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複式洋房

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發表於 07-12-8 00:11 |只看該作者
好辛苦,想借呢個地方呻一呻,想大家俾D意見我。

係呢間公司大大話話做左17年,真係由做女做到做人老婆再以家做埋阿媽。係呢17年裡面,可以話只有頭1年係做得開心,打後咁多年無開心過。 唔係無試過出去見工,但無份見得成。拖下一年拖下又一年,拖到今時今日。唔係話羅埋前四後六,就話羅埋Bonus,唔係就話有公司醫生fully cover for kid,總之就諸多藉口。年年同人呻,呻到唔好意思,因為好似一味得個講字敢,其實係好多野要考慮,唔可以咁撇脫,話走就走.....我始終做唔到:cry:

由admin轉做mktg,足足6,7 年一毫子都無加過人工。無他既係因為個老細覺得你人工高,又少野做,唔justify咪frozen你囉。又睇死你走唔出佢既手指。望穿秋水,等到今時今日,終於加到1K俾你,重好似講到既咁皇因好盪。

大家幫我諗下,做左17年,有admin有mktg既工作經驗,BBA holder,係以家個career market,值幾多呢?20K below or over???

但令我最唔開心,最唔順氣既係,一個遲我入籍,無degree既人居然可以1年又1年係咁加人工升職,以家重把爬埋我頭,做左senior,我就只有加workload。你話我條氣點順,點解咁對我?係唔係唔出聲就好蝦D

我以家一係諗著同老細講,轉我Title, at least same as my colleague....唔肯既就等埋羅完bonus後搵工。

以家我無人可以講,唔該大家俾D意見我,萬分感激,唔該


男爵府

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發表於 07-12-8 02:40 |只看該作者
life is not as simple as we thought. my case was similar as yours. due the recession - company need to keep costs, but boss think you are HARDWORKING and don't cause any trouble - thus want to keep you.
end up - your title being transfer from one position to the other, but doing the same old job + whoever got let go, you will have to share the work. But mind you - no salary raised - as company is facing the recession.

then like you - did tried to find job outsides, but with the down falls of the economy, the pay is no good as what I am having now. so have to stay.. year after years.. still with the same company.
my highest recorded is no raised for 5 years.
finally, my boss got let go, and he did do a good job and put me on the redundancy list - hoping I could get a good package to go... but i wait for 1 yr still no sign...

end up I take it so serious to look for a job outside, and got a job with 1/3 pay cut... and leave that company.

with my current company. - the first year, they said, we recruit you with the current market - so sorry, no raised for the first year.
then 2nd year, even the market is picking up, company is not doing that good. so freeze salary increment.
year 3 finally company breakeven, so will do the salary adjustment in next year.
year 4. i got my 1% salary increase while I knew the other got 5%....
now year 5. I am now thinking should I go or stay... today, they just let 5 people go... and I could foresee the company will have the same excuse - business no good - no salary revised in 2008..

sorry for the long message - but I think - for my age i could not go anywhere, and I need the $$ for the daily household spending.. so i will not like 5 years ago, quit and go. but just stay to earn that $$$$$$


大宅

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發表於 07-12-8 10:58 |只看該作者
以我經驗, 呢d野講都無用, 如果佢係覺得你值/唔敢唔加比你的話, 佢一早比左title/加人工比你; 因為佢睇中你一路都唔敢走的weakness所以佢係唔會比多你;其他的, 可能佢覺得同你差唔多useful, 但佢驚佢會走, 所以會主動比多d野留個同事;
你都做左o甘多年; 其實你係未應該出去見下工先, 睇下個market係點; 其實你如果唔係轉行, 一定會找到工, 你o甘多考慮, 不如接受現實, 只係坐響度等人地去改變係唔會有用; 要改變現實就要坐言起行
呢個世界, 在香港(由其是) 年資絕對只係負資產, 君不見大部份人升職加人工都係因為跳來跳去咩? 原地等人升, 等成世都無得升
至於有無料, 其實真係無所謂, 因為當你去左某間公司你發覺你有機會比人知你無料; 你就可以轉工又升一升, 升到上神檯就點人做, 無料都無所謂!
hahahhahaha!


男爵府

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發表於 07-12-11 11:43 |只看該作者
我又係為左轉唔轉工諗到頭都大埋呀!
做左就快5年shipping, 本來今年年中有個同事走, 老細又怕我會走 (因都算係老臣子), 所以話加我1k, 點知半個月後我同佢講我有左, 最後, 佢只加左我500, 老實講, 我知佢諗住我就生第2個所以一定唔會唔做, 一來會要個產假, 二來佢覺得我有經濟負擔. 不過自從佢話加我 1k 最後只加得 500, 我條氣真係唔係好順, 同埋都好有決心咁諗住放完產假之後返來辭職, 湊幾個月 bb 就再搵野做!
不過又打算出年買樓搬出去住, 所以又唔知轉唔轉工好???


大宅

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發表於 07-12-11 15:05 |只看該作者
Heyheyhaha / doggie,

大家情況唔多唔小有 d similar. 呢份工食之無味, 棄之可惜. 做得比人多, 受柄最多,

近幾年阿頭請左個愛將. 鍚到出晒面. 個同事做錯唔使柄, 只系柄我, 話我無睇住佢, 大老, 佢唔系 under 我, 點解要我睇住佢 ? 原因系因為我做符耐, 最有經驗 wor. ?-( 我點敢教佢愛將做野, 佢成日話佢做得好好, 要為佢同老細 flight 人工, benefit.....

總之, 邊個同事做錯, 我阿頭一定捉住我柄.

我阿頭好似 "麥兜" order 早餐一樣, 你話 A, 佢要 B, 你再估佢會應該系 C la 掛, 佢要番 A 原地踏步, 你之前做的全部系費. 佢成日要你地估佢開邊瓣. 我覺得阿頭系專登, 唔比你地估到佢想要物, if not, 物都比你地睇通佢點做阿頭.

所以都幾難捱, 但系捱下捱下一年一年甘過. 同事個個話我 EQ 高, 唔系個個頂得順我阿頭. 因為好多舊同事都走晒. 哎 ! 無話頂唔頂得順, 個個老細, 阿頭都系 same same 啦.

轉工, just think about la. 你估後生有 bargain power 咩, 你有家庭有兒女, 甘多開支. 轉左唔得再轉話甘易咩. 有好多野 worry ga.

睇 $$ 份上 keep on 捱啦唯有. 打份工, 呻完再繼續啦老友.


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發表於 07-12-11 15:35 |只看該作者
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大宅

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發表於 07-12-11 16:19 |只看該作者
唉, 其實係大家諗住轉工的時候, 大家真係要諗清楚自己最想要嘅係咩。我係一個經常轉工嘅人, 做咗十幾年野, 最長份工都唔過3年。每次我都俾唔同嘅藉口自己去轉工。(所以我見工都見到慣哂)

大家如果真係想轉工, 一定要了解個market。好似樓主咁, 如果再出去搵admin嘅工, 雖然經驗豐富, 但係無咩公司會出20k 請general admin, 除非係d 好特別的工種(or industry e.g. investment bank)。同埋真係有好多公司嘅medical benefit已經唔係fully cover or cover dependants (e.g.國泰).

假設你搵marketing 嘅工, 好多時都要好困身, 我之前公司就講明一定要係外國大學畢業, 中英文書寫要非常好得至ok。如果, 請咗個master + 5年經驗都唔駛20k, 公司亦無其他嘅benefit, 仲要個同事真係好掂。我都"登"佢可惜。:cry:

我另外一個做開marketing 的朋友, 佢都係不斷進修, 仲因為咁quit 埋份工, 但係佢依家都只係喺個部門做d general 嘅工作, 讀完BBA + MA 都係唔過20K。

不過, 當然有D 喺marketing 都做到好高薪厚職, 但係就真係好困身, 好難有family day, 返到屋企個小朋友都瞓咗。

講真, 有無得升職加薪, 有時都要睇吓自己有無"火", 老闆梗係想升個肯博的同事, 多過一個平穩的同事啦。

可能樓主都只係比上不足, 比下有餘。可能我轉得太多工, 依家我會覺得家庭係第一位, 咁$or title, 我都唔會太計較, 咁當然都要同workload 成正比。d 老闆見我咁, 都知我唔會同佢博, 我都寧願佢有野, 搵其他同事做。

如果, 樓主真係有興趣轉工, 其實不妨試吓, 見完其他工, 可能會覺得自己份工唔差; 又如果好好彩的話, 真係可以搵到一份好工呢。


複式洋房

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發表於 07-12-11 17:23 |只看該作者
原文章由 NokNam 於 07-12-11 16:19 發表
唉, 其實係大家諗住轉工的時候, 大家真係要諗清楚自己最想要嘅係咩。我係一個經常轉工嘅人, 做咗十幾年野, 最長份工都唔過3年。每次我都俾唔同嘅藉口自己去轉工。(所以我見工都見到慣哂)

大家如果真係想轉工, 一定 ...



NokNam,

我好agree你講. 有了家庭+小朋友. $及職位己是其次.


男爵府

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發表於 07-12-13 05:01 |只看該作者
原文章由 Orangeyan 於 07-12-11 17:23 發表

NokNam,

我好agree你講. 有了家庭+小朋友. $及職位己是其次.


totally agreed with you. with our age - not young any more, how many more 10 yrs to try out.. so I am ok with my current paid, with my working time and working load..
as I could leave work on time, O/T only during the month end.. then why fight for more workload, more responsibility, higher title... but may be only $1-2K more...

i am a calculated person as I works in the accounting dept.

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