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本帖最後由 big007 於 12-1-7 03:53 編輯

請問各位媽媽對 private school有冇乜嘢 idea 咁呢？
讀 private school同讀public school嘅分別喺邊？
private school 啲 tuition fee 都幾貴吓！

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big007 發表於 12-1-7 03:53
請問各位媽媽對 private school有冇乜嘢 idea 咁呢？
讀 private school同讀public school嘅分別喺邊？
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我住嘅地區學校好
覺得唔需要花＄讀私立

但係我們搬返來前本來係諗住去somewhere else
喺學區唔好嘅地方
打算比啲仔讀私立

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meatballs 發表於 12-1-7 04:40
我住嘅地區學校好
覺得唔需要花＄讀私立

私立學校係點嘅呢？
聽人講過，話少啲學生？係咪咁樣呢？

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big007 發表於 12-1-7 04:54
私立學校係點嘅呢？
聽人講過，話少啲學生？係咪咁樣呢？

都唔係～
我識得嘅私立都係好好嘅學校
唔同香港
讀唔到先搵私立讀

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meatballs 發表於 12-1-7 04:58
都唔係～
我識得嘅私立都係好好嘅學校
唔同香港

我呢邊都係呀，啲私立學校都幾好吔（都係聽人講）
出名果啲唔係有錢就可以讀。要test, interview .....

有啲個 waiting list 唔知長到去邊？
咁犀利嘅？

咁貴學费，都咁多人讀！

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we live in a very good school district. all the public schools from elementary to high school with API scores of 900+. with three public elementary schools to choose from.
my husband and i still always debating if we should keep our son at the private school. i told him it's better to keep him at private school til at least finished elementary school or maybe even longer. for boys, they need more attention than girls!

in general, the class size of private schools are smaller than public schools. however, some money-making private schools try to take as many students as they can, and their class sizes might be about the same as those in the public schools.

also, in general, the academic standards at most private schools are a bit higher. for my friends who send their kids to the good public schools, they do a lot of extra work after school to supplement or push their kids to the higher academic levels. since my son is very lazy and never listened to me at home, i think it's better for him to have more challenging curriculum at school, and he can have more time to play after school.

when the kid is at high school's age, i might be worried about the moral standards of the peer groups at the public schools. even if u stay in a good school district and most parents are rich, they might not have time to care about their kids' behaviors, etc.

so, going to public or private school, i think it all depends on the kid's personality.

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by the way, the tuition at Christian and Catholic private schools are in general much cheaper than the non-religious ones.

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bee_happy 發表於 12-1-7 05:12
we live in a very good school district. all the public schools from elementary to high school with ...

我哋呢度有啲private school，一班得6－8個學生。我好surprise 呀！講緊嘅係小學同中學，唔係 pre-school 喎！

我都有擔心 "when the kid is at high school's age, i might be worried about the moral standards of the peer groups at the public schools. " 呢個問題呀！睇新聞，呢個問題都幾犀利！

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big007,

do u live in a small town? or is it a small school?
otherwise, only 6-8 kids in a class might not be a good sign to me! i'm expecting about 15-18 (and no more than 20) kids in a class for a good private elementary school.

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我同老公都傾過無數次呢個問題，其實都冇一定邊樣好，係好睇個小朋友個性同埋遇到嘅老師，我住呢度好多人爭好嘅公校，年年都要攪珠，有人可以揀10間，10間都派唔到，等第二輪唔得，第三輪都派唔到好，最後唯有去私立，但私立都有好幾隻，Christian或Catholic會平D，大幾七千一年，未計donation同幾十個鐘volunteer work，通常紀律會嚴D，popular果D都有廿幾人一班，少唔過公校。冇宗教信仰果D私校，我見過US$27K一年，未計donation，但又未必讀完識飛天。

最近有個同事同我講，佢比較過同年嘅公校私校小朋友，估唔到原來而家好多公校教嘅係深過私校，K到2或3都係公校小朋友優勝D，但由3開始到5，私校一般都較出色。

喺我去睇學校過程中，我最興問校長老師一個問題：如果我小朋友學習較其他同學慢，學校有咩會做去幫佢？出乎意料之外，好多私校係冇咩支援，好多會refer你去搵tutors，當然家長要自己俾錢啦，我聽過$50一個鐘。反而有D公校係有programs去幫小朋友，我仔有學習問題、社交問題，而家老師會特別睇住，成日同我地傾仔仔情況，校長又已幫我地申請校區嘅資源。不過又唔係所有公校校長都會咁做，有D最好家長自己處理，唔好拖累個API，私校更加冇定案，唔夠學生嘅會收，但老師校長未必識教，又係要靠自己；有時真係要睇彩數，遇著個有冇H嘅老師校長。

一班得6至8個學生，我會有D保留，一來小朋友socializing會有問題，因為去到中學或高中，一般學校都好大，小朋友會唔適應，另外咁少學生，學校點維持，除非好多班又收好貴學費，如果唔係都好難生存。

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本帖最後由 big007 於 12-1-8 04:05 編輯

bee_happy, rose-mag,

一班得6至8個學生 that school is a quite famous private school in here. 不過我就覺得唔知點咁囉！

請問吓一般公校一班有幾多個學生吔？

我哋consider private school, 係因為仔仔好 gentle 吔! 人人都係咁講！喺一班小朋友入面，仔仔唔會係蝦人果個，但會係比人蝦果個囉:(

我想仔仔惡啲呀，唔會咁易比人蝦嘛！ha ha..........

睇新聞，見到啲 bully 情況，真係好令人擔心。咁我哋就諗，private school 會唔會嚴啲呢？咁學生啲行為又會唔會好啲呢？

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usually catholic schools are stricter.

for academics, as i said, most Asian parents at the public schools pushed their kids to more advanced levels by giving them supplemental homework after school or sending them to tutoring center. almost everybody does that at the public schools in Cupertino, Fremont Mission San Jose areas in bay area CA.

for standards of private schools, they vary a lot! usually the academic standards of Christian and Catholic schools might be a bit lower than the non-religious private schools, as they also spend more time on the religious studies, moral/ethics on the kids.

for my friends who live in S.F. or Daly City in CA, they didn't even try to send their kids to the public schools. i guess mostly because of the peer groups there. lots of new immigrants in S.F. one of my friends who teaches at a public elementary school in S.F. told me that some parents don't even know how to pronounce their kids' American names.

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class size of public elementary schools - depends on which school district.

for instance, in our school district:
k-3: up to 20
4-5: try to keep it at 28, but sometimes could be up to 31 or 32

some other school districts in bay area CA:
k: 20 (am and pm sessions, so there could be an overlap of about 1.5 hour for both am and pm classes for lunch and recess).
1-3: some schools up to 23/class, some schools up to 30/class
4-5: 32 or more

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分享一個個案：我同事有兩個仔，但因為攪珠派唔到好學校，所以佢就送兩個仔去讀私校。去到個大仔升高中，我問佢打算幫個仔報邊間，同事話多數會揀私立，因為個仔慣咗私立學校嘅環境，人人都好gentle，冇bullying，所以如果去到公立高中，佢個仔一定唔適應。咁我問如果去到大學又點算？始終出到社會會面對更多人，同事話應該都會送個仔去讀私立大學，其實咁樣係咪真係對佢好呢。

個個校區學校、學生背景都唔同，好難講點做好，私校都唔一定係樣樣都高，因為私校唔受校區管，就好似一盤生意咁，唔會因為一個學生改變，我自己識人就係由私校轉公校，又有人出名學校，覺得個API高就一定好，幾年前就有一間API多過910嘅名牌公校，有一個學生被發現全年都冇交功課，老師居然唔通知家長，反而求其俾一個分，最後一年後被揭發，所以唔係API高就最好，我見更多係俾好多功課去谷學生，學生讀得辛苦，家長老師都好大壓力。

SF公校K係大約24，有D學校少D，因為收唔夠學生，私校我見過去到28。我另一個同事個仔讀私校，佢話上到3rd Grade以上，有D班去到34人。

Bee_happy，SF學校好參差，睇學校喺邊區，有中文讀嘅學校一般都較多華人，但都唔一定，大多數新移民家長英文唔好，對班上參與都活躍，但對PTA就唔多關心，學生成績好壞反而冇一定關係，最大問題係學生嘅品德同價值觀，但又係一年年，好似我仔讀果班，因為係雙語班，真係好多大陸新移民生嘅子女，有D好乖好有禮貌，有D女仔會講粗口，有D男仔就講大話同bully，我親眼見過我仔俾人蝦，因為我剛好去班上做義工，小息時俾我見到，我即時制止，教訓完仔仔（因為仔仔俾人推，佢本能反應推番人），再教訓首先推人果個，我有同老師反映過，班主任話佢都清楚每個學生品性，推人果個小朋友成日攪麻煩嘢，又好叻講大話，所以老師會因應情況俾punishment，當然我會自己再解釋俾仔仔聽要點樣應付bully，教識佢保護自己緊要過將佢放入一個無箘環境中。

唔係種族歧視，但真係唔係個個種族對教育下一代都緊張架，墨同黑好多時都唔理子女功課，另外好多大陸嚟嘅家長睇錢緊要過子女，Preschool都唔俾仔女去，因為要錢，after-school冇架，因為又係要錢。

我仔學校嘅PTA好弱，因為只有一班唔識中文嘅stay home moms做，佢地口講想多D家長參與，但次次開會都係一至五朝早9點，仲話係private meeting，完全都唔accommodate working parents，有心都唔參與唔到，我已經offer幫手做翻譯，但根本就唔會有人care，我想幫都幫唔到。我仔學校90％以上係亞洲人，應該有75％係華人。但我覺得最緊要嘅係老師校長好，教到我仔仔，PTA ...

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本帖最後由 big007 於 12-1-9 02:54 編輯

bee_happy, rose-mag,

好多謝你哋嘅意見呀！

我啲朋友話我over worry, 又話我 over protective，佢哋話小朋友大大吓就識保護自己啦喎。

But as a mom, 又點會唔擔心自己嘅子女呢？當然會想盡能力，比到好嘅子女啦！

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rose-mag,

most of my friends who send their kids to the public schools (good ones) are stay-at-home moms, and they volunteer at school a lot (almost every day for some of them). that's the best way to make sure their kids got better attention from the teachers. for working moms, in fact, that's a disadvantage due to the limitation of volunteer hours.
also, they spend a lot of time teaching more advanced materials to the kids after school to make sure they're competitive enough to their peers. for the working moms, they can only compensate that by sending their kids to the after-school tutoring center or one-on-one tutoring.

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本帖最後由 rose-mag 於 12-1-8 22:10 編輯

bee_happy 發表於 12-1-8 17:39
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most of my friends who send their kids to the public schools (good ones) are stay-at-home ...

bee_happy,
Don't get me wrong, I have no offense on stay-at-home moms. I actually admire them who can spend time with their kids when they are still young and help out the schools when the kids are in school age. The case of my son's school is complicated because most of the parents in this school are either working (many of them are low-income workers) or stay-at-home moms but not speaking English. Our school PTA is formed with a group of white or ABC moms who do not speak Chinese. It's hard for the non-PTA parents to participate when the PTA meetings are all scheduled in weekday morning and have no translation provided. When my husband queried about the timing because we know some other schools have PTA meetings in both mornings and after-work hours to include all parents, the PTA board members defended that the meetings are all private, only for PTA board members. One of the board members asked my husband to enter the board so that he is qualified to attend the PTA board meetings.

I and my husband work full time but we understand how important for us to participate in school activities. I will at least volunteer one morning every month in the classroom to help out. In fact, a few of parents do the same things. Plus, there are a few of alumni parents or grandparents help out in the school every week. We have plenty much sufficient support in the classrooms. Also, we participate in almost every school event, I help out in translation of newsletters plus we gave a pretty generous donation (to us it is) to the school. We do not expect that the PTA is such a closed "club" that is only tailor-made for just 5 women. They even have no intention to narrow the gap of communications between non-English-speaking parents and English-speaking parents although the PTA president always talks about that. She actually has not done anything to pursue that goal.

I don't believe in sending our kids to tutors and I can be freed from responsibilities. Yes, we send our son to after school, it is actually his previous pre-school. We don't give him a lot of pressure on learning advanced knowledge because it is not the way for him to learn. Every night, I or my husband take turn to work with him on the homework but we also spend a lot of time to play and talk. Well, I do wish that my husband is richer or can earn a single salary that can support the family and I can stay at home but it is just a dream that won't come true.

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原來 public school有咁多 volunteer 嘅 chances？唔知我哋呢度係咪咁呢？我鍾意呀！

仲有一個原因 consider 比仔仔讀 private school，係因為仔仔有 food allergy，我見有啲 private school 可以陪子女食 lunch，咁我想陪仔仔食 lunch嘛。我明白當仔仔大啲嘅時候，可能唔想我陪食lunch，我都唔想佢比同學笑啦。但喺初初嘅時候，我會想陪吓，又想睇吓學校嘅食嘢情況係點！

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原來 public school有咁多 volunteer 嘅 chances？唔知我哋呢度係咪咁呢？我鍾意呀！

仲有一個原因 consid ...

公校家長都可以隨時去學校架，當然老師唔想家長打擾上堂，幫手另計，我去做義工時係會將學生分組，再由義工帶小組，可能係做下手工，又可能係玩下認字咭數字咭，旨在俾多D一對一時間俾小朋友。學校食午飯時段好歡迎家長去幫手，我記得你小朋友有food allergies，公校又好私校又好，要講清楚俾老師同校長聽（可以就同cafeteria supervisor講埋），要做到完全安全係冇可能，但起碼可以等有關負責老師留心。我仔學校都有對奶類同堅果類食物敏感小朋友，通常做法係將呢批小朋友安排坐第二張枱，老師可以留意多D佢地，又可以避免小朋友自己交換食物而出事。

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