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男爵府

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發表於 05-4-29 08:53 |只看該作者

我有問題想問大家意見!

我工人偷錢呀!都幾肯定架啦, 但係冇證據, 我可以點做呀?

我真係勢估唔到, 佢平時好乖, 又抵得諗, 到現在我都仲係唔敢相信呢個係事實, 我之前一路都冇懷疑過佢, 係我老公最先對佢有懷疑, 我仲幫佢口話佢唔會, 係我老公論盡將d$$周圍放,唔好懷疑佢. 直至尋日, 我老公再放$$入柜跟住我地出街同亞仔返playgroup,工人留在家中, 返到屋企d$$真係少咗呀!

點算呀?


伯爵府

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2#
發表於 05-4-29 09:01 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

如果係我, 一係直接問佢有冇咁做 (平心靜氣同佢傾下), 一係就當無事發生, 以後唔好放d錢o係櫃筒, 因為你又無實質o既證據可以指證佢, 都做唔到d咩囉 不過以後真係唔好再將d錢隨便放o係屋企, 咁樣對大家都好d


男爵府

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3#
發表於 05-4-29 09:27 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

pauline, 唉, 我老公好"lau gau", d野(incl. 錢)周圍放, 我都唔知點跟佢手尾.

你話炒佢好唔好?


伯爵府

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發表於 05-4-29 09:40 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

老實講, 其實你都已經對工人失去左信心, 就算你繼續用佢, 你都會成日心掛掛, 驚佢唔知幾時又偷d乜, 總之屋企一唔見野, 你就會第一時間諗起佢囉, 但其實只係可能係你老公亂咁放, 而唔係工人偷, 所以我都覺得如果可以的話, 換過一個工人都好ge, but你炒依家lee個會唔會要賠償或者有d咩麻煩野架? 因為我無請工人ge經驗, 所以lee方面我幫唔到你咯


男爵府

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發表於 05-4-29 09:46 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

其實今次係我老公trap佢架, 所以都pretty sure. 但係要補一個月俾佢又好似唔係好抵, 事關問題响佢度嘛. 我都係第一次請工人, 都唔知點做. 我真係大受打擊呀, 點解佢地平時可以咁扮野,人不可以貌相呀!


伯爵府

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發表於 05-4-29 10:07 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

你可以去"論盡家傭"呢個topic睇下有冇人幫到你


大宅

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發表於 05-4-29 10:14 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

I agree that you should ask your maid directly. Depending if you want to keep her, I would "scare" her by saying that you will report to the police. Maybe you should report to the police (so there may be a record against her name)!

Did you hire her through an agent? If so, maybe you should speak with the agent about it.

If I am you, I will start looking for a new maid. I don't think I can have someone whom I don't trust in the house, even if it means paying her an extra month (but like you said, very 唔抵!) Also, if you are going to get rid of her, you should consider putting her name on the black list so other mums can be aware of her.


大宅

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發表於 05-4-29 10:24 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

Cynthia,
Speak with her first. But appears that you need to fire her instead as you would not sure whether similar stuff would happen again. Moreover, if she is near the end of the contract, then it's fine. But if you have just started her contract a few months ago, it's worth to get a new one as it is hard to maintain or rebuild the trust again.
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大宅

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發表於 05-4-29 10:30 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

Cynthia,

Hmm.. it is a tough decision.
Well, if I were you, I will continue to hire this maid for a while and keep watching. You never sure whether the next maid will be good or not. I have heard a lot of bad story about maids already, so your case is not an except.

Meanwhile, I suggest you to buy a mini safe to keep all the money and valueables. I got one also from Pricerite (~$700). I keep all the $$, important documents inside.


複式洋房

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發表於 05-4-29 10:37 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

Hi Ian Cynthia,

我都贊成你抄佢, 因佢已經失去信譽, 除o左錢之外, 會唔有其他o野呃你? 如果o係工人偷錢o既話,你o係唔需要補一個月比佢.
[img align=left]http://lilypie.com/baby1/050603/3/16/5/+8[/img]


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發表於 05-4-29 10:38 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

cynthia,
個陣我奶奶係屋企唔見左電話, 佢同班朋友係屋企打牌, 食完飯, 個電話唔見左.
跟住我奶奶就話係我工人偷. 佢都話同佢上差館. 工人就話佢無偷呀...但係搵過晒佢間房, 都無搵到, 所以都無證據.
我信我工人無偷佢個電話, 因為我奶奶d野不嬲都周圍亂咁放, 同埋不排除係佢班朋友拎左, 同埋佢都係一個好虔誠ge 回教徒.
我而家都仲用緊個工人, 我之後都試過好多次, d 錢放係衫袋呀, 檯面呀, 亞仔個奶粉袋呀, 佢都會幫我整齊佢放番係我檯面.
我都好同意wenwan咁買個minisafe, 因為佢湊您bb湊得好, 下個工人未必.


大宅

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發表於 05-4-29 11:15 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

Cythnia,
如果好肯定佢偷錢嘅話, 我一定唔會姑息, 枉你平日仲對佢咁好... 等我諗下點樣對付佢先:

1.呢段時間你最好物式定另一個工人,需知手續要成兩個月
2.如呢個工人係經agent請嘅, 一定要同佢bargain free commission & airticket免費同你換過個, 因為佢地介紹左個賊比你, 一定要負責任.
3. take定佢嘅罪證, 最好屋企有dc拍低, & 銀紙mark 低no.作記認 (以後出糧比票佢或直接入佢戶口, 免得佢反駁係salary)
4a. 新工人到當日先帶證人(agent)到場當面摷柜桶, 如有發現立即踢佢走或call police, 搵唔到最多補番一個月比佢走...期間唔好比佢知你發現左佢, 否則要佢照顧個b日日都提心跳擔
(或4b). 馬上trap多佢一次, 要佢簽承認書, &當面答應唔會再有下次就俾次機會佢唔報警, meanwhile, 當然係搵定新工人, 到新工人返工當日就即刻叫佢走la!!

以上純係個人意見, 你再考慮下, 希望幫到你la!


男爵府

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發表於 05-4-29 15:04 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

多謝咁多位媽咪嘅分享/意見!! Tinna, 多謝你幫我諗得咁詳細, 你唔講我真係唔識咁做呀.

其實佢今次偷錢, 我可以報警嗎? 我冇證冇據喎. 如果我問佢嘅話, 會唔會冇彎轉?俾著我都唔會認啦. 如果佢真係肯簽承認書, 可否用承認書做抄佢嘅理由? 我老公好唔憤氣要補一個月俾佢要佢走.

我呢兩日心情好差(頭痛咗兩日啦), 好似俾人出賣嘅感覺. 我覺得平時都待佢不薄, 佢生日我仲請佢食lunch同封利是俾佢. 為咗少少錢攪到咁, 都唔知為乜.

其實我請佢係主要做家務, 煮飯同煲粥仔俾bb, 湊仔都係我自己嚟. 所以就算抄佢, 對bb嘅影響好細, 只係又要由頭再train過一個, 覺得好煩, 又唔知新嗰個會點.

我個朋友話天下烏鴉一樣黑, 我真係好信唔過佢地. 如果請本地人會唔會好貴架?




複式洋房

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發表於 05-4-29 15:40 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

Cynthia,

To me, I would fire her immediately but without one month payment. As this is your trap, you may tell her that you knew of her practice already for long. So, ask her to write a resign letter otherwise you call the police.

As you are taking care of Ian yourself, I don't think you have a big problem for training another maid. So, don't give her any chance coz I don't think it would help.

Don't be so kind to the maids as they won't appreciate it at all.........

By the way, local maids are more expensive but hope you understand that it's not about local or non-local, it's all about their personality.
Rebecca:-D Ian's Album


男爵府

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發表於 05-4-30 00:07 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

我自己就傾向抄佢嘅, 但係今日又有新發展:

我老公jeff一路以為唔見咗$100rmb, 但其實唔只. 因為jeff只係响同我&ian下午返playgroup前點過數, 佢上午未點數. 但今日再計過條數, 原來下午比早上已經少咗$300rmb, ie total 同一日裏面唔見咗$400rmb, 分兩次偷, 第一次偷時我在家呀!!!

於是jeff今日一放工返屋企就好惡咁同佢講知道佢偷錢, 問佢認唔認, 佢起初唔認, 仲話乜野係rmb. jeff同佢講如果佢認, 今次就算, 俾10mins佢考慮, 結果佢攞番呢$400出嚟.

問佢係唔係有financial problem所以偷, 佢話唔係, 偷錢原因係想collect唔同國家貨幣喎....都唔知佢係唔係當我地係 LU LU, 咁都可以做excuse.

如果唔係jeff應承佢認罪就算數, 我一定會抄佢(一日偷兩次喎, 好狠死呀!但我又要尊重jeff嘅決定). 依家draft咗張認罪信, 叫咗佢sign. 又講明我地會reserve the right to terminate the contract without prior notice and without compensation.唔知有冇法律效力, 但希望嚇吓佢都好.

不過以後都唔知點面對佢.


大宅

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發表於 05-4-30 00:22 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

嘩!會唔會this is not her first time, 次前偷咗幾多都唔知!都係快啲get a new helper. In the meantime, keep an eye on her!

BTW, 本地工人幾貴,我次前都有consider請本地工人, 好似要成$7k/month (but I can't really remember, only that it was expensive),但係你probably only need her a few hours a day, so maybe cheaper.


複式洋房

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發表於 05-4-30 02:01 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

The letter she signed is no use. I suggest you ask her to write a resign letter but the date is empty. By the date you don't need her, you don't have to pay her 1month notice.

The excuse that she has is also a lie, this is not a one that could change. Please don't keep her for long. It's a bomb, take good care!!!
Rebecca:-D Ian's Album


大宅

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發表於 05-4-30 06:09 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

cynthia,我諗你都係早炒早著,唔係佢偷幾多錢或者認唔認0既問題,係佢0既行為好hurt一直信任同對佢好0既你,而你無可能當無發生過,之後成日有heart feeling同要不斷懷疑及 check住佢,咁0既日子點過?jeff只係話唔報警0者,無話唔炒佢呀?可以叫佢自己辭職嗎?橫掂夜晚都係你湊仔,朝早請鐘點會唔會平0的呢?


子爵府

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發表於 05-4-30 09:15 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

雖然我無請過工人,但呢件事駛唔駛通知Agent呢? ?-(


男爵府

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發表於 05-4-30 10:00 |只看該作者

Re: 我有問題想問大家意見!

我已經通知咗agent, 佢話就話會blacklist佢個名囉.

我諗我會聽rebecca意見叫佢sign定一份冇date嘅resign letter嚟保障番我地. 我老公話今次事件自己都要負番一d責任, 因為佢將$$周圍放所致. 而且就算炒咗佢, 新嚟嘅都唔guarantee佢冇問題.

我可以原諒佢偷野, 但係佢竟然趁我地在家都照偷, 呢樣我真係好嬲. 估計佢係趁執房時候落手, 可以咁狼死有人在家都照偷, 佢睇怕都偷到好熟手, 好多次啦!!

我又唔想老公言而無信, 唯有從今自己小心d, 將所有貴重野都lock 住. 出街鎖房門囉.真係好煩.

都諗過請local part-time, 但係假如一日做8-9hrs, 會好貴. 同埋問題不在於國籍, 而係在於個人嘅personality.



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