agree. 8+ years for us. we are more far away. he is in china and i am in canada. this is really a hard time for us. i trust him and he send us all the money he earns, only leave a little for himself for daily use. he said he does not need much as he has quarter and meals offered by the factory. we are trying our best to save a certain amount, enough for a few years. we hope that he will come back to stay in canada and these money will be for backup, in case he can't find any job here.