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It is always a query in my mind. I always thought that the moms in Oz (or other places out of Hong Kong) were so tough. How could they take care the family on their own without anyone helps? The unit/ house size is bigger than that of Hong Kong. There is a garden and a garage in addition to the house. They have to drive and buy all the daily things themselves, and picking up the kids as well. How do they work?

I can't imagine if I could do all the things. Could I?

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Generally speaking, Oz mums can get help from childcare center, and the husbands, at least.

Fridge storage can be huge if you want.

Bringing kids out and shopping is much more convenient than in HK if you can drive. You can even push a double seat stroller though supermarket cashiers with no trouble. Everyone can do it without a helper. :D

If you have to do it, you can do it.

But of coz, the free time that HK moms can get from having maids is a "day dreaming" for OZ moms. We can't go out have fun and back home at midnight. We can't just leave the kids and family behind and go travel by ourselves at will.

Good luck!

原帖由 puib 於 09-5-22 18:54 發表
It is always a query in my mind. I always thought that the moms in Oz (or other places out of Hong Kong) were so tough. How could they take care the family on their own without anyone helps? The unit/ ...

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這point我反而覺得oz有佢既好處,
oz係baby friendly的國家,
地方大,我就可以有大雪櫃&急凍櫃,
唔洗日日要帶住囝囝去買餸,
oz的central market及supermarket都好大,買得好自在,唔洗人迫人,bb車又入到.
有車(又有好多車位)方便買好多野,
都唔怕拿不起.
囝囝可以找家人or朋友幫忙都ok.

我而家在hk,想一次過買哂一week的食物都有困難......

[ 本帖最後由 LilianLegend 於 09-5-23 13:35 編輯 ]

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The other thing you can do is to build up your social network i.e. other mums. I joined my local mothers' group and met some some great girlfriends there. I've also got a lot of good friends here who have also become mothers over the last couple of years. My friends will babysit my son so that my husband and I can still go out to have fancy dinner and come home late (11:00pmish). I will do the same for them. It is soo important to keep the magic of your relationship going!!!!

I'm also very lucky that my mum (from HK) and parents-in-law (fron NZ) will fly in to help us!!! They have come to visit us at least 2-3 times a year and each time they stay for 4-8 weeks since we had Max 2 yrs ago. They are retirees so they have the time, plus they are very willing to help us with housework and looking after Max. They see it as a great opportunity to build the bond with Max.

Indeed my in-laws came in April to look after Max while my husband and I travelled to Europe and Tokyo for 3 weeks! Yes it was a bold move but I trusted my in-laws dearly. They would do what I tell them. They pretty much adopt the parenting principles I laid down for Max (well a little less strict :). They did a great job looking after Max. Max adored them too. It was an amazingly trip - just unreal!!!! What a great way to re-connect with hubby:) When we came back, Max was a happy boy. We had a big hug and kiss, it was mother and son again! straight away! My in-laws are committed to come again so that my hubby and I can bugger off travelling again.

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Thanks for your sharing. I think it is a must to have a big refrigerator in Oz. I have driving license, but seldom drive in HK. Really hope to improve the driving skill through daily practice in Oz.

原帖由 honeybogi 於 09-5-22 22:00 發表
Generally speaking, Oz mums can get help from childcare center, and the husbands, at least.

Fridge storage can be huge if you want.

Bringing kids out and shopping is much more convenient than in HK ...

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我都好鍾意Oz的supermarket，又大又舒服，加上有大量車位，唔使排隊入停車場。不過有時會諗，如果一個媽咪要帶住個初生bb買野，點樣一邊查車一邊睇住bb？

原帖由 LilianLegend 於 09-5-23 13:30 發表
這point我反而覺得oz有佢既好處,
oz係baby friendly的國家,
地方大,我就可以有大雪櫃&急凍櫃,
唔洗日日要帶住囝囝去買餸,
oz的central market及supermarket都好大,買得好自在,唔洗人迫人,bb車又入到.
有車(又有好多 ...

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You are so lucky. You could have supports from your social net and your parents-in-law. It seems they have share your duty at least 1/3 a year. I can't imagine. Very nice~~

原帖由 scorpio19 於 09-5-24 07:19 發表
The other thing you can do is to build up your social network i.e. other mums. I joined my local mothers' group and met some some great girlfriends there. I've also got a lot of good friends here wh ...

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you're lucky, Scorpio19. It's kinda hard to have grand-parents who can go align with our kid policy. My sister has been suffering from the inconsistency between "her" policy and that of my parents.

I'm in my first trimester pregnancy thinking about who can help take care of my child. The good thing is I've got mom-network to help.

Going overseas after the child is born seems a dream to me.

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yes, I always say that the bigger ones' home (and garden), the more work to do. keke ... and that's quite different from HK.

Somehow people can manage as they have different expectations.

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Yes, it also brings me a big headache as I can have everything done and prepared by my helper now in HK, particularly the household works and cooking. I need to be more inependent after moving to OZ this late year.

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mocha, ipip-tummy, KWOKS:

Yep, days must be more challenging if go without maids and... bigger house. Now I am still in HK, but I always believe, despite increased housework in Oz, the air, the life style and the pace in Australia will compensate the hardship.

I know there are no concrete solutions for this topic. It is just for mommys' sharing. So happy to get much feedback from all of you. It has already gave me a warm support.

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hey puib, I'm so with you. I'd rather have the peace, space and lifestyle here in sydney. I love my personal space, it would be hard for me to live with a maid in HK if we were living in a small pokey apartment.

The other thing you can do here is try to hire a live-in maid here in Sydney. You can place an ad in the local chinese newspaper. I believe the market rate is around AUD 60 per day depending on suburbs and exp and amount of work etc. You don't get any child care rebate though so it will be 100% out of pocket.

I used to have a philipino helper come in to help me 5 days a week. But it ended up rather expensive. But I was working so that was ok. Given that I didn't have to do any housework and my son was well looked after - so money well spent!!!! The good thing was she spoke perfect English so when there were any emergencies like taking my son to doc she had no trouble. But if you have a chi maid (most of them don't speak much English. if they do, I am sure the rate will be higher!), these are the issues you need to consider. You can still do it. It will just mean you will be making the phone calls or interpreting for her. The good side though is this maid can speak chinese to your children. My hubby is Gweilo so I am the only person speaking Cantonese to my son. Not enough.

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發表於 09-7-6 16:55 |只看該作者

Hi, Mocha

Are are planning to OZ as well?

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Which region are you moving to? Have you got approval already?
Yep, I can join but prefer Saturday as I am a working mom.

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