐘前做....做得多了, 可減少報時次數

根據書上說, 發惡夢, 夜驚, 夢遊通常會在3歲以後出現; 我孩子的第一次發惡夢在最近, 即3.5歲出現, 而且近天光時發生, 正常來說, 將要睡醒, 較易發生EYE RAPID MOVEMENT, 就是發夢
如果天空總是黑暗的，那就摸黑生存；如果發出聲音是危險的，那就保持沉默；如果自覺無力發光的，那就蜷伏於牆角。但不要習慣了黑暗就為黑暗辯護；不要為自己的苟且而得意；不要嘲諷那些比自己更勇敢熱情的人們。我們可以卑微如塵土，不可扭曲如蛆蟲 - 曼德拉
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U mean crying control if she is yelling? Now I change to her sleeping schedule is much more better:

8:00 milk with bread & play
11:00 rice
12:30-15:00 nap
15:15 shower & tea
16:30 fruit
18:30 dinner and play
9:30 milk
10:45 sleep ( always wake up scary at 1:00 am and shocking, 2:00 sleep again)

As u suggest that eat, play and sleep as routine cycle, but quit difficult to apply after lunch and last milk at night. Also sometimes she is very sleepy after cool down. But I take her back on bed after lunch and last milk immediately, she want to walk ......my daughter know her schedule clearly, I give her sleeping signal before sleep ( comfort item, lullaby, say goodnight) 心野唔想訓 even sleepy.
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I saw book regarding to 夜驚，all symptom is matching. How to make her feel peaceful and sleep again as this situation ? I am really exhausted because need hug her on my shoulder and feel my heartbeat as 1 hour, then lie down on my bed and sleep with me. Otherwise vomit and shocking more than 2 hours at mid night
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有何特徵呢?
每個孩子也可好好睡覺, 有說明如何處理夜驚的
而且處理夜驚, 應該是不理她, 而不是安慰她, 你愈安慰, 她只會愈驚

所以, 她真是夜驚嗎?
如果天空總是黑暗的，那就摸黑生存；如果發出聲音是危險的，那就保持沉默；如果自覺無力發光的，那就蜷伏於牆角。但不要習慣了黑暗就為黑暗辯護；不要為自己的苟且而得意；不要嘲諷那些比自己更勇敢熱情的人們。我們可以卑微如塵土，不可扭曲如蛆蟲 - 曼德拉
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Hello PYJESS I have a question about baby sleep what do you think of our sleep habit & routine?

Me and my husband both have to work full time and early.
My baby girl is 7+ months old , full breast fed, started on solids.
We leave home early and come back late, therefore our baby we keep her awake so that we can have some family time when we come back.

~7am wake up (sometimes she'll wake up around 6)
~10 am sleep (for 1 - 1:30H)
~1-2PM sleep (for 1 - 1:30H)
~4-5PM sleep (for ~1H)
(note I use ~ meaning her nap time is not strict, with some flexibility, depending on family outing and my baby's tired signals)
Night time sleep at 9-9:30pm (Strict)
Her last feeding milk will be around 8:30PM

She can sleep from 9PM till next morning. Occasionally she needs to be fed anytime from 2am - 5am, but after that she can go straight back to sleep. (I suppose that may be due to growth spurts, or days when she got too much activites during day time).

During the day, she needs a bit of patting to help settle to sleep.
At night we just put her down on the bed (needs to suck a pacifier) and she'll fall asleep pretty soon.
She sleeps in the living room during day time (because easier to watch her), and her own room at night, both on the floor mattress (like Japanese Tatami).

Question:
1. Is the amount of sleep considered Ok for her age?
2. Is her sleeping habit considered fine? At 7 months old do you think it is possible to wean her pacifier? (I don't let her suck on it non-stop, I will pull it out when she's nearly fallen asleep).
3. It's mainly her naps that needs a bit of help. Perhaps it's because her routine can be disrupted sometimes by daily activies / events / outings.
How strict do you recommend the schedule should be? I am also a bit worried that a schedule too strict makes life very difficult. I have heard stories that babies that are put on a too strict schedule may not be very flexible, and some may not sleep anywhere except their own bed. Will this happen in your experience?

Thanks!
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我想問下係咪一定要過左六星期先設定時間表?同埋係咪最好介左夜奶先?
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本帖最後由 pyjess 於 12-8-28 00:24 編輯

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一出世已經可以定時作息, 不過只有食和瞓, 沒有玩, 因為食完已經攰得很; 一樣要掃好風, 注意安全, 定時叫BB起身食, 定時瞓...

如果一開始定時, 而又讓他自己瞓, 有媽媽說過, 完全不用TRAIN, 也會自己瞓
當然, 到了他大一點, 多點清醒時間, 就要加全"玩"的環節囉, 但太少還只玩很短很短的時間
而作息CYCLE也會慢慢變長

滿月至6星期戒夜奶
如果天空總是黑暗的，那就摸黑生存；如果發出聲音是危險的，那就保持沉默；如果自覺無力發光的，那就蜷伏於牆角。但不要習慣了黑暗就為黑暗辯護；不要為自己的苟且而得意；不要嘲諷那些比自己更勇敢熱情的人們。我們可以卑微如塵土，不可扭曲如蛆蟲 - 曼德拉
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我個仔依家五個月, 曾經係三個月時因為睡得少, nap唔到同埋要抱住訓(每次nap 半個鐘就醒訓唔番) 而train佢訓, 當時經過三四日地獄式訓練, 算train 好左, timetable 都set好左, 4小時1個cycle，食玩訓, 用comfort item（奶嘴，公仔加側睡）自己訓到兼訓多左. 夜晚佢都未可以一覺訓天光, 但通常只醒1次比奶嘴就訓番...
但經過幾次打針發燒厭奶同出耐左街, 尤其是厭奶, 要暗佢至好眼訓先肯飲，因而打亂左習慣, 佢開始唔可以自己訓番，用少少時間要抱要氹佢直至眼訓之後擺落床先訓, 但都算肯自己係床訓, 又無訓少到, 所以由得佢, 唔忍心再train佢...
但到最近一星期, 佢開始成日醒, 1個nap醒幾次, 夜晚又係兩三點後又差不多每1個鐘醒1次要奶嘴, 一比奶嘴就好快訓番, 唔比的話就會左擰右擰卒眼直至醒, 搞到我無覺好訓...
咁我應該重新再train佢, 由佢訓覺開始定係凈係train 佢醒左唔識自己訓個part，而奶嘴方面, 我應該忍心要佢介左佢, 定係凈係醒左搵奶嘴時唔比佢呢?
請賜教, thx!!
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通常我覺得, 如果家長滿意孩子的睡眠, 便是沒有問題; 看你所寫的, 滿平靜的, 感覺到你滿意情況

當然, 若是我, 我會對她的模式(也對自己的)作點更改
1) 兩夫婦早點回家, 陪陪孩子, 也陪陪另一半; 我孩子在六個月大時, 有一次, 保母跟我說, 他睡醒了, 會自己玩, 又會逗人陪他玩, 但一到六時左右, 便不玩, 因為當時我趕著七時回家接他, 他六時便等我門了
只是一個六個月的孩子, 也會期待父母...我知你們也有困難, 但我以前做AUDIT的, 有時工作至天明, 但也趕回家, 先陪孩子, 再吃飯, 然後工作至零晨3時才睡; 你的女兒七個月了, 也一樣期待你們呢! 每天專心的陪孩子30分鐘或以上, 對你們之間的感情建立很有幫助
2) 滿月至6星期開始, 已經可以改為4小時CYCLE了, 而她現在隔3小時便睡, 應該會有不肯睡的情況
3) 一開始改變模式(或有些媽媽想TRAIN孩子自行入睡), 時間控制會較嚴謹, 通常不差前後10分鐘, 因為遲了睡, 或遲了餵, 孩子都會轉眼間由小天使變成小魔鬼, 直至孩子已很習慣這個時間表, 滿有信心知道你下一步, 她才不會失控, 但偏差仍不可太多, 畢竟, 時候到了, 孩子是真會感到睏/餓
4) 除非晚上吃得少, 否則不應餵食, 睡前可多餵一點, 或用作試吃固體食物的時間...一覺天光是很重要的
5) 若她不會半夜要奶咀, 不用戒, 但她半夜醒來, 你餵她, 可能根本是要啜, 而非食
6) 有任何活動也好, 她的作息時間也不能更改, 那會讓孩子感到不安; 而我的做法是, 固定時間, 但不用固定地方, 只要固定的COMFORT ITEM便可, 既使到現在, 我的孩子在陌生的酒店房, 渡假屋, 瞓疏化, 甚至拍埋兩張櫈, 瞓草地, 他也可以自行入睡, 不用哄, 不用陪
如果天空總是黑暗的，那就摸黑生存；如果發出聲音是危險的，那就保持沉默；如果自覺無力發光的，那就蜷伏於牆角。但不要習慣了黑暗就為黑暗辯護；不要為自己的苟且而得意；不要嘲諷那些比自己更勇敢熱情的人們。我們可以卑微如塵土，不可扭曲如蛆蟲 - 曼德拉
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從新TRAIN, 加埋戒奶咀, 因為呢個TRAINING係一整套方法, 分開了, 實行一半, 就會好似你經驗到O既咁, 情況只會愈來愈差
而奶咀已經變成阻礙他瞓的東西, 而不是COMFORT ITEM, 所以要戒

不過, 唔洗擔心, 之前成功過, 好快佢會適應返~
如果天空總是黑暗的，那就摸黑生存；如果發出聲音是危險的，那就保持沉默；如果自覺無力發光的，那就蜷伏於牆角。但不要習慣了黑暗就為黑暗辯護；不要為自己的苟且而得意；不要嘲諷那些比自己更勇敢熱情的人們。我們可以卑微如塵土，不可扭曲如蛆蟲 - 曼德拉
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本身用𠮨嘴既原意係唔想佢食手同好似易介d, 但小B越黎越依賴奶嘴, 好似上左癮咁, 想問介奶嘴加train 佢訓一齊做會唔會好難train? 係咪同之前train自己訓覺一樣control crying 就ok? 因bb 非常依賴奶嘴, 怕好難介, 而我同老公都要返工，BB又跟我地訓, 唔想用太多時間慢慢試同慢慢train!! 太多問題了，多謝解答
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本帖最後由 Aurorasea 於 12-8-28 10:30 編輯
pyjess 發表於 12-8-28 00:19
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通常我覺得, 如果家長滿意孩子的睡眠, 便是沒有問題; 看你所寫的, 滿平靜的, 感覺 ...

Hi Pyjess,
Thank you very much for your helpful reply. You are right that I am not too worried about baby, but I am hoping to make things even better.

1) Unfortunately not really possible, especially for husband. But trying our best, she likes to play with us after 7pm until she sleeps at 9pm. Only 2 hours but that helps.

2 & 3) Our baby is not too strict about her schedule and she won't really mind a bit too late or early. We are fortunately that her signs are easy to read - she'll start rubbing her eyes hard and yawn if she's near her sleep time. Going by her signs, that's usually 3 - 4 hours from her past sleep. But sometimes when she's too excited & wants to play or practice her new skills (she recently started to crawl and 'speak' some new words, and she won't stop practicing unless we 'remind' her that it's time to sleep!). That's when problems happen - she will become cranky. I will try to a bit more consistent with her sleep time and see if it helps with her overall mood and ability to fall asleep.
Last night I tried again: 8:30 read her a book (our favorite pre-bed time activity), change her, and then put her on her mattress in her room with her pacifier, give her few minutes of gentle patting until she's a bit drowsy but not asleep, then left the room. Then she fell asleep.

4) Say if my baby sleeps at 9, when will you schedule her last feeding?

5) Sometimes, I think. Some nights if she gets up, sometimes by giving a pacifier & gentle patting she'll quickly settle back to sleep.
If she sometimes donesn't settle, I will give her a feeding.

6)Seeing other member's post, I am also afraid of addition to the pacifier.
What I do is I don't offer if she doesn't need it for sleep (interestingly, when we're outside she doesn't usually need it, it's only at home). If she needs it, I will take it out the moment she's sleeping.
Other times I may give is when she's in extreme distress (e.g. new environment) or when feeling ill as comfort item.
I will never use it to 'silent' the baby, or when she cries for other reasons (<-- which I will check to make sure baby is OK, and if everything is OK, I talk and use distraction which usually works)

Do you think by doing this, babies can still get 'addicted' to it?


Thank you!



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