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發表於 07-8-17 08:37 |只看該作者

Elmolly,
Don't need to say thanks, glad that the doctor sort it out.

3cast, Elmolly,
this is the way to stock milk

after expressed,
1.for frozen breast milk(冰奶) must stock into freezer immediately (can store for 3-4months)
2. for (凍奶) fridge (可 store for 24-48 hours)
3. for fresh breast milk in room temp (only last for 4 hours)

*已放室温over 1 hours 嘅人奶唔可以再放入fridge
* 巳放入雪櫃嘅人奶唔可以入freezer
*要冰奶係once you pump, then you freeze it
#frozen BF 要8-12小時喺雪櫃自然解凍, then 倒入bottle 用熱奶器暖奶
#巳放室温over 4 hours 嘅人奶要dispose
#曾解凍嘅BF放入雪櫃如48小時內冇用要dispose
#BF 存於雪櫃 48 小時冇用要dispose
#曾飲用過嘅人奶由入口一刻計 4hours 要dispose (so 倒奶時 only 倒the amount you need)
#曾暖過嘅奶, 唔理有冇飲過, 4hours must dispose

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發表於 07-8-17 10:08 |只看該作者

Nillie_Mami,

I need to mix the pumped milk together to make it to 7ozso half of the bottle is stored in the fridge first, can I mix it with the fresh one and put to freezer then?

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發表於 07-8-18 09:51 |只看該作者

every time you pump your BF, you store it right after, and put them into the freezer, you don't wait for another few hours and mix them together, unless, that is the milk from your left side and right side, but I don't do that as well, as I use dual pump with 2 storage bags, I store them separately and marked down the date, time and from which side on my storage bags.
I don't do that also because I don't want accident happens, if I did not hold my storage bags very well, I may accidently pour my milk to somewhere else.. BF is very valuable.. I can't lose a drop.

原文章由 elmolly 於 07-8-16 09:08 PM 發表
Nillie_Mami,

I need to mix the pumped milk together to make it to 7ozso half of the bottle is stored in the fridge first, can I mix it with the fresh one and put to freezer then?

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發表於 07-8-18 23:18 |只看該作者

Nillie_Mami,

我有2包冰奶係將新泵出黎既倒埋落支雪奶到然後冰,咁係咪唔要得?

如果我要泵2-3次先夠一餐咁咪要分幾袋?可唔可以將啱啱泵完既奶加落已經雪了變成冰奶的奶袋度?

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發表於 07-8-19 22:05 |只看該作者

elmolly,
你袋奶冰幾耐?? if within 2-3 日會用番就無為入冰格
我唔會咁做, L.L.L 都反對. 因為啱啱pump 嘅奶係about 37.5C, 而你嘅冰奶係-4C, 咁會令奶變質.
我係分開哂一袋袋, 開頭啲奶好多每袋得安半, 2安.. 之前我病, on steroid & antibiotics, 要補"福氣奶"時咪要溶多幾包囉

原文章由 elmolly 於 07-8-18 10:18 AM 發表
Nillie_Mami,

我有2包冰奶係將新泵出黎既倒埋落支雪奶到然後冰,咁係咪唔要得?

如果我要泵2-3次先夠一餐咁咪要分幾袋?可唔可以將啱啱泵完既奶加落已經雪了變成冰奶的奶袋度?

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發表於 07-8-20 01:24 |只看該作者

Nillie_Mami,

我嗰袋雪奶+鮮奶冰左三日到,咁即係唔要得喇,好赤呀:-(

for the freshly pumped milk, do I need to put to fridge for 1-2 hours before put it to freezer? I've read from another topic that I need to do so

how come 巳放入雪櫃嘅人奶唔可以入freezer? I usually will keep 1 day's stock in fridge (some maybe pumped 2 days before), which is around 3 bottles, if I got extra, then will put to freezer, but only 4 bags so far and 2 need to throw away...

Andrea is doing very much better now, she'll be fussy at night only when she's hungry or sleepy, although still only allows me to feed and to make her sleep, really want to thank you again. Can she has the wind drop in the long run? will there be any side-effects?

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發表於 07-8-21 15:35 |只看該作者

elmolly,
message from L.L.L. we will not keep BF in refrigerater for anytime before we put them into freezer. If we know that those BF will be kept for later more than 3 days, we will freeze it right after pumped it.

Gas drop gives good relief for many infant.
and for Colic baby.. their discomfort normally subside when they turn 6 months old, afterthat you don't need to given any more gas drop.

for me.. I will just make a mark on those ERROR BF, let them at behind.. I will still use them if I have no more frozen BF left.. therefore we call the frozen BF as "fuk hay nine"
if we don't need to use it, because we got enough supplies.. if we need to use it, then it is lucky, we had stocked it ahead.

原文章由 elmolly 於 07-8-19 12:24 PM 發表
Nillie_Mami,

我嗰袋雪奶+鮮奶冰左三日到,咁即係唔要得喇,好赤呀:-(

for the freshly pumped milk, do I need to put to fridge for 1-2 hours before put it to freezer? I've read from another ...

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發表於 07-8-25 06:15 |只看該作者

Nillie:

其實PUMP完的奶係咪要立刻放入FREEZER? 可唔可以放係室溫? 咁放係室溫後, 又可唔可以放入FREEZER?

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原文章由 3cats 於 07-8-24 05:15 PM 發表

Nillie:

其實PUMP完的奶係咪要立刻放入FREEZER?
係呀!
可唔可以放係室溫?
by protocol 就唔可以
咁放係室溫後, 又可唔可以放入FREEZER?
by protocol 就唔可以
Reason: 因為人奶營養好高, 室温係助長細菌"fan"植(development), after 細菌developed 之後. 你又放入freezer 去frozen, like 沙門氏菌最鐘意室温to -18度C, 咁你呀B一飲呢啲contaminated 嘅BF 咪肚疴..
therefore, 奶一pump 出, 明知safe for later 就要立即frozen, reduce the risk of contamination.
心照.. 自己住喺家人屋企, 你唔可以expect 人哋有你自己嘅衛生standard 呀!
BB 如果係食人奶, 有gastroentritis, 得2個原因, 一就係BF受感染, or 你嘅奶pump, bottle --處理過程有問題..
小心屋內有冇mickey, 同小強, 蟻之類..
Brooklyn 嘅衛生情況大家好清楚.

after expressed,
1.for frozen breast milk(冰奶) must stock into freezer immediately (can store for 3-4months)
2. for (凍奶) fridge (可 store for 24-48 hours)
3. for fresh breast milk in room temp (only last for 4 hours)

*已放室温over 1 hours 嘅人奶唔可以再放入fridge
* 巳放入雪櫃嘅人奶唔可以入freezer
*要冰奶係once you pump, then you freeze it
#frozen BF 要8-12小時喺雪櫃自然解凍, then 倒入bottle 用熱奶器暖奶
#巳放室温over 4 hours 嘅人奶要dispose
#曾解凍嘅BF放入雪櫃如48小時內冇用要dispose
#BF 存於雪櫃 48 小時冇用要dispose
#曾飲用過嘅人奶由入口一刻計 4hours 要dispose (so 倒奶時 only 倒the amount you need)
#曾暖過嘅奶, 唔理有冇飲過, 4hours must dispose

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發表於 07-8-26 01:32 |只看該作者

Nillie_Mami,

ok, so even the freshly pumped breast milk is still warm still put it to freezer right away?

I have now separate my problem frozen milk to another bag, hopefully Andrea won't need it.

I'll be back to work on Sept 5, do I need to adjust my pumping schedule (less frequent)? I'm so worried that I'll need to give more formula to Andrea cause it takes me 2-3 times to make up one meal to her (she needs 7oz but I only have 3 oz in average), which will not be possible to pump that often when I'm back to work :-(

I've heard that frozen breast milk is not as nutritious as 凍奶, should I only give it only when there's not enough 凍奶?

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發表於 07-8-26 03:54 |只看該作者

Elmolly,
May be I am not a 100% chinese, my mom always said frozen food with less nutritent. However, for my understanding. If we preserve the food while it is fresh, the nutritent of the food will not change.
Only when food became 氧化.. then, food will not be fresh as it supposed to be.
my dear, so can you understand why I urge you to pump your milk with schedule since July. And only pump 15 milk with dual pump each time with maximum suction level?
that is the way for you to get used to, so you can return to work with no problem (actually cause less trouble)
You only work 8 hours, right??
so you can skin to skin before work if possible, if not then dual pump, pump clear and leave the milk for your mom to feed Andrea.
then you pump at lunch time, and store them in office's refrigerator, mark it that it is breast milk so people will not open your bag. then if you need so, pump before you leave office. and store all milk in to the cooler, with ice pad surround.
as they are not frozen, as you have never freeze them, pour them into the bottle, and let your mom feed Andrea at night or for the next day.
My dear.. we don't expect to be 100% or even 80% breast feed after you return to work, if you did not stock up the BF into the freezer in advance, do feel bad.
that is reality if Andrea needs to be 50-50 BF and formula feed.
and next time, when you have 2nd child, you have already learnt.

rose-meg,
How are you and how is Amanda?
How's your BF experience this time!!

原文章由 elmolly 於 07-8-25 12:32 PM 發表
Nillie_Mami,

ok, so even the freshly pumped breast milk is still warm still put it to freezer right away?

I have now separate my problem frozen milk to another bag, hopefully Andrea won't need it.

...

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發表於 07-8-27 02:42 |只看該作者

rose_mag,

Congrats!!!!! how are you and baby Amanda?

Nillie_Mami,

oh, you are not 100% chinese?

yes, I feel so bad for not following your advice earlier, now don't have much stock in freezer, next child... I hope I can survive with this one :tongue:

sorry that there's another problem comes up with my monster Andrea, she's not sleeping at night now. It has been 4th nights already, I need over 3 hours to 暗her sleep (from 10/11pm to 2am). 我驚佢唔舒服但係我抱住佢又識笑,又一定要我抱先唔喊. is it possible that she's not feeling well or what? she sleeps less than 2 hours in afternoon and eveing altogether but not sleeping until 2am

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發表於 07-8-27 16:34 |只看該作者

elmolly,
my blood is chinese... but the way I thought, and the way I act.. not really a chinese chinese...
for the sleeping problem, don't stress out.
did you keep the light dime? does soft music work on Andrea? how is the temperature inside the room, any noise or any thing which is very disturbance??
did you burp Andrea very well before you put her down??
have you try the method in my forum which taught the infant/baby to fall a sleep?

原文章由 elmolly 於 07-8-26 01:42 PM 發表
rose_mag,

Congrats!!!!! how are you and baby Amanda?

Nillie_Mami,

oh, you are not 100% chinese?

yes, I feel so bad for not following your advice earlier, now don't have much stock in freezer, nex ...

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發表於 07-8-28 05:44 |只看該作者

Hi Nillie & elmolly,
We are fine. Just so tired - from both Spencer and Amanda. My Amanda is so demanding, if she cannot get enough milk, she can keep crying for an hour to ask for just one sip. Also, she keeps drinking so fast and finally needs a lot of burping afterwards. She poos when she's thinking so sometimes, I need to change her 2 times in between. My milk comes so late and slow this time. It's the 10th day, I can only bump out 1-1.5oz (after feeding) and don't feel very engored. Since Amanda only eat 5-6 times (sometimes 7) in a day, I wonder if the stimulus is enough. My 99 made me some chicken wine but I had skin rashes after drinking it. She made it the first day of my baby born and I had to finish it (she checked the pot everyday and bring new one everyday). If I don't drink it, she has a lot to say. Now, I bump after the breastfeeding to empty my breasts. The total amount is increasing, ranges from 1 to 1.5 oz. and I'm trying to bump more times but not really getting more than that. Now, I need to bump when Amanda is sleeping and try to go for a nap before she wakes up. Luckily, my mom is helping me taking care of Spencer who has terrible rashes on his face recently (not sure if it's his eczeme or other kind of allergy) and he has a nightmare yesterday. He woke up at 10:30pm and cried with fear in his eyes for half an hour, kept on grasping my hubby's arms and bited on the nipple of the water bottle.

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發表於 07-8-28 06:46 |只看該作者

Rose-meg,
How old is Amanda now?
a month old yet? if so,she still need to be fed about 8 times a day or more. unless she slept. otherwise, she needs to be fed more frequently.
yupyup.. try to pump at least every3 hours.. that will helpyou to increase your residue.

Elmolly,
Don't worry too much,you have tired your best !!!
Wish all the best when you return to work.. is that the same company you worked for?
you need to do a test drive before you actual return to work.
bring all your pump equirement with you plus your fridge to go (cooler), see where you can pump milk in your office, how long can the cooler keeps cold... if you use electric pump, where is the electricity supply?
make sure you got microwave in office or where you can sterilise your pump accessories.

that was what I got through before I actual return to work

原文章由 rose-mag 於 07-8-27 04:44 PM 發表
Hi Nillie & elmolly,
We are fine. Just so tired - from both Spencer and Amanda. My Amanda is so demanding, if she cannot get enough milk, she can keep crying for an hour to ask for just one sip. Al ...

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發表於 07-8-28 11:09 |只看該作者

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 07-8-28 06:46 發表
Rose-meg,
How old is Amanda now?
a month old yet? if so,she still need to be fed about 8 times a day or more. unless she slept. otherwise, she needs to be fed more frequently.
yupyup.. try to pump at ...

Amanda is only 10 days old today. I discussed my concern to her pedi and he said if she's eating enough and sleeps good, it's okay for her to feed on demand even though it's only 5-6 times. I tried to wake her up for every 3-4 hours (sometimes, she wakes up by herself) - actually, when I feel my breasts engored, I know that it's time to wake her up. Yes, I'm trying to pump every 3 hours but sometimes I cannot do that because it takes me 1.5-2 hours to finish feeding Amanda and put her to sleep. You have mentioned a kind of herbal tea to increase milk, what's the name or the brand? Where can I buy it? I'm not sure if I'm too nervous on increasing milk flow - it's the 10th day since she's bornt. When should I expect to increase my milk supply? Since I feed her skin to skin until she's full, getting 1 oz through pumping afterwards is acceptable or not for her age?

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發表於 07-8-28 19:26 |只看該作者

Nillie_Mami,

Andrea is only 5 month old, so it's alright to set up bed time bedtime routine for her now? after I 安撫 her, then just let her keep crying? we tried 方法1 for 1 time, finally even the bedsheet was wet by her tears after an hour's crying and I gave up

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發表於 07-8-29 03:30 |只看該作者

rose_mag,

how's Specner's rash? is he jealous towards his little sister? I understand how tired it is to "steal" time to pump and to sleep, add oil

Nillie_Mami,

I guess you stayed in overseas for long and you are a science person, so your thinking is more westernized. I'm so surprised that you still remember I'm going back to the company that I've worked for. I'll work as part time there for every mon/tue/thur/fri. Thanks for reminding for the test drive, I'm worrying about the sterilzing now. I've asked if there's room that I can pump, but no one borders to reply me. Most likely will need to do it in the washroom of shopping mall, it's cleaner there.

I'm experiencing a bit blue in these few days. Yesterday my mom and I brought Andrea to our family physican to check if her sleeping problem is because of the colic as the pedi is on leave. It ended up she's fine but both my mom and dr said I'm too into BF (my family doctor treated my depression), it's very discouraging. I'm facing a new challenge to return to work with my pump, there's no support at all, only voices to ask me stop. It's already quite stressful to store more milk and preparing for my future pumping life. My mom's temper is "unpredictable" (she also has emotional problem) recently and she is getting more conflicts with hubby, especially in taking care of Andrea...somehow, I really feel frustrated already (pump all day and night, afraid to go out for long with engored breasts, pushing myself to eat, anything wrong with Andrea, everyone will suppose it's my problem etc)and think of give up. Everyone around me gives me a feeling that I'm doing something I shouldn't do :-(

OK, these 2 days Andrea is giving me something new. I can manage to make her sleep in a reasonable time, but then she's waking up every 1 to 2 hours. Nillie, what's wrong and how can I deal with it? whenever she wakes up, I'm the only one can calm her down, I can't go to work without sleep

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發表於 07-8-29 07:10 |只看該作者

Rose meg,
I am taking the prenatal vitamin (for sure .. is prenatal vitamin), Omega 3 (pure only 3, *not 6,9), DHA, about 2000mg of Calcium. I didn't take nursing herbal tea, as I got enough milk flow and supply.

the herbal tea is WELEDA nursing tea for breastfeeding mothers.

http://www.weleda.co.nz
I got it online.

原文章由 rose-mag 於 07-8-27 10:09 PM 發表

Amanda is only 10 days old today. I discussed my concern to her pedi and he said if she's eating enough and sleeps good, it's okay for her to feed on demand even though it's only 5-6 times. I trie ...

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