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本帖最後由 chanpai 於 15-7-27 03:06 編輯

大家好,尋尋覓覓感恩找到這裡 BK 的「加拿大媽媽會」, 發現原來許多人有著相同的狀況: 90 年代年少跟家人移民加國, 但一家人因各種原因都沒有坐移民監幾個月後就直接回香港了. 20 多年過去, 看見今天香港的變遷, 現在認真想要回去, 但只得一張 Landing paper (貼在之前香港黑皮的 British Passport 上) 和一張 SIN card.

花了時間看回有關帖子, 有很多有心人分享經驗 (特別是netnetyip, Issac830, …), 了解最直接的方式是嘗試入境後兩年內不離開, 找工作再報稅, 之後申請 PR card, 批不批大概要看個人怎樣說明為什為當年未有留下來.

其它有關帖子都講得很清楚, 但有幾個最後關鍵的問題, 容許我再問問大家 (因為找了幾個移民 agent, 說明了我的情況後, 他們都不願再談, 而直接建議我declare 取消之前的 Landing, 重新申請投資移民):

1. 以 HKSAR passport 入境加拿大時, custom chop是沒有寫上可停留的時限, 但加拿大 CIC 網站有寫一般是指批准 6 個月停留. 所以我雖然是以visitor 入境, 但超過 6 個月部份, 應該是以 Landed Immigrant 身份居留, 同時以永久有效的 SIN card 找工作. 以上我理解對嗎? 因為申請 PR card 時我擔心移民官會 challenge 我為什麼入境時不出示 Landing paper, 而用 visitor 身份.

2. 住滿及工作了至要報稅時間, 如果我是以 Landed immigrant 身份報稅, 那是否在香港的收入都要申報? 如是, 是否另外亦代表我所有的資產都要以 100% 增值來計算 capital gain tax? 因為 20 年來父母都應該未有做過 first tax return filing 和 asset declare.

3. 假設 2 年後真的成功拿到 PR card, 我可否立即申請我的伴侶和未滿 18 歲的孩子以家庭團聚方式辦理移民, 抑或一定要等到我入藉後才可以? 因為我兒子今年底滿 15 歲了.

4. Health card 有什麼用,在這頭兩年是否一定要申請? 申請時 Photo ID 可否用 HKSAR passport 或貼著 Landing paper那本舊香港 British Passport? 抑或一定要是Driving license? 因為我會選擇回 Vancouver, 聽說申請 Driving license 一定要有 PR card.

不好意思, 問題復雜, 希望有過來人可幫倒我, 俾倒其它我可能未有想到的意見, 萬分感謝大家
… 最後, 類似個案, 有真正成功幫倒大家的移民 agent 介紹嗎?

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本帖最後由 ibayadi 於 15-7-27 00:45 編輯

My personally viewpoints:

1. With all due respect, those agents want you to cancel the previous PR and start to apply again, so they can make money on it.
If i were you, I will reapply it if you are qualified in "投資移民" category. If i am not wrong, under new policy you need to put CAD2M for 15 years as investment and you will grant for PR/citizenship after 6 months.

2. good question, this is the foreseeable risk.

3. Technically, it is yes. you need to tell CRA about your worldwide earnings. you may consult professional accountant, but the thing is no tax filing for 20 years, hmmmm.....headache!

4. You can sponsor your spouse and children (younger than 18) once you get your PR card, no need to wait for citizenship.

5. Not sure in BC. For Driver Licence in Alberta, passport and PR card are just fine for getting the first DL. You may try to use your landing paper and tell the registry person that you have lost your PR card. By the way, you need address proof within 3 months.

After asking the above questions, I've found that there are many many uncertainties and risks when you insist to retain your previous PR status. Firstly you need to pass through the Customs at the airport without questioning about you. Secondly, you need to face other difficulties to make up your absences during the past 20 years with many government departments when applying all required document which you SHOULD HAVE DONE 20 years ago!

So as you said "看見今天香港的變遷, 現在認真想要回去"...if I were you, I will think again the suggestion of the immigration agent to cancel the previous PR status and restart again. It is lesser headache and faster way to get you PR again and your family. What happen if you are turned down by the CIC at the time you renew your PR card after you stayed straight for two years? you will find you have wasted for two years for nothing and restart again the game....
It is about you and your family future, think about it deeply, really in depth.

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引用：大家好,尋尋覓覓感欣找到這裡 BK 的「加拿

原帖由 chanpai 於 15-07-26 發表
大家好,尋尋覓覓感欣找到這裡 BK 的「加拿大媽媽會」, 發現原來許多人有著相同的狀況: 90 年代年少跟家人 ...

請不要信移民agent.想你比生意佢做only.我之前想回Canada.亦揾過agent.使左吾少錢攪沙省移民，之後先發現原來身份未完全失去。
當初我先生先去Vancouver試下，但第一站去apply driving licence 已失敗,佢試左幾間，都要出示PR card.佢有apply health card.有張health card statement寄黎，要親身去取card.又要出示PR card先可以攞
B C省health card要比錢。因有health card no.我足足比左over 1年錢去maintain張card.當先生過黎Toronto.佢去apply health card.只當系transfer.所以容易申請到。

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引用：大家好,尋尋覓覓感欣找到這裡 BK 的「加拿

原帖由 chanpai 於 15-07-26 發表
大家好,尋尋覓覓感欣找到這裡 BK 的「加拿大媽媽會」, 發現原來許多人有著相同的狀況: 90 年代年少跟家人 ...

我明年先夠期申請P R card.有一同事以前系Canada 移民局度做，佢話我case 100%會申請到P R.
我地H K人好彩，用特區護照進入Canada免簽証，只要你入了境，之後申請番driving licence.health card.跟本同本土人冇分別。若移民局會問点解用visitor身份入境，理由好簡單，我想成為Canadian.
That\'s the only way.
你若plan 去Vancouver.冇driving licence作為photo I D.我諗會比較麻煩。系Toronto.若冇driving licence.都要有安省發出之I D or P R card 。
或者你過黎Toronto攞左driving license，之後再transfer to Vancouver.

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引用：My personally viewpoints:1. With all due

原帖由 ibayadi 於 15-07-27 發表
本帖最後由 ibayadi 於 15-7-27 00:45 編輯

My personally viewpoints:

系Toronto若有health card.睇醫生系免費，药費不包。若冇health card，睇醫生會好貴，我年半前入境，三個月後都申請到Health card.攞到health card.感覺上又近P R 多一步(其實系冇關係的)，我出年一月尾就夠期可申請PR card.希望一切順利

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引用：大家好,尋尋覓覓感恩找到這裡 BK 的「加拿

原帖由 chanpai 於 15-07-26 發表
本帖最後由 chanpai 於 15-7-27 01:40 編輯

因為申請 PR時我擔心移民官會 challenge 我為什麼入境時不出示 Landingpaper, 而用 visitor 身份.

你擔心得太多，若真系問，我會答:因為睇到好多case.若用landing paper入境，有機會會吾比我入境，我實在太渴望回來生活，所以我用visitor入境。照直講！

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本帖最後由 chanpai 於 15-7-27 02:42 編輯

首先感謝大家用心的回應.

我想我跟 netnetyip 的 case 很似, 只是我的兒子沒有 land 過, 同時快 15 歲了, 所以時間上很緊張.

想聽聽 netnetyip 對於我關於報稅疑問妳的建議, 因為妳到加大概已經 1.5 年了, 是否報了第一次稅? 同時如果妳這次有在 Toronto 買樓, 之前錢是用什麼名目與方式匯進來? 這個物業和其它境外資產 (如有), 在報稅時, 妳是用什麼 approach 填報和處理? 因為我猜妳現在應該是以 landed immigrant 的身份報稅?

報稅這點暫時我是完全毫無頭緒與把握可能需要付出的金錢成本, 其它的如妳所講, 就是如實說出當年未能留底的原因和現在自已回加的決心.

謝謝.

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本帖最後由 chanpai 於 15-7-27 03:06 編輯

回覆 ibayadi 的帖子

ibayadi, thanks for taking the time to give your wholehearted comment.

I have been exploring the PNP investment class immigration since last Oct and probably you know why when it was after the student movement last year. But only to discover the then old scheme has piled up tons of applicants and there is no guarantee on the processing and approval time even if it would be considered. And since my son is approaching the age of 18 in 3 years time, not many options left for me.

I am aware of the new investment class scheme but the amount is rocket high at CAD2m. This year's depreciating CAD did help a lot but the timeframe is 15 years without any guarantee of return or even the capital. So we haven't seriously look into it yet.

But one good news you have provided is that I can apply for my son once I get my PR card but not citizenship. So I can still give it a bet, given I have got 3 years before he turns 18, if finally I choose to go for netnetyip's way.

But it seems that the tax issue is the real challenge even I choose to give up everything in HK and stay in BC for 2 straight years. I just have no clues as of now how to proceed with this.

Good luck to all those having similar stories ...

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引用：首先感謝大家用心的回應.我想我跟 netnetyi

原帖由 chanpai 於 15-07-27 發表
本帖最後由 chanpai 於 15-7-27 02:42 編輯

首先感謝大家用心的回應.

我系Toronto找了專業會計師幫我報稅，我年半前入境，並未有over 税外滙錢要滙報，(今年一月改了，每月若over 10000，銀行有責任滙報)就算要滙報，只要有証明所有資產均由正常途徑滙入，而是為買樓之用.根本不需要擔心。正如你所說，若攪投資移民，需要2 m cad.就算你比小小税，相比是少量金額。

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回覆 chanpai 的帖子

If you plan to stay 2 years straight in Canada to retain your PR status, do it AS SOON AS THE MOST POSSIBLE. CIC can take a year to renew PR card especially with the case like you though you will stay for 2 years straight. They may ask for additional information which is time consuming and do not expect people in Canada will do their works as fast as HKers. Your son turns to 18 in 3 years which means you have to apply sponsorship application right away after you have granted PR renewal.....sorry to tell you that this is also a risk if you cannot gain your status back right on time before your son becomes adult.

So, make up your mind, pack up your things, and do hesitate NO MORE....time is clicking

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發表於 15-7-28 11:21 |只看該作者

楆主，你可以坐兩年，離開家人，沒有工作(或者隨便找工)，等等。。。換來身份嗎? 或者你仔可先用學生身份一起去坐。

但他十五歲，需要父母關懷。要考慮他喎。

祝你好運

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netnetyip 發表於 15-7-27 20:13
我系Toronto找了專業會計師幫我報稅，我年半前入境，並未有over 税外滙錢要滙報，(今年一月改了，每月若ove ...

謝謝妳的說明 netnetyip. 我和妳的想法一樣, 應該要交的稅就交. 但因為我還不太了解稅務的內容, 所以想大概有個概念.

所以每月少於 CAD10k 正途匯入, 就不用報稅? 我以為都是要計妳的資產增值, 因為假設當時妳 97 年 land 時並未有 declare to follow 的金額.

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引用：Quote:netnetyip 發表於 15-7-27 20:13 我

原帖由 chanpai 於 15-07-28 發表
謝謝妳的說明 netnetyip. 我和妳的想法一樣, 應該要交的稅就交. 但因為我還不太了解稅務的內容, 所以想大 ...

今年一月起，所有超過10000cad滙款，銀行要滙報稅局，我好彩系一年半前滙入，暫時不受影響。
我幾個月前問過Canada Hsbc staff.佢地話若証明所滙資金由正常途徑(例如H K賣樓),就算over 10000系冇問題的。

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我都計劃緊4-5年後跟老公一起移民去加拿大, 與chanpai 同樣有些報稅問題唔知有無人清楚啲可以話我知?
老公兒時完成了land immigrant. 回流香港時申請為non-resident.
我本身不是加藉, 決定移民時間後會早一年前申請移民手續。
現有以下問題希望有朋友能解答到:
1) 我在香港擁有1 物業及stock。請問當我移民過加國後, 稅款是怎樣計算? 加國是worldwide tax, 啲資產係咪截止我離開香港的數開始計? 如果我個物業無賣出又無租出去, 咁係咪唔需要交稅? 股票如果無賣出, 係咪只需報番每年總收的股息而納稅? 要納總收股息的幾多% ?
2) 老公回加國後有什麼手續要做? PRCard 係咪要住滿6個月先拿到? Maple card幾時先可以申請得? 係咪要有maple card 先可以揾工做? Health card 又幾時可以申請?
3) 請問有無多啲有關加拿大以外的資產及收入的繳納稅款/稅率, 可以提供多啲資料給我?
Thanks a lot !

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請問如果連SIN都無，得張廿年前land紙，咁仲有冇得攪？有冇机會攪到張SIN呢？

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引用：請問如果連SIN都無，得張廿年前land紙，咁

原帖由 綠荳媽媽 於 16-03-12 發表
請問如果連SIN都無，得張廿年前land紙，咁仲有冇得攪？有冇机會攪到張SIN呢？

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應該係申請過SIN,但已唔見咗

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