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發表於 07-8-29 21:33 |只看該作者

Nillie_Mami,

oh god, my mom needs to go back to hospital again on friday

I skin to skin Andrea in the morning now, usually around 5am till noon time, total around 2-3 times, depends how often she wakes up. Then start pumping from afternoon till late night, maybe 2am, also depends if Andrea sleeps or not. I could have more stock if there's more milk but as I can only have 3.5oz each time, so can't stock up much. I'm still struggling on continuing or not, giving up will make my life easier but I also feel good to see Andrea grows well with my own milk.

其實Andrea上次睇完醫生已經好左好多,係夜晚都係一定要我抱.上星期開始,唔知點解佢喑極都唔瞓.一係就瞓5-10分鐘就起身,咁就要再暗過,晚晚都起碼攪到兩點!但係5點到佢又醒

跟住上星期日我地去左bb gathering,同個媽咪傾開sleeping problem佢就叫我地由佢喊,其實好似你教既方法一咁,只不過係同我地一間房.實情我唔捨得由佢喊見你又話6個月先start bedtime routine,所以無諗住試.點知果晚喑左成個鐘阿女都唔瞓,我好抆就將比左老公,佢將阿女放落牀就熄燈瞓覺,又唔比人掂個女,話佢攪掂喎.結果一個鐘後先投降,所以我話試左一次.

我媽咪見識過Andrea瞓5分鐘就龍精虎猛後都得scary,驚有事所以前日再帶佢睇醫生(just like what I've said in my post).呢兩日我照常喑瞓,佢又瞓喎,但係wake up every 1 to 2 hours. Last night from 23:30 to -5:00, she woke up 3 times! If she sleeps better, then I can sleep more and have more chance to pump too. 比佢舞完一大輪有時真係攰到起唔到身. 而家仲難湊過new born果陣, when she was not feeling well with her stomach, maybe she was too tired from crying, she slept much better and the first week after we visited the pedi was also fine too, just don't know what happened in these 2 weeks! 你教下我可以點喇:-( :-( :-(

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發表於 07-8-29 23:44 |只看該作者

Elmolly,
Feed Andrea with formula from night time. like 7-8pm and 11-12 pm ( 2 meals before bed). not subsititue with BF.. see how does it go.
Start with the bed time training on her, she is spoiled, you will not able to make it when you return to work.
Also, consider to hire a philipino, you need them to help you out, your mom is not reliable to take care of Andrea. because she needs to go back and forward to hospital.
What colour is your BF?? how much calories you are taking now? did you follow the diet I gave you before?
How many beverages you take everyday?
How many time of skin to skin + pumping each day you do?

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發表於 07-8-30 00:15 |只看該作者

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 07-8-29 23:44 發表
Elmolly,
Feed Andrea with formula from night time. like 7-8pm and 11-12 pm ( 2 meals before bed). not subsititue with BF.. see how does it go.
Start with the bed time training on her, she is spoiled, ...

ok, so I just pick any time at night that I want to start the bed time training on her? how long should I let her cry? I was also thought that she's not full so keep waking up, but then last night I didn't skin to skin her until she woke up at 5am. I was able to make her sleep again without milk and my nipple. you think she's hungry so keep waking up?

I hired a bun bun, she's just on board for like 3 weeks, she doesn't have any experience in taking care of infants and still training her up. my mom's legs got problem for long just didn't expect why is her leg always get infected in this year... I thought it would be ok for my mom and bun bun together to take care of Andrea, so agreed to start work on next week with my boss, now thinking if should go later.

I tried to follow your suggested diet, except for breakfast cause Andrea sleeps the best from 7:00-12:00, I really can't get up for both pump and eat after "playing" by her the whole night even my alarm clock rings (cause recently she always wakes up at 5). dinner, 1 full bowl of rice instead of 2 bowls. I skin to skin her during this time if she's hungry. beverages.. around 10 cups of water plus soup or other drinks. skin to skin 2-3 times and pump around 5 times a day. but I don't know how much calories, I didn't find out a web that can calculate yet

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elmolly,
go to review the message in bed time training.
I have all info there. Try to stick with it. Don't give yourself any excuse.. no matter she cries, no pick up, no rocking.
better try on the days that you are not working.
I don't think that it is good for you to return to work next week.
you better tell them a month later.
for Andrea, she is spoiled, she may cry for a whole month.
you and your husband need to be tough, and keep commitment.
DO NOT BASE ON 1 NIGHT, you should know, Andrea will do those in 1 night, it doesn't mean she will do it other night.
DO NOT CHANGE YOUR CARING METHOD EVERY NIGHT, Andrea will get very confuse
BREAKFAST is the most important meal for the day, you can't skip it.
10 BEVERAGES OF WATER IS NOT enough, as you should know, 8 glasses of water is for you, and how much fluid you left for your breast to produce milk??
GO TO DEPT OF HEALTH WEBSITE IN HK, they should have the calories calulation. Especially for Diabetic diet column, they will tell those Diabetic to choose the food, then you will know.. what food with high calories and which doesn't.
8 times (for skin to skin + pump), very good. finally, you reach it. Keep going.

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發表於 07-8-30 15:42 |只看該作者

Nillie_Mami,

just wonder why would you suggest to give her formula since night time? she'll sleep better in this way? normally she'll have milk at around 18:30 then formula at the next meal, so change the milk at 18:30 to formula too?

should I not introduce solid food to Andrea until she turns to 6month?

ok, I'll drink more water, cause I have at least 3 bowls of soup every day too, so I thought it would be ok. I'm only taking DHA, no prenatal vitamin, Omega 3 and calcium, do I need to take them as well? my breast milk is in white colour.

Rose-mag,

how about you? doing better now?

[ 本文章最後由 elmolly 於 07-8-30 19:44 編輯 ]

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發表於 07-8-31 01:55 |只看該作者

elmolly,
what kind of solid food Andrea is having now?
rice cereal?congee?
if rice cereal, what did you mix with? water, BF or formula?
how many oz??

See.. that is what I told, you, I am not beside, you, so I can't really tell how you take care of Andrea on daily bases.
You should know better than me.

To ask you to feed Andrea with 2 meal of formula, is to make Andrea to have full feeling before bed.
if she is fed with solid food at 6:30pm, then keep it. I through she has BF.
WWW suggests infant to start solid food from 6 months old, really depend on you if you wanna starts early. but not earlier than 4 months old.
12 glasses of beverages is minimum..
water, juice, sou milk, and soup are necessary.. as your supply isn't enough.
In your case, you can even take the nursing herbal tea, that may help to increase your milk supply. Calcium with 2000kcal is a must for nursing mom, so I take calcium pills, Omega 3 works on me to prevent milk duct blockage, so I take it twice a day as well. Prenatal vitamin, just because I work night shift, and work in hospital (the isolation unit) so I wanna bush up my immune system, plus I know that I may not eat enough. As I drink 12 glasses of water, plus 2 juices, 2 cups of soy milk, strawberry milk, and 1-2 bowl of soup.. those should be good for my kidney and liver to wash out all the waste from my body.
I know that I should eat fruit and food instead of taking vitamin. However, that is not my option. I work 13 hours a day, and I need to skin to skin Gabriel 3 times during my sleep, I work at night.. how many times (hours) left for me to eat? how many hours (good quality) of sleep I can get?
Not good at all.. and I work in Med-surg, which I have to deal with AIDS, and isolation patients all day long. I need those extra supplement to protect myself.

原文章由 elmolly 於 07-8-30 02:42 AM 發表
Nillie_Mami,

just wonder why would you suggest to give her formula since night time? she'll sleep better in this way? normally she'll have milk at around 18:30 then formula at the next meal, so chang ...

[ 本文章最後由 Nillie_Mami 於 07-8-30 13:48 編輯 ]

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原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 07-7-4 03:00 發表
Elmolly,
老實講, 我會話你知, if BB 喊只為口痕就尤得佢喊, 唔可以竉壞, as 你返工後, 揾邊個做佢人肉奶咀? 佢都係要adapt 架喇! 喊吓個lung 可以expand 好啲, 對身體冇害.
要俾佢知道架 ...

我發現ZOEY都有同一個情況, 就後邊個一抱佢, 佢就"烘" 件衫, 因我係skin-to-skin, 所以都唔知道係上一餐係咪食唔飽. 所以我想問點知佢係口痕定肚餓?

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發表於 07-8-31 02:50 |只看該作者

3cats,
she can smell you, that's why she will search for your nipples. haha.. Don't worry, if she is hungry, she will cry.. but never feed her between 2 meals.. that is bad habit

原文章由 3cats 於 07-8-30 01:21 PM 發表

我發現ZOEY都有同一個情況, 就後邊個一抱佢, 佢就"烘" 件衫, 因我係skin-to-skin, 所以都唔知道係上一餐係咪食唔飽. 所以我想問點知佢係口痕定肚餓?

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發表於 07-9-2 14:37 |只看該作者

Nillie_Mami,

finally I have mood to deal with my BF problem after you helped me out on the sleeping routine.

your job is so demanding, no wonder you also look tough from your new pic :lol:

I think you are doing the best to yourself and Gabriel, so even though you have no time to eat fruit it's not that important (it's tasty though). you are really tough and brave from what I've read from you!

sometimes it's so frustrated and I don't know who can I ask in taking care of Andrea, I did think of calling you... it's not expensive to call to the States now anyway.

nonono, you were right, Andra is a pure milk baby until now and I know solid food is best to introduce at 6m, just that I've read from my book (what to expect in the first year) that a I can start solid food if my baby shows interest in adult food and they said can start solid food in 5m, that's why I asked you. 佢成日眼甘甘咁望住我食野 so I wonder if I should start it.

I didn't take the Calcium with 2000kcal, and omega 3, let me try to find out where to get it. I tried the herbal tea I can get in HK, but not working, let me try to get the one you tried.

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發表於 07-9-2 22:30 |只看該作者

ELmolly
I use the internet phone at home, with the 8 numbers phone number... haha so it is free. my parents and friends always call me.. I just need to pay USD$9 for the line rental monthly.

Remember to continue the way you are doing now, do not skin to skin Andrea at night, no matter what happened.
You can get all supplement from GNC or local pharmacy .. I guess..
as last time (Dec 2005) we went back to hk.. I saw that there was a GNC at Time square (causeway bay), basement. they sell all nutrition supplement.

Take 2000 mg Calcium, 2000mg of Omega 3, plus the mutli vitamin.. plus at least 12 beverages .. should bush up the milk supply (+ increase the qaulity of milk).

for Andrea's solid food, you need to wait until she can sit without support, able to hold things on hand.

原文章由 elmolly 於 07-9-2 01:37 AM 發表
Nillie_Mami,

finally I have mood to deal with my BF problem after you helped me out on the sleeping routine.

your job is so demanding, no wonder you also look tough from your new pic :lol::" />

I think ...

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Nillie_Mami,

my friend in the States also got a phone line like yours, she told me she just uses normal phone with it. would you mine to let me know your number just in case? I hope I won't need to though...

when will you come back to hK again? I really should treat you a dinner with Amanda and Gabriel! you help me a lot! much more than anyone around me and even the nurses from the clinic.

I have checked out the calcium, they go with mg and the max. we have here (it's also GNC) is only 1000mg, is it ok? I also found the GNC's omega 3, let me check if the dosage is fine or not. mutli vitamin, let me go have a look.

by the way, do you know if there's kind of vitamin that help to cure 飛滋? I got like tons in my mouth and throat, can barely eat :-(

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發表於 07-9-8 11:16 |只看該作者

Nillie_Mami,

I saw your reply in other topic, how about with NUK warmer? do you know which degree I should set? I only use warm water to warm milk now cause worried the warmer maybe over 60 degree. and frozen of different dates, can I mix them together to a bottle after I warm it?

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發表於 07-9-8 20:06 |只看該作者

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 07-8-29 07:10 發表
Rose meg,
I am taking the prenatal vitamin (for sure .. is prenatal vitamin), Omega 3 (pure only 3, *not 6,9), DHA, about 2000mg of Calcium. I didn't take nursing herbal tea, as I got enough milk flow ...

Nillie:

我見你地講開食維他命的問題, 我依家都有食魚油丸, 但我係食omega 3,6, 9. 咁請問omega 6, 9對BB有無影響?

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發表於 07-9-8 22:26 |只看該作者

elmolly,
Vitamin E may help to solve your mouth sore problem.
My dear... Omega 3 normally comes with 600mg,1000mg or 1200mg.
If you need to take 2000mg per day, what you have to do?
You just need to take 2 pills of 1000mg per day.

原文章由 elmolly 於 07-9-2 11:04 AM 發表
Nillie_Mami,

my friend in the States also got a phone line like yours, she told me she just uses normal phone with it. would you mine to let me know your number just in case? I hope I won't need to t ...

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發表於 07-9-8 22:32 |只看該作者

Elmolly,
I don't know that NUK has bottle warmer as well..
as I am using Avent.
they got the instruction on the side of the Avent warmer,you can simply follow the guide over there.
yup, after you have defrose the BF, then before you warm up the milk, you add up the amount you want prior you warm it.

原文章由 elmolly 於 07-9-7 10:16 PM 發表
Nillie_Mami,

I saw your reply in other topic, how about with NUK warmer? do you know which degree I should set? I only use warm water to warm milk now cause worried the warmer maybe over 60 degree. a ...

[ 本文章最後由 Nillie_Mami 於 07-9-8 09:34 編輯 ]

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3cats,
I will suggest you guys get purely Omega 3, because Omega 3 and 9 contains Good cholesterol, However, Omega 6 is bad cholesterol.
it is difficult to find the fish oil only contains Omega 3 and 9. therefore, to choose only Omega 3 is a wise desicion.
Those contain Omega 3, 6, 9 all together, you will increase your bad cholesterol in blood stream. when you go and check the price of it.. that is the cheapest. because the company is too lazy to separate bad and good cholesterol, and they tried to confuse their customer.
I would say, you just dump it.. although, it is a waste, but to take something which is bad for your body and you are breast feeding an infant. that is not a good idea to continue consume it.
Omega 3 supplement, is good for heart, and prevent heart attack, also, nursing mom finds that if you take Omega 3, regularly (same amount, same time everyday twice a day), it can help to prevent infection and the milk duct blockage.

原文章由 3cats 於 07-9-8 07:06 AM 發表
Nillie:
我見你地講開食維他命的問題, 我依家都有食魚油丸, 但我係食omega 3,6, 9. 咁請問omega 6, 9對BB有無影響?

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Nillie_Mami,

oops,生完仔個腦完全唔識郁添,真係無諗過可以食兩粒,失禮晒

Thanks again for your help in the past 2 months! I'll have a new challenge on the coming monday as I'll return to work, feel very nervous. As now I skin to skin + pump 7-8 times a day, after going to work, I think I can only make it like 4 times a day, will my milk flow drop a lot? It's already not too much... will it help if I pump like every 2 hour at night time?

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Hi Nillie, elmolly, 3 cats,
I haven't been here for a while because of being so tired. Once I have time, I rather sleep. My Amanda makes me so busy and tired. Her eating habit is changing, sometimes 8 times a day, sometimes 7 and sometimes 6 but mostly 7 times. Now, she's 3 weeks old. We have a problem every night between 8-11pm. Once the feeding falls between these hours, she will keep eating for 2-3 hours. At the beginining, I breast-fed her and need to supplement her with bottle. No more than 1 hour, she woke up and wanted to be fed again (usually she took 1 time each breast then fell sleep). After a few nights like that, I tried to bottle-fed with breast-milk. The same thing repeated. Yesterday night, my husband fed her with formula, 2-1/2 oz first, then she wanted another 1-1/2 oz. She poo 2 times in between (total feeding 2 hours). Then, she fell sleep and then woke up no more 1 hour later. She took another 1/2 oz and then poo again. Half an hour later, she woke up and drank 1/2 oz then slept for another 3 hours for another feeding. It has been at least 1 week like that and I don't understand why. I have breast milk for her. When I'm engored and then I pump, I can get up to 2.5 oz. Even though I fed her and pump afterwards, I still can get 1 oz.

She always eats and poo at the same time. Usually, she cries so loud and even feeding cannot calm her down when she needs to poo. Once she poo, she calms down and starts eating. My hubby said that it may be my diet. But, I usually eat rice, meat and vegetables with some ginger vinegar everyday. I have around 5-6 meals a day. At night time, I will eat a 2/3 bowl of rice with some meat and veggies after each feeding (I feel hungry almost every time). For ginger vinegar, I eat an egg, some pig's limbs and maybe 1/2 bowl of vinegar. In the earlier time, I have some chicken wine but I stopped drinking the wine when I started to have rashes on my legs and my lower back, also Amanda has some pimples on her face. So, I stopped it already, sometimes, just eat the chicken, wooden ears and gold needles.

From Thursday night onwards, I bottle fed Amanda at night time and skin to skin at daytime. At night-time, I pumped after feeding Amanda or when I woke up feeling engored. Amanda is a demanding girl, she won't give up crying if she still wants some more milk. It really makes me and my hubby tired. Especially, Spencer woke up every early morning and cried because he has very bad rashes which makes him itchy. We took him to a new pedi and he said that Spencer might have an allergy on certain kinds of food. We are now testing and change his milk to organic type and also washes his clothes with mild detergent with no fabric softener. 2 crying babies make us crazy - even my hubby said that he will never be a full-time mom if he needs to deal with it all day. :-( :-(

[ 本文章最後由 rose-mag 於 07-9-9 10:22 編輯 ]

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