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侯爵府

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發表於 25-12-28 14:53 |只看該作者
回覆 Rita 的帖子

連烏克蘭人都明白,打依場仗無義意,空口叫正義果啲人都各懷居心,實際為自己政治利益
香港有班傻仔被人洗左腦走去前線送死
你話幾咁可笑可賤同無腦,一啲都唔值得可憐、同情同著話咩為自己理念

純綷係無腦死蠢


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‘Nobody wants peace’: The Ukrainian men risking death to avoid the front line

[color=var(--theme-component-source-color)]Maramures, Romania

Viktor Pinkhasov can’t stop smiling. He has just managed to escape Ukraine after hiking alone for five days across the Carpathian Mountains.

“I want to go and be free, to live,” the 34-year-old told CNN in disbelief after arriving in neighboring Romania. He is one of dozens making the illegal crossing from western Ukraine every week.

After nearly four years of pushing against Russia’s full-scale invasion, Ukraine is facing a growing manpower crisis: Kyiv’s forces are trying to hold a more than 600-mile front line against Russian troops who are pressing a relentless war of attrition.

CNN spoke to half a dozen draft evaders who didn’t want to risk dying in a conflict with no end in sight – despite [color=var(--theme-semantic-color-link-primary-base-default)]attempts by the Trump administration and foreign powers to negotiate one. Russia meanwhile can draw on a population more than three times larger than Ukraine’s to fill its ranks, despite mounting casualties.

The Ukrainian Prosecutor General’s Office has opened nearly 290,000 criminal cases into soldiers’ absence without leave and desertion up to September, according to the Ukrainska Pravda media outlet. Martial law bars all men aged 23 to 60 who are eligible for military service from leaving the country.

For Pinkhasov, who worked as a taxi driver in Kyiv, life back home became what he described as unbearable, even as US President Donald Trump, Russian President Vladimir Putin, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and European leaders advance competing visions for ending the war.

“Nobody wants peace. Not Putin, not Zelensky, not Trump,” he said bluntly over a cup of tea in the Romanian border town of Sighetu Marmatiei – the air thick with smoke from wood stoves battling against the cold.


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CNN



He said he spent about a month preparing for the crossing, poring endlessly over navigation apps and Telegram channels where people recount their experience and share tips. Pinkhasov also stocked up on dozens of energy bars and second-hand survival gear. He ditched it all in the mountains on his last day so he could sprint across the border and avoid being caught by Ukraine’s border guards.

Once on the other side, an elated Pinkhasov joined more than 30,000 Ukrainian men who have crossed into Romania illegally since the beginning of the conflict in 2022, according to that country’s border police. They have all been granted temporary protection status, a European Union measure that is offered to anyone fleeing the war.

Ukraine’s own state border guard service says more than 25,000 people have been caught on their way out. And that’s just to Romania. Many more flee to Moldova, Hungary, Belarus and other countries.

A deadly crossing

Not everyone makes it through unscathed. At least 29 men have died trying to cross the treacherous mountains or by drowning in the Tisa river, which separates part of northern Romania from southwestern Ukraine.



Dima, who asked to use a pseudonym out of concern for his privacy, lost all his toes to frostbite after spending five days trying to navigate the slopes in subzero temperatures. “It was a shock when I saw my feet,” the 42-year-old construction worker told CNN. “Every single day it hurts. Every minute, every second hurts.”

The father of two left Ukraine after being served draft papers in the early days of the war. He paid smugglers to help him flee in April 2022, but says they didn’t warn him of the deadly risks ahead. “When we were at the top of the mountain, there was a big blizzard, snow. We couldn’t see each other if we moved a meter away,” Dima recalled.

One of the men with whom he was traveling froze to death. The weather was so bad that his body couldn’t be retrieved for weeks. Dima was convinced that he too would die. But Romania’s Salvamont Maramures rescue service airlifted him off the mountain just in time.

‘Our job is full of empathy for humanity’

Dan Benga is the man in charge of those rescue missions. A former rugby player turned businessman, he has since 2017 dedicated his life to saving those who get in trouble in the mountains, the second-longest range in Europe.

Together with other state agencies, his team has picked up 377 Ukrainian men in less than four years.


Dan Benga's Salvamont Maramures mountain rescue service has saved 377 Ukrainians since Russia’s full-scale invasion in February 2022.
Alex Platt/CNN




Benga says many of the men aren’t equipped with the necessary gear to make it through such steep ravines and knee-deep snow, and they risk succumbing to injury or exhaustion.

“They would rather die on the mountains trying to escape than in the war,” Benga told CNN. He refuses to judge them. “We don’t know, actually, what is going on in their mind, in their soul. … Our job is full of empathy for humanity.”

It’s a risky job that nearly cost the 57-year-old his own life one Christmas Eve. He got stuck on a mountain during a snowstorm for five days in 2022 and was declared missing by authorities. His wife and three kids were told to prepare for the worst.

But Benga pushed on. He says he carried a Ukrainian man on his back for 14 hours until the rescuers finally reached them. Benga became visibly emotional recounting that day – the dangers of his job and the toll that can take on his family weigh heavily on him.


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Salvamont Maramures



One Ukrainian man who requested anonymity out of concern for his safety told CNN that being rescued was “an indescribable feeling.”

“I had goosebumps all over my body. Waiting for the rescuers was like waiting for a miracle,” he added.

Smugglers guide draft evaders out of Ukraine

For those who can afford it, paying a smuggler can be tempting. Some of them openly advertise their services on social media. “Artem,” who has more than 4,000 followers on TikTok claims he can facilitate a crossing into Romania for $14,000.

“We rescue people who just want to live, to build their future,” he told CNN in an interview. “I help people, I save people,” likening it to a lifesaving service.

“Artem” explained that bribing Ukrainian authorities including border guards to look the other way is key to succeeding. Once the fugitive makes it out of the country, he says his team guides them online from afar.

“We transport people directly to the border and then they just take a short walk for 300 to 400 meters, and they’re already in Romania,” he said.


An aerial view over the Carpathian Mountains, a range extending through several European countries.
Alex Platt/CNN




A CNN journalist posed as a Ukrainian man seeking information about the smuggling process on Telegram, discussing cost and logistics directly with two other people who claimed they could facilitate an escape. They also mentioned bribing the guards.

The smuggling crew takes you “straight to the concertina wire on motorcycles,” one smuggler told CNN. “Cross the concertina quickly. Move 100 meters deep into Romania, and once in a safe place, send the payment to the crypto wallet.”

Ukraine’s State Border Service told CNN it has a zero-tolerance policy towards corruption. “Our internal security service is actively working to expose any cases of illegal activities, and we always publicly report the detention of our employees, if such cases occur,” spokesperson Andriy Demchenko said.

“Those who are found committing such offenses are held accountable in accordance with current legislation,” he said, adding that “allegations voiced by illegal groups that violate the law must be supported by evidence. Otherwise, it may simply be slander.”

Some men caught trying to leave the country illegally have reported being mobilized shortly afterwards. The decision to avoid the front line is widely seen as shameful in Ukraine, which has fought a defensive war against its much larger and nuclear-armed neighbor.

For taxi driver Pinkhasov, who made it across by himself earlier this month, it was worth it. He has since reunited with his five-month-old daughter in Switzerland.



男爵府

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122#
發表於 25-12-28 15:12 |只看該作者
kwokdicken 發表於 25-12-28 14:53
回覆 Rita 的帖子

連烏克蘭人都明白,打依場仗無義意,空口叫正義果啲人都各懷居心,實際為自己政治利益

所以咪話啲西媒黑媒衰囉, 一面倒係咁話為烏克蘭係為正義, 仲要成日話中國有份幫俄羅斯, 搞到香港有部份仇中份子更堅信要去烏克蘭係好正義兼可以抵抗佢地口中不正義嘅中共

人地司機都已經收咗唔知幾多錢啦, 邊有戰時總統會越做越肥?


子爵府

積分: 14107


123#
發表於 25-12-28 15:13 |只看該作者
SandyKL 發表於 25-12-28 12:57
應該係香港人,見報導話家人已向入境處求助,有一家個阿爸話唔知個仔去咗烏克蘭,我覺得有機會係BNOer。
...

咁如果已經傻咗第一步…都….

每個國家都有激進分子嘅,佢哋喺香港冇出路,咁就去人哋國家激啦,可能呢啲父母都覺得係壯烈殉~


公爵府

積分: 25020


124#
發表於 25-12-28 15:31 |只看該作者
kwokdicken 發表於 25-12-28 14:53
回覆 Rita 的帖子

連烏克蘭人都明白,打依場仗無義意,空口叫正義果啲人都各懷居心,實際為自己政治利益

有人辭官歸故里,有人漏夜趕科場


伯爵府

積分: 18122


125#
發表於 25-12-28 15:35 |只看該作者
金黑街矇 發表於 25-12-28 01:46
我反而想知係地道香港華人?還是只是持中國香港護照嘅「香港人」,我好難想像一個土生土長嘅香港華人會熱 ...

我夠好難想像19年黑暴時,啲傻仔周街打人放火破壞啦,佢哋可能上咗癔諗住好似19年咁好玩呢 [/smile


伯爵府

積分: 18122


126#
發表於 25-12-28 15:37 |只看該作者
ilovehuman 發表於 25-12-28 13:10
其實洗香港人腦最勁係台灣省,希望內地快啲搞掂佢地,班網軍自然會消失,再咁拖落去又冇人阻擋真係有排煩, ...

係,尤其係threads, 簡直係精神病人樂園


象牙宮

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127#
發表於 25-12-28 16:03 |只看該作者
Rita 發表於 25-12-28 14:32
就係烏的形象係受俄欺壓嘛。

唔理前因後果,只講形象 但以巴,巴人都完全受以欺壓,唔覺有港人去為巴人而戰



伯爵府

積分: 17913


128#
發表於 25-12-28 16:29 |只看該作者
以為係記者,原來係去打仗,從冇受訓,去學一個月就出戰?有冇咁兒戲。


珍珠宮

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2024年龍年勳章


129#
發表於 25-12-28 16:43 |只看該作者

回覆樓主:

死因:愚蠢


珍珠宮

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2024年龍年勳章


130#
發表於 25-12-28 16:51 |只看該作者

回覆樓主:

呢D人如果為烏克蘭打仗死唔去,回港就會成為計時炸彈。

反中黒暴份子,有左實戰經驗,第時對香港對國家就會做成更大破壞。


男爵府

積分: 6167


131#
發表於 25-12-28 16:55 |只看該作者
woodpecker 發表於 25-12-28 16:51
呢D人如果為烏克蘭打仗死唔去,回港就會成為計時炸彈。

反中黒暴份子,有左實戰經驗,第時對香港對國家就 ...



男爵府

積分: 6167


132#
發表於 25-12-28 16:56 |只看該作者
gruntel 發表於 25-12-28 12:48
咁正義唔該呢班黃c都去埋一份啦,
真係唔好留係香港。

寧願佢地去埋,好過喺度搞亂香港,一場火災又想出嚟搞事


琥珀宮

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133#
發表於 25-12-28 17:25 |只看該作者
金黑街矇 發表於 25-12-28 15:13
咁如果已經傻咗第一步…都….

每個國家都有激進分子嘅,佢哋喺香港冇出路,咁就去人哋國家激啦,可能呢啲 ...

曾經臨2019年黑暴前,有人係BK開帖講希望香港打仗,嗯!呢位會員去咗邊呢

香港不乏傻人,係佢地角度,為「正義」而戰,犧牲也值得,雖然家人應該唔係咁想啩。


珍珠宮

積分: 34730

畀面勳章


134#
發表於 25-12-28 17:41 |只看該作者
金黑街矇 發表於 25-12-28 01:46
我反而想知係地道香港華人?還是只是持中國香港護照嘅「香港人」,我好難想像一個土生土長嘅香港華人會熱 ...

記得幾年前, 俄烏開戰冇耐,黃屎自己拍 youtube話去烏克蘭參軍,點知去到臨時縮沙


大宅

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135#
發表於 25-12-28 17:43 |只看該作者
cattz288 發表於 25-12-28 01:02
公義喎,比人當做出頭鳥

班傻仔俾烏克蘭人老點上前線
😓



大宅

積分: 2902


136#
發表於 25-12-28 17:44 |只看該作者
ericter 發表於 25-12-28 16:56
寧願佢地去埋,好過喺度搞亂香港,一場火災又想出嚟搞事

sad but true



水晶宮

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137#
發表於 25-12-28 17:53 |只看該作者
對烏來說外國援兵當然要放在最前線,死的又不是他的公民,有人為公義願做炮灰?係地球生活掉了腦子等同掉命沒分別。


男爵府

積分: 6849

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138#
發表於 25-12-28 18:04 |只看該作者
zitamamama 發表於 25-12-28 16:29
以為係記者,原來係去打仗,從冇受訓,去學一個月就出戰?有冇咁兒戲。
...

好似佢喺香港係打開拳,之後唔知乜嘢渠道或者資訊話去法國當兵攞國籍,訓練咗一陣子就派咗去烏克蘭..又或者做咗僱傭兵去烏克蘭,我暫時都未理解到


水晶宮

積分: 73119

BK Milk勳章


139#
發表於 25-12-28 18:29 |只看該作者
my005 發表於 25-12-28 09:56
唉﹗

為人地保家衛國,响佢地心目中係為正義而戰,最後為正義而死,可能佢地都早有預算,呢啲係佢地既選 ...

奇怪在去保衛人哋國家





子爵府

積分: 14049


140#
發表於 25-12-28 18:34 |只看該作者
agnesbee 發表於 25-12-28 15:35
我夠好難想像19年黑暴時,啲傻仔周街打人放火破壞啦,佢哋可能上咗癔諗住好似19年咁好玩呢 [/smi ...
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