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tkmama


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各位美國媽媽:

你們好! 請問六歲小孩報 Grade 1 時需要申報 social security number 嗎? 因老公會先行往美國報學校, 全家人的 Green Card 已收到, 但 social security number 未有, 報讀學校可以嗎?

謝謝!
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wing105


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發表於 08-5-25 03:22 |只看該作者
妳可以問學校可否後補ss number.

我囝入學時都未收ss 咭, 佢學校比我地後補 資料.
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ckh689


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發表於 08-5-25 11:04 |只看該作者
我都想問吓，因為我地計劃今年全家人7月到美國land一land，然後到明年7月先至正式同阿女去美國住同讀書，到時大女應該會讀香港既中一，細女讀香港三年級，請問：
1. 我今年7月去到美國時係唔係應該要搵定學校？
2. 公立學校要幾耐前接受報名？
3. 會唔會接受網上報名，或在美國家人可唔可以代報？

謝謝！

ckh689

原文章由 wing105 於 08-5-25 03:22 發表
妳可以問學校可否後補ss number.

我囝入學時都未收ss 咭, 佢學校比我地後補 資料.

[ 本文章最後由 ckh689 於 08-5-25 11:09 編輯 ]
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wing105


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1. 我今年7月去到美國時係唔係應該要搵定學校？
我唔知其他洲同唔我地... 我地是跟住址入學, 不用先找學校.
美國個granding 比香港低一級, 我囝7 years 在香港是二年級, 佢依家讀緊 1st grade.

2. 公立學校要幾耐前接受報名？
我囝報名後四日可以返學啦, 要等四日是因為有長週未三日假期.

3. 會唔會接受網上報名，或在美國家人可唔可以代報？
你可以要你在美國家人問下你住區會是哪間學校 & 學校的詳細資料. 因為每個洲都唔同

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ckh689


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發表於 08-5-26 16:12 |只看該作者
wing105,

唔該晒，請問你是那一個州呢？同埋我仲想問吓你個仔報名時駛唔駛考入學試架？你在香港時有冇特別要操fit d佢d英文呀？

ckh689
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tkmama


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發表於 08-5-28 18:24 |只看該作者
Hi wing 105,

多謝你的回應. 這陣子忙於在家中執拾包裝物品, 交予移民搬運公司托運, 遲了回應, 不好意思.

Hi ckh689,

你好! 有關你的問題, 由於我也是新移民, 將會住在加州, 全靠其他美國媽媽幫忙及在網上找資料, 我不肯定答案是否真確, 希望幫到你啦!

1. 在加州, 如果入讀公立 (政府) 學校, 不須考試, 因入學以住址為基準. 但在其它州, 我不太清楚.

2. 在加州, 如孩子在家中非以英語為主要語言, 那麼, 孩子入學前須考 CELDT " California English Language Development Test", 成績會分為三級, 按不同程度接受額外時間的英文班 - ESL program (English as second language).

Nice to meet you.

[ 本文章最後由 tkmama 於 08-5-29 12:25 編輯 ]
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wing105


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發表於 08-5-29 05:09 |只看該作者
we are living in Georgia.
no test at all....

my son has joined the program "ESL" at school, this program is for those kids from other country and useing english as second language.

原文章由 ckh689 於 08-5-26 16:12 發表
wing105,

唔該晒，請問你是那一個州呢？同埋我仲想問吓你個仔報名時駛唔駛考入學試架？你在香港時有冇特別要操fit d佢d英文呀？

ckh689

[ 本文章最後由 wing105 於 08-5-29 05:10 編輯 ]
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Nillie_Mami


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wing105,
try to help your child to get rid of ESL, otherwise, your child will be label for the rest of the school year as a "ESL" child.
that is my recommendation.
原文章由 wing105 於 08-5-28 04:09 PM 發表
we are living in Georgia.
no test at all....

my son has joined the program "ESL" at school, this program is for those kids from other country and useing english as second language.
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ckh689


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發表於 08-5-30 11:36 |只看該作者
Thank you, tkmama & Wing105.


Nillie_Mami,

點樣可以唔讀ESL班呢？那些班是自願參加還是規定每位外語小朋友都要參加的呢？如果被label 為 ESL Child 會有甚麼問題？

ckh689

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-5-29 06:03 發表
wing105,
try to help your child to get rid of ESL, otherwise, your child will be label for the rest of the school year as a "ESL" child.
that is my recommendation.
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Nillie_Mami


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發表於 08-5-31 02:03 |只看該作者
ckh689,
要避免label 為ESL 因為佢以後如果課程跟唔上, 或有乜嘢learning deficit, 老師都懶做evaluation, 只會賴個小朋友英文唔好.咁個小朋友咪被老師"室"喺角落抖.. 個小朋友會得唔到學習上嘅幫助.
短期ESL.. 香港新移民係冇可避免, daddy mommy喺屋企要用美語同小朋友溝通, 唔好喺屋企睇咁多中文電視, 帶小朋友去書局, weekend, 好多大型書局/ library 有offer 免費 story time, 可以sign up. 同時俾仔女同其他小朋友傾吓計就更好.
學好一種語言要由生活入手, 非紙上談兵.. 要家(family)教(school)合一呢..

原文章由 ckh689 於 08-5-29 10:36 PM 發表
Thank you, tkmama & Wing105.


Nillie_Mami,

點樣可以唔讀ESL班呢？那些班是自願參加還是規定每位外語小朋友都要參加的呢？如果被label 為 ESL Child 會有甚麼問題？

ckh689

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babygigi


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發表於 08-5-31 13:57 |只看該作者
CA是每個SEMESTER都有TEST﹐PASS了便升ESL CLASS(BEGINNING AB/INTERMEDIATE AB/ADVANCE AB)﹐HK來的已有英文底通常兩年(4 SEMESTERS)就讀到正常班。



原文章由 ckh689 於 08-5-30 11:36 發表
Thank you, tkmama & Wing105.


Nillie_Mami,

點樣可以唔讀ESL班呢？那些班是自願參加還是規定每位外語小朋友都要參加的呢？如果被label 為 ESL Child 會有甚麼問題？

ckh689

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[ 本文章最後由 babygigi 於 08-5-31 14:01 編輯 ]

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wing105


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Dear Nillie,

多謝妳提醒我, 不過我sign hime for next year ESL class 因為佢有speaking & writing 未達stand 呀


原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-5-29 06:03 發表
wing105,
try to help your child to get rid of ESL, otherwise, your child will be label for the rest of the school year as a "ESL" child.
that is my recommendation.
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ckh689


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Nillie_Mami,

多謝妳提醒，不過如果好似wing105個case咁，我諗我d小朋友都可能要報ESL班，因為佢地始終唔係美國出世，唯有自己跟緊D啦！

ckh689

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-5-31 02:03 發表
ckh689,
要避免label 為ESL 因為佢以後如果課程跟唔上, 或有乜嘢learning deficit, 老師都懶做evaluation, 只會賴個小朋友英文唔好.咁個小朋友咪被老師"室"喺角落抖.. 個小朋友會得唔到學習上嘅幫助.
短期ESL.. 香港 ...
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ckh689


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duplicated

[ 本文章最後由 ckh689 於 08-6-3 09:20 編輯 ]
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wing105


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ckh689,
我覺得妳唔洗太緊張, 小朋友可以好快掌握到新語言.
我囝其實可以唔洗ESL, 不過佢個老師要佢直升3rd grand, 搞到佢又未stand 呀.

原文章由 ckh689 於 08-6-2 16:28 發表
Nillie_Mami,

多謝妳提醒，不過如果好似wing105個case咁，我諗我d小朋友都可能要報ESL班，因為佢地始終唔係美國出世，唯有自己跟緊D啦！

ckh689
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ckh689


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wing105,

I hope so!!

ckh689

原文章由 wing105 於 08-6-3 08:00 發表

我覺得妳唔洗太緊張, 小朋友可以好快掌握到新語言.
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ALISONLI


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ckh689, wing 105
my 2nd son was in esl class although he's born in the us. we sent him to chinese day care that's why. but now we put him in catholic school and his english is good la . it's just that the esl kids have to take a tough exam every year if they want to go back to regular class (needs to get over 90%). so hopefully CA is different.







原文章由 ckh689 於 08-6-2 16:28 發表
Nillie_Mami,

多謝妳提醒，不過如果好似wing105個case咁，我諗我d小朋友都可能要報ESL班，因為佢地始終唔係美國出世，唯有自己跟緊D啦！

ckh689
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Nillie_Mami


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發表於 08-6-7 19:28 |只看該作者

New York Guide line to apply public school

this is the wonderful website which contains all we need to know (good for new immigrants with kids at school age.
1. How to find a school
http://www.insideschools.org/st/ST_start.php

2. How to register?
http://www.insideschools.org/st/ST_register.php

3. once you enrolled to a school, how about the afterschool, uniforms and transportation,etc.?
http://www.insideschools.org/st/ST_policy.php

4.how to transfer?
http://www.insideschools.org/st/ST_transfer.php
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Nillie_Mami


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發表於 08-6-7 19:31 |只看該作者

ESL and bilingual education

English as a Second Language and bilingual education

What is English as a Second Language (ESL)? ESL is a program in which students – for one to three periods a day - learn to speak, read and write English from a trained teacher, who may or may not speak the child’s native language. Students are taught completely in English. How many ESL periods a student receives a day depends on the student’s grade level and proficiency in English. The student attends regular courses in English the rest of the day. Alternatively, parents may choose to enroll their children in bilingual instruction or Dual language instruction.
What is bilingual education? Bilingual education classes provide students with ESL instruction as well as instruction in their native language. This way, students can learn academic subjects in their native language while they are learning English. This approach is called the transitional model because as students become more proficient in English, native language instruction decreases.

What is dual language instruction? In some schools students can participate in dual language programs, which put native English speakers and speakers of another language together in one classroom with the goal that each group learns the other language. In the dual language program, students are taught in English one day and in another language (usually Spanish, Chinese or Haitian) the next. In some programs, half the day is taught in English and the other language for the other half. Ideally, in a dual language program, half the students will be native English students and half will be native or at least fluent speakers of the other language. Instruction continues in both languages even as students increase proficiency.

雙語或英語為第二語言(ESL)教育

英語為第二語言(ESL)是什麼﹖ESL是一種課程，學生一天有一至三節課由受過專門訓練的老師教授英語的講、讀、寫。那

位老師不一定曉得孩子的母語，全用英語教授，學生上多少節課視乎學生的年級及英語流利的程度。學生在其他時間上普通

英語課程。

雙語教育是什麼﹖雙語教育課堂提供給ESL課程學生，教學用母語。因此，學生用母語學習各學科，亦學習英語。
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Nillie_Mami


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Who is eligible for ESL/bilingual education?

    When your child enters school you and your spouse must complete a Home Language Identification Survey (HLIS). If you respond that a language other than English is used in your home, then your child must take a Language Assessment Battery-Revised (LAB-R) test in English. If your child scores below a minimum cut-off on the LAB-R, he or she is eligible for either bilingual education or ESL, but must at a minimum take ESL.
  • If your child is identified as needing bilingual education or ESL based on his/her LAB-R score, he or she must be placed in ESL or bilingual education within 10 days of enrollment in the school.
Your right to choose: You have the right to choose whether to enter a bilingual education class or ESL class. Every school must offer an ESL program, but not every school is required to have a bilingual education class. If you would like your child to attend a bilingual education class and your child’s school does not offer one in your child’s native language, you have the right to transfer your child to another school in the district that does offer a bilingual education class in your child’s native language. (NYS Commissioner’s Regulation Title 8, § 154.5(f)(3)). If there is no school in your district that offers a bilingual education class in your child’s native language, you must enroll your child in ESL. If there is an appropriate bilingual education class in another district, you may apply for a transfer to that district but are not guaranteed one.
Regardless of what program you choose for your child, you must express your choice in writing to the school. See the section below on “Placement in Bilingual Education or ESL” for more information on the process for choosing a program.
What schools have bilingual education programs? Elementary and middle schools that have 15 or more ELL students with the same native language in the same grade or in two consecutive grades are required to have a bilingual education program in that language. High schools that have 20 or more ELL students with the same native language in one grade are required to create a bilingual program in that language.

誰可接受雙語或ESL教育

1. 當你的孩子入學時，你們夫婦一定要填寫家庭語言調查表(HLIS)。

2. 如你回答家中有人說英語以外的語言，你的孩子一定要接受英文版的新編版語言評核(LAB-R)測驗。

3. 如你孩子的新編版語言評核測驗分數低於某定點(41個百分點)，他有權接受雙語或ESL教育，但一定至少要接受

ESL教育。

4. 如你的孩子在新編版語言評核的成績被指認為需要雙語或ESL教育，他一定要在10天內在校內就讀雙語或ESL

教育。

你有權選擇﹕你及你孩子有權選擇就讀雙語教育或ESL課堂。每間學校一定要提供ESL課程，但不一定要提供雙語教育課

堂。如你想孩子就讀雙語教育而他的學校沒有提供孩子母語的雙語教育，你有權為孩子轉學(紐約州教育廳長條例第八條

款，第154.5(f)(3)章)。但如你的學區並無學校提供孩子母語的雙語教育，孩子就應入讀ESL。如其他學區有合適的雙語教

育課堂，你可以申請轉到另一學區，但不擔保成功。

不論你為孩子選讀什麼課程，你都要書面聲明你的意願，參看下面的「入讀雙語教育及ESL」部份，了解選擇課程的步驟。

那些學校提供雙語教育﹖小學及初中如有15位或以上的英語學習生，又用同一母語，又在同一個年級的或兩個相連年級，

就需要設立該母語的雙語教育﹔高中如有20位或以上的ESL學生，又用同一母語，又在同一年級，就需要設立該母語的雙

語教育。
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