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男爵府

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發表於 04-8-6 09:27 |只看該作者

匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

近期時常收到有關職員來電hard sell
這計劃...本人沒有詳細聆聽......
請問有沒有媽媽有參加此計劃..
可以說說情況或回報嗎? 謝謝!!!


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發表於 04-8-7 16:06 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

spw 寫道:
近期時常收到有關職員來電hard sell
這計劃...本人沒有詳細聆聽......
請問有沒有媽媽有參加此計劃..
可以說說情況或回報嗎? 謝謝!!!

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我相信匯豐應該有幾個保險或儲蓄計劃,
你沒有提及特點,很難知道是那個計劃。

其實最重要是你希望儲蓄的年期長短,
每月供款多少,需否人壽保險,以及需否附加保障等等。

匯豐的計劃我大致看過,有些不錯,不過彈性相對較低。
如你有興趣,我可介紹宏利一些儲蓄計劃,
回報不俗,有320%以上,而且供款彈性大,
一次過付款,到供款二十年都可以。

有興趣不妨聯絡我。


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發表於 04-8-8 07:38 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

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發表於 04-8-8 10:31 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

謝謝 絕世好爸及maxnew的意見!!!
其實對匯豐都有信心.......我老公都叫我細心聽......
不過真是好想知道有沒有媽媽有參與這計劃!!!


民房

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發表於 04-8-8 14:14 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

spw,

我就對匯豐恆生 失信心!

我申請恆生的prestige理財,職員話應該比我最好的服務我,點知,D職員個個樣樣識一半,今日同佢講呢樣野,第日竟然唔記得哂,又要我由頭講過!
申請張白金卡,上兩個星期填哂表格,仲交比一位高級職員,話會搞掂,點知昨日打電話比佢地,你估佢地點答?
佢地竟然話冇收過份表格!再查落去,原來份表格唔見左!
於是我又要落去分行再填過!
以後我都唔會再幫襯恆生。

匯豐都唔好得幾多,排隊入錢,見你戶口有錢,就猛sell你呢樣o個樣,搞到你好鬼煩。
同佢講話我前半年已經買左個儲蓄計劃,佢好似聽唔到,依然繼續sell,話呢個計劃唔同,終於講左十幾分鐘,
到頭來我睇清楚,其實都係我買o個個計劃!

匯豐所有職員全部機械人,你幫襯完佢,佢就唔會再理你,仲有,我問過朋友,佢地好多職員根本冇保險牌,所以佢地講的說話,係冇保証架!


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發表於 04-8-8 19:31 |只看該作者

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發表於 04-8-9 08:52 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

tomatopeppy,maxnew,
謝謝你們的意見,是的......
他們每次致電給我都不同人的,
我想怎樣跟進呀!!!


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發表於 04-8-9 22:44 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

我在匯豐幫我囡囡買了儲蓄保險,你想知什麼資料?


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發表於 04-8-10 08:26 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

hkee33 ,
我想知回報怎樣?是不是可以儲蓄到錢?
謝謝!!!


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發表於 04-8-10 09:20 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

完全同意tomatopeppy


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發表於 04-8-10 23:21 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

我幫小朋友做的儲蓄保險,是她足18歲便取回本金及利息,
大約供款300000,到取回時約390000。
但不能作準,因每年的息口不相同,不過肯定小朋友愈細做供款就愈小。


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發表於 04-8-11 08:42 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

謝謝你hkee33.......
其實你覺得值得嗎?


大宅

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發表於 04-8-11 11:58 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

Do not buy so-called Saving plan with insurance element. All these are merely gimmick. When you do an actual calculation, you find the guarantee portion is just the same as the money you paid out after 20 or 30 years...exlcuding any interest element...The so-called projection is just an assumption using 5% or 6% rate of return....which is not guarantee

It's a better choice for you to simply spilt the money to buy a pure insurance and a pure fund investment. The actual return and flexiblitiy is much much higher....significantly better than those saving + insurance package


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發表於 04-8-11 12:02 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

Most importantly, the over 90% of the first 3-5 years of your money contribution on Saving + insurance package just go to the pocket of the insurance agent.....and it lock your money for over 15 years...if you quit or early redemption, you end up nothing.....

Quit Earlier if you have such plan to avoid huge loss ...


大宅

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發表於 04-8-11 22:44 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

Hi spw

我不知道是否值得?但好處是要自己,每月將一部分錢儲起來。你可以去吓其他銀行問問,看哪一間的回報比較好些。


大宅

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發表於 04-8-12 10:03 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

"好處是要自己,每月將一部分錢儲起來。你可以去吓其他銀行問問,看哪一間的回報比較好些。"

將一部分錢儲起來 --> They just spilt your money into two part: 1) Cover your insurance ; 2) Buy Mutual Fund...

As they buy mutual, and these are monthly saving plan...so the first 3 years go to your Sales pocket, i.e., their salary...It lock over 15 years or more...

So, you can simply spilt it on your own...buy your pure insurance...only a very small amount of money and the rest invest separately into mutual fund...this serve the same purpose and yield a much much higer return...

你可以去吓其他銀行問問, 看哪一間的回報比較好些 -->回報 is just a historical record, does not necessarily guarantee any future 回報. All the 儲蓄保險計劃 make assumption to distract you. They assume, say 5% return every year, and project a very attractive cash flow in the future to attract you....THIS IS NOT GUARANTEE...!!! Majority of 銀行 in HK are just agent...they do not have their own mutual fund !!!! Most importantly, the quality of those retail branch staff in terms of invesmtent knowledge is very very poor .....so better seek more professional advice from others...


民房

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發表於 04-8-12 21:28 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

dummypimp 寫道:
Most importantly, the over 90% of the first 3-5 years of your money contribution on Saving + insurance package just go to the pocket of the insurance agent.....and it lock your money for over 15 years...if you quit or early redemption, you end up nothing.....

Quit Earlier if you have such plan to avoid huge loss ...


係呀係呀,我計過如果供200萬純人壽保險頭20年都係支出十零萬,但儲蓄+保險20年已經支出六、七十萬,就算30-40年後保證金都只得六、七十萬,非常不化算。


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發表於 04-8-12 23:24 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

儲蓄人壽好處係唔加價, 但係純人壽保費係按年齡定期增加, 增幅並唔係 linear, 而係 exponential.

舉個例, 一個不吸煙女士買純人壽港幣200萬, 每年保費:
20歲: $2240
30歲: $2340
40歲: $3020
50歲: $5920
60歲: $15180
70歲: $38160

仲有, 一般純人壽只係保到70-75歲, 唔係終身保障.


auntie1234 寫道:

係呀係呀,我計過如果供200萬純人壽保險頭20年都係支出十零萬,但儲蓄+保險20年已經支出六、七十萬,就算30-40年後保證金都只得六、七十萬,非常不化算。


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發表於 04-8-13 08:31 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

謝謝各位之意見.................


大宅

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發表於 04-8-13 10:16 |只看該作者

Re: 匯豐儲蓄保險計劃

遙遙爸爸,

儲蓄人壽好處係唔加價, 但係純人壽保費係按年齡定期增加, 增幅並唔係 linear, 而係 exponential.

Yes this is correct.

So it all depends on your needs. To me, I buy insurance to protect my family in case if anything happen. When I am already 60 or 70...I think my child had already gone up and I should have completed my responsiblity already. I dont think my child will need to rely on my insurance coverage for living if I were not alive....Even my child were so dumb and not able to make a living on his own, it's already not my responsibility already....

My value is an adult should not rely on an elderly to make a living,...let alone the insurance coverage...

For儲蓄保險, it's not the case that they do not 加價....but those 加價 element of insurance are included in the projected cash flow implicitly....people just do not aware of it....as what they guarantee is just the amount of what you have paid out in the first 20 years even when you are 100 years old....the remaining portion is to be used for insurance and also depending on the rate of return...

Maybe many BK mothers do not understand what I am saying, but in any case, buying them-Mutual Fund and Insurance, separately , must yeild a higher return.....

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