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Dear cutecutetown,
Today is Day 11 (embryo transfer being day 0) of my 2nd IVF. Both times no frozen embryo left. This time I had more confident coz the embryos quality was better, and I also got 2 pregnyl injection on day 0 and day 5. However, starting from yesterday, there has been quite some amount of residue of Crinone coming out, sometimes mixed with brownish, yellowish and slightly pinkish discharge. Now I'm really worried about it. I think I probably have failed again, that's why the Crinone can no longer be fully absorbed. Do you know if what I'm thinking is true?

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Dear pibb,

I strongly advise you to call your doc/nurse instead of just guessing and wondering. If your period hasn't returned yet as a normal regular bloody flow, there may have been an implantation event but the endometrium may need a little extra bit of medication to sustain it. I have seen a few of my successful patients innocently thought their M returned and assumed they had failed. Good God they came back to restart another cycle and only then we figured they were actually pregnant already.

I try not to give you false hope in case you had really failed, but at the same time, I don't want you to lose the pregnancy if you really had it. So, don't sit there and wander, make a phone call!!!

Good luck and stay well.
Cutecutetown

原帖由 pibb 於 10-4-16 15:22 發表
Dear cutecutetown,
Today is Day 11 (embryo transfer being day 0) of my 2nd IVF. Both times no frozen embryo left. This time I had more confident coz the embryos quality was better, and I also got 2 pr ...

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sukudo

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cutecutedown

今日report都係唔PASS, (9/4) E2 : 551, (12/4) E2 : 493, (今日) E2 : 380, 右面卵巢水pop (2cm)依然係到, 左面有4個卵泡

醫生打比我, 佢話佢都唔明白點解我既E2咁高, 因為通常人食完通經藥E2都會低, 而且我無排卵, 加上又係人做M, E2都咁高好奇怪, 其實我以前有非典型子宮內膜增生, 所以我都唔知有無影響

我上個cycle係 8-11/4, 而家唯有等多1個cycle, 醫生叫我5月1日再開始食7日通經provera 5mg, 1日2粒, m後第2-3日再返去照ultrasound同blood test

我唔知有d咩我可以做, 我好怕我連ivf既機會都無, 如果e2真係高, 我可以點呢? 有無咩方法/藥物可以改善?

仲有醫生問我有無食開咩healthy product / 中藥, 我話真係無, 中藥1月已經開始無食, 而且我已經唔食雞2年多, 我話我只係多左飲全脂奶同食蛋白, 不過我blood test果幾日有喉嚨痛, 我食過消炎藥, 唔知有無影響呢?

醫生叫我唔好食花膠, 佢話花膠都有雌激素, 想問有d咩食物係有雌激素架?

[ 本帖最後由 sukudo 於 10-4-17 11:37 編輯 ]

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發表於 10-4-17 06:54 |只看該作者

Dear Cutecutetown

Have some updates for you...& questions as well...hehe

One egg had picked up on 8 Apr @ 9am and the embryo transferred on 10 Apr with 4-cell @ 10:30am...the doc/specialist said she looks nice & I think so. I started using Crinone x 2 from the day of egg pick up ... and just wondering, is the Crinone needed to be applied every 12 hours like Synarel? Because I come back to work from 14 Apr and sometimes can't keep it 12 hours...e.g. yesterday, l applied @ 8am in the morning ... but @9pm at night ... will it affect the effect?

Thanks a lot!!

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發表於 10-4-17 15:05 |只看該作者

Dear sukudo,

Is this the first time, or first few times, having Provera 通經? For some people, the process may take more than one cycle.

There is not much a woman can do to simply lower the baseline E2, I mean, it should come low when there is no untimely cyst or folllicle development. In your case, you have these 水pop+卵泡 and they are likely the culprit for your unfavorable E2.

I think your doc is trying to give you/your body a good condition to start ivf so that you can have a good chance from the ivf cycle. I am very confident that you will have an ivf chance, no worry at all :)

Antibiotics shoudn't affect your blood hormones. It is hard to give you a list of food that contains estrogen; it is equally hard to avoid food that may contain 雌激素. As I always said in my postings, everything needs to be done or taken in moderation. Whether you take 花膠 or not don't really matter unless you are having it everyday as a "concentrated" meal. It's rather interesting that you don't eat chicken anymore; is it the growth hormone you worry about?

I have also talked to other jm on BK that try to do some regular exercises, the kind that will get you sweat (a little). It is a difficult "habit" to keep because we easily give up with excuses such as I am too busy, I am too tired, the gym is boring, etc. I may be wrong, but I believe that exercising benefits your whole body. When you do exercises (aerobic ones, those that improve cardiovascular function), you sweat. Sweating is a natural way of de-tox, getting rid of toxic material that built up over time inside your body. I find the shower after exercising is especially rewarding, probably because it is refreshing, which then makes me feel good; the tiredness gives me a better sleep and in the long run, the heart and lungs also get benefits.

So, while you are waiting for 5月1日, stay relaxed, enjoy some TV, have some healthy snacks, try to head to the gym if there is one nearby. Enjoy your weekend.

Cutecutetown

原帖由 sukudo 於 10-4-16 18:10 發表
cutecutedown

今日report都係唔PASS, (9/4) E2 : 551, (12/4) E2 : 493, (今日) E2 : 380, 右面卵巢水pop (2cm)依然係到, 左面有4個卵泡

醫生打比我, 佢話佢都唔明白點解我既E2咁高, 因為通常人食完通經藥E2都會低 ...

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發表於 10-4-17 15:34 |只看該作者

Hi rubyhomffc,

The 12-hour interval is just a rough guide. You are doing fine with one Crinone at 8am and the other at 9pm.

Same logic applies when you had it at 9pm last night, today's morning you can still take it at 8am; then 8pm or 9pm tonight.

Cheers, cutecutetown

原帖由 rubyhomffc 於 10-4-17 06:54 發表
Dear Cutecutetown

Have some updates for you...& questions as well...hehe

One egg had picked up on 8 Apr @ 9am and the embryo transferred on 10 Apr with 4-cell @ 10:30am...the doc/specialist said she ...

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發表於 10-4-18 22:21 |只看該作者

我係第一次做ivf，前兩日驗血知道fail咗，已經係放胎後等十六日，但係宜家仲等緊m嚟。

我想知其實連續做好？定係休息兩個月先再試好？

小蜜蜂

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發表於 10-4-19 02:08 |只看該作者

retrieval three times follicles then ivf

cutecutetown

as I am not sensitive to the medicine, doctor suggests to retrieve three times (means one cycle each) follicles then ivf. Can you give me some advice? what is the adv and disadv? thanks!

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發表於 10-4-19 06:58 |只看該作者

回覆 166# cutecutetown 的文章

Thanks so much!!

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發表於 10-4-19 09:15 |只看該作者

Hello bcai,

What did your doctor advise you, or he/she didn't say anything? I have seen people starting right after m comes, and there is no medical evidence against it.

But my personal opinion is to let your body rest one cycle. I think with ivf, 欲速則不達, let your body and your emotional state recover for ~1month so that you come back with a prepared mind and a strong body.

Good luck!
Cutecutetown

原帖由 bcai 於 10-4-18 22:21 發表
我係第一次做ivf，前兩日驗血知道fail咗，已經係放胎後等十六日，但係宜家仲等緊m嚟。

我想知其實連續做好？定係休息兩個月先再試好？

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發表於 10-4-19 09:35 |只看該作者

Hello MusicTV,

I assume your doctor is saying that after each retrieval, fertilisation will be done and then the resulting embryos will be frozen; after 3 times of such process, you will have accumulated a few embryos for one procedure of embryo transfer.

Advantages:
1. You can have at least 2 embryos to be replaced into your uterus.
2. Your uterus will usually be in a better condition to receive the embryos as the cycle is not "artificially controlled" by the ovarian stimulation drugs.
3. Financially, you save a little from the ET procedure because instead of doing 3 ET's, you will probably only do one.

Disadv:
1. Freeze-and-thaw process may cause damage to embryos. [Notice that if it is a good embryo which is being frozen and thawed in a standard ivf lab, survival rate is 70% or above; in my lab, our survival rate is >85%.]
2. Financially, you spend extra in doing 3 cycles of ivf.

Have you done any ivf before, and if so, the egg number? If this is your 1st time, I think both your doc and you can stay flexible. See how many embryos you produce before deciding fresh ET or freeze.

Cheers, cutecutetown

原帖由 MusicTV 於 10-4-19 02:08 發表
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as I am not sensitive to the medicine, doctor suggests to retrieve three times (means one cycle each) follicles then ivf. Can you give me some advice? what is the adv and disadv? than ...

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cutecutetown

我之前一向有子宮內膜增生既病, 一般6個月就要用 (aspiration) 吸管吸d子宮內膜細胞出去化驗, 全程5分鐘左右唔駛麻醉

我見我1/5先開始食通經, 想問如果黎緊星期六 24/4 去抽細胞check會唔會對5月開始既ivf唔係太好呢?

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發表於 10-4-19 11:21 |只看該作者

sorry I mean I have retrieved 19 eggs. Abt 8 gets fertilized, one grade 2 with 7 cells and one grade 2- with 5 cells are transferred in day 3. None get frozen. Are these no bad at my age?

原帖由 cutecutetown 於 10-4-16 12:39 發表
Dear parker123,

Did you mean you only had 2 out of the 19 eggs fertilized, or instead, you only had 2 embryos transferred and no extra embryos for freezing? These 2 scenarios are very different.

As ...

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Dear sukudo,

Is this aspiration done by the same doctor as your ivf doctor? As long as we are talking about the same doc, he/she will have taken it into consideration.

I think the aspiration shouldn't affect your ivf; on the contrary, it should help to minimize any unknown (negative) effect by these cells as you go through an ivf.

Cutecutetown

原帖由 sukudo 於 10-4-19 09:57 發表
cutecutetown

我之前一向有子宮內膜增生既病, 一般6個月就要用 (aspiration) 吸管吸d子宮內膜細胞出去化驗, 全程5分鐘左右唔駛麻醉

我見我1/5先開始食通經, 想問如果黎緊星期六 24/4 去抽細胞check會唔會對5月開始 ...

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發表於 10-4-19 17:37 |只看該作者

Dear parker123,

Given your age and number of eggs, the result was a little disappointing. But try not to blame yourself or your husband because it might simply be bad luck. I suspect that the average embryo quality was poor, and hence, even the transferred embryo implanted, it turned up to be abnormal.

As some postings ago I mentioned that each cohort of eggs might vary and if you will proceed to another ivf cycle, we can work together based on past experience. The good information gained from your last cycle is that there seems to be no problem for embryo(s) to implant into your uterus. We probably need a competent embryo to give you a baby.

If you weren't using the very pure (recombinant) drugs for stimulation, I think your doc will recommend to you anyway. In the mean time, what are your thoughts in what to do from your side?

cutecutetown

原帖由 parker123 於 10-4-19 11:21 發表
sorry I mean I have retrieved 19 eggs. Abt 8 gets fertilized, one grade 2 with 7 cells and one grade 2- with 5 cells are transferred in day 3. None get frozen. Are these no bad at my age?

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hi cutecuterown

this is the first time ivf as last time from ivf to iui due to only 3 follicles, so this time the doctor suggested the way you've mentioned. first time iui only 3 follicles and second time used gonal f but still the same 3 follicles.

tomorrow will know how many follicles can be used. i don't know what to do. do three times or just one? please advice.

原帖由 cutecutetown 於 10-4-19 09:35 發表
Hello MusicTV,

I assume your doctor is saying that after each retrieval, fertilisation will be done and then the resulting embryos will be frozen; after 3 times of such process, you will have accumul ...

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原帖由 cutecutetown 於 10-4-19 17:16 發表
Dear sukudo,

Is this aspiration done by the same doctor as your ivf doctor? As long as we are talking about the same doc, he/she will have taken it into consideration.

I think the aspiration should ...

係呀, 我就係做aspiration, 我係唔同醫生做, 不過我已問過ivf既醫生, 佢話check左先更好更安全, 因為如果bingo左10個月都check唔到, 不過我有d驚整傷過內膜對普床有影響, 我開始緊張了, 希望report一齊正常

好坦白, 我如果可以順利開始ivf, 我已經好感恩, 事實上我既路好多障礙, 不過我唔會give up, 我知道人生就係咁, 路係要自己行出黎, 多謝你支持我地一班有苦自己知既人....

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發表於 10-4-20 09:58 |只看該作者

Dear MusicTV,

If you are not financially tight, then doing at least 2 retrievals will probably accumulate enough embryos. The goal is to select, in among all the embryos, the good quality one(s) for one time embryo transfer procedure which hopefully should give you a better chance.

This is generally the plan. However, if all your 3 follicles from this time give you 3 good embryos, you may:
1. still consider having the transfer;
2. stick with the plan but do one more cycle and decide;
3. stick with the original plan, i.e. do two more cycles regardless of embryo number and quality.

So, we really need to see how many good embryos you will have after this cycle. Does your doc ask you to make a decision without giving you the flexibility? Are you of a much older age? Is your uterus and uterine lining normal?

I understand you are worried and don't know what to do; and you probably would like me to say the same as your doc (do 3 cycles and ET later). Since this is your first ivf ever and I don't know your age, let's make it simple:
If you have at least 2 good-quality embryos from this cycle, have the ET procedure.
If you don't have at least 2 good embryos from this cycle (i.e. only 1 good and the rest not, or all embryos are just average), then freeze them and do a 2nd cycle.

I hope you feel better now with the options available. Good luck in the coming egg retrieval!

cutecutetown

原帖由 MusicTV 於 10-4-20 00:00 發表
hi cutecuterown

this is the first time ivf as last time from ivf to iui due to only 3 follicles, so this time the doctor suggested the way you've mentioned. first time iui only 3 follicles and secon ...

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