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mrsphcheung

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發表於 04-9-10 07:44 |只看該作者

looking for a Christian Church in Tai Koo Shing

Dear all,
We are a Catholic family and we go to church every Sunday. We strongly feel that there is no support in the Catholic community. The Father just tells you that you have to be faithful to Jesus. However, most of the people in our parish never greet one another even though we live in the same mansion. We strongly feel that we are alieans. Our family is in great crisis right now and we want to join a Christian Church in Tai Koo Shing area. We just want to get more spiritual support in our religion. Please tell me where I can join. Thanks.

我們怕孩子的人生路途滿佈荊棘，與其為孩子在路上舖一層地毯，不如在孩子的腳上穿上一雙鞋。

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rincojack

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發表於 04-9-10 14:27 |只看該作者

Re: looking for a Christian Church in Tai Koo Shing

Hi : I am a father of sons that I strongly recommend you to join the church at Sung Chun Church at Shaukiwan Street 'east' a little bit far from Tai Koo Shing. I just believe Jesus since April, 2004. I felt very warm when I was joining the gathering at church and family group. I am living at Lei King Wan. I am sure the God has made the arrangement/planing that it is a right time for you to know other Catholic community. We have a small group that we would gather in two weeks time. And we always each other in a very short period of time. See You !

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jk67jk

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發表於 04-9-10 16:11 |只看該作者

Re: looking for a Christian Church in Tai Koo Shing

hi, mrsphcheung,

I would rather want to know that why you found no support from the Catholic community. I'm not sure what kind of spiritual support you want? Can you share your story with me? May I know some specific cases? I feel really sorry to hear what you have said. Just if I can give a hand.

There is a "Catholic Mame's Club" in the Mother's Club Forum, welcome you to talk over there, too, if you want to. -->天主教教友mame 請進 ~ ~

I missed this topic just because I see you looking for Christian Church as indicated in the subject heading.:-(

Even if you have made up your mind, would you tell me which church you are in, so that I can try to find out what is happening there.

Sorry, if I am a little bit 長氣, I myself is not going to my nearest church. Just like Christian friends, they will go to church far away from their homes, just because that specific group suits them. So, if the church in Taikooshing is not good, have you try the other ones as well.

I think I have to stop here right now, if not, I might be talking a bit off, like preaching.

jk67jk

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mrsphcheung

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發表於 04-9-10 21:54 |只看該作者

Re: looking for a Christian Church in Tai Koo Shing

Dear jk67jk,
I used to go to Holy Cross Church, where I was baptised. In 1999, I moved to Mei Foo and I attended the mass in Mei Foo Mass centre. Most of the Catholics there were very old and it was hard for me to know anybody. I moved back to Tai Koo Shing in 2002. I go to Tai Koo Shing Mass Centre (Delia School of Canada). As the centre is currently under renovation, we therefore go to Holy Cross Church. The feeling of visitor always overwhelms us.
The reason why we feel that we are just visitors to the church is because my family was in great difficulty in December 2003 and we sought help from the church. Disappointedly, nobody turned up to help us. My husband (born Catholic) always said that his Christian friends were strongly tied as they had religious gatherings (in small groups) regularly. We don't want to have prayer ourselves and read our own bible. We want to share with the others and we need spiritual & psychological support. Maybe, we are weak so that we want to look for a Christian community.... I can say that this is the hardest moment in my life.....

我們怕孩子的人生路途滿佈荊棘，與其為孩子在路上舖一層地毯，不如在孩子的腳上穿上一雙鞋。

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jk67jk

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發表於 04-9-11 00:18 |只看該作者

Re: looking for a Christian Church in Tai Koo Shing

Dear mrsphcheung,

Ooh I see.... :-|

Well, this is the problem of most churches.

But, in 教區, I know there are group gatherings that are very good & supportive. Relationship between members are very close. Somehow, only maybe the location is not close to you.

It was well known that 聖神內更新團體 is a group that has great spiritual sharing among members. I regret that I haven't joined them before and cannot share with you whether their ways might help you or not. Last time there was a typhoon and my son also got ill, they have a gathering for introducing the group and sharing practical sharing experience to Catholic & non-Catholic at Rosary Church.

Here is their website --> 聖神內更新團體

I see they have a group 活水之泉祈禱會on 逢星期三7.15pm - 9.00pm 香港北角建華街30號聖猶達堂 which was the nearest to you. I also see there is a 聖家(夫婦幼兒)事工 but no idea what is this?

There is also a group named 主業會, but their groups are divided by sex that means your husband & you will have seperate gatherings. So, seems not suitable.

And there is 基基團聯會, they help churches to set up 基基團 (like Christian's 團契/查經班). Some churches have been developed very mature but some is still developing. So, you may reach 基基團聯會 teling them you are desperately looking for spiritual support, tell them your needs and ask them to refer you to a mature group. -->公教教研中心

These groups outside the 堂區 should always be well enough to support your spiritual life because most members join by 自願. Church's groups (善會) mostly are force to join by priests & sisters, they are more likely working-groups than spiritual groups. So, the atmosphere is quite not the same. :-(

I really hope that you could find your way out in Catholic churches. However, if you would like to go the Christian way..... doesn't matter.... you are welcome back anytime.... and I always trust that we are only One before the Lord.

And I will pray for you that you can find one that is 純正的教會, as you might notice that Christian churches 支派很多...福音派,基要派, 靈恩派... (not too appropriate to give any comments here!:mrgreen: )

Just to share with you one more thing:

If your husband is a born Catholic, he must know that Catholics in the past don't have sharings. We are only learning to have Bible sharings in 10 - 20 years. Only in 1997, Bishop Wu emphasizs again the urgency to have more small group gathering for the goods of spiritual life, a little bit more groups were then established. A lot of the groups are still fresh & developing. The sadness is there are still quite a lot of people don't aware of the importance of Bible sharing among people, not just going to Sunday mass can help our spiritual life. Some get awareness like you do, can't find support among the nearest community.

We are borned to depends on priests (a bad habit not yet changed). However, do you know that we only have about 300 priests to serve about 93 churches with 239400 Catholics. We have mass every morning, the priests also need to work in Catholic Schools & hospitals, visiting the prisoners and .... etc. Their work load is so big and we 平信徒 are not well-equipped ourselves to give a helping hand. And a lot of them aged above 45/50, everytime I think of this, I was much worried and feel my heart broken. (Some of them are with old-fashioned mind, we must be understanding. I heard that some priest are not too helpful in some ways.)

I see the difficulties in church, so I go to study courses held by 教培 and am also planning to study may be in 教理中心 or 聖經學院. I am planning myself to GIVE more than TAKE, to build up a strong and mature 教會.

There are also 靈修課程及祈禱會 held in different places. I will be attending a 聖言誦讀 at Rosary Church for the next 2 - 3 months. It is not just reading scriptures, it is spiritual, a way of communication to God. Have you ever attend this kind of course before? I met 志同道合的朋友in one of those courses in early 2004 and start our own Bible sharing group.

Moreover, I am training my 善會 to depend more on ourselves. In the past, when the priest is not with us, there is no Bible sharing! Now, I am the host of Bible sharing in the 善會, in due course, I will try my best to pass to my members.

One more thing, just on my mind, have you ever seek help from 天主教信仰熱線/教友培育辨事處, you can reach the staff for their assistance, too. I might believe that a 平信徒組織 can help you more than a church.

I have read some of your other postings, maybe your family needs assistance that I cannot understand. Lastly, I hope you all the best in your spiritual life!

Always remember you in my prayer, and welcome anytime you would like to chat with me. (Just provided that my computer is not broken down

「多元社區，和諧並存；你我出手，聾健共融」

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mrsphcheung

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發表於 04-9-13 16:57 |只看該作者

Re: looking for a Christian Church in Tai Koo Shing

Dear jk67jk,
More than happy to read your encouraging message to me. Thank you for your help. My only son was diagnosed to have an unrecoverable developmental illness by a renowned private child psychiatrist in December 2003. It was my family's doomsday. My husband and I could not go to work for many weeks. We just cried and prayed. At this difficult moment of time, all I could get from the church or the social worker there were disappointing. They had the idea that middle class people had their way to survive well. We are weak, especially in times of uncertainties and fears. We just want to get some spiritual and psychological support from our community. All my friends are Christian. They have strong human tie among their communities. How come we can't?

我們怕孩子的人生路途滿佈荊棘，與其為孩子在路上舖一層地毯，不如在孩子的腳上穿上一雙鞋。

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jk67jk

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發表於 04-9-14 16:36 |只看該作者

Re: looking for a Christian Church in Tai Koo Shing

Dear mrsphcheung,

I feel so sad that if it was really true that they response so odd, saying you can solve the problem since you are a middle-class. I could only wish that it was just a communication problem, not really what they meant!

我不知道如此說是否合適,不論天主教或基督教, 都有一些是只往崇拜, 不參加任何形式聚會的人。而在天主教方面, 願意花時間在堂區服務/聚會的, 都依然是一些慢熱而且被動的人, 不似基督教朋友的熱情。這些你先生自然更了解吧！你們在Holy Cross遇上了的是那一類呢？

我這兒約120- 150人一台彌撒的小堂, 進台詠唱完才坐滿人; 禮成詠未唱完已經不見1/2, 禮成詠一完, 只剩下要幫忙事後工作的10-20人左右; 大家如何建立關係呢？不認識的人繼續不認識, 認識的朋友一個月可能只碰上一兩次, 交談不過5句 ... 不知大家趕著去那兒呢？！要建立如同基督教朋友的human tie, 首先大家要肯花時間。耶穌說要捨棄一切去跟隨他, 這個一切都包含”時間”, 但有沒有人明白呢 ..... 人家的聚會一星期一次, 我們的聚會一個月一次。不過, 話說回來, 這些問題我都是近年才察覺其重要性, 覺得教會與教友都要身體力行去改善現狀。教會沒有什麼給我...... 但我又為教會作了什麼呢？這是每位教徒要反省的問題。我們這一代的教友, 是由上一代培育下來的; 那, 我們下一代的教友, 是由我們培育出來的, 我們作為父母、榜樣, 做了甚麼呢？我還見大部份家長, 會著重子女的學校功課、課外活動, 多於教會的聚會及活動。大家都不投入教會, 教會內如何有團結有溫暖呢？這是你、我及所有的天主教教徒要反省的！

I was told by a 網友 that in Holy Cross Church,聖母軍has good spiritual sharing. However, internet news is just internet news, you can only trust 50%.

I know your sorrow & difficulties; I hope you can overcome this with God. You are not alone even if you can’t find a Catholic friend to support you in your community. Trust me that there are still warm Catholics somewhere!

So, it's already half a year after the breaking of development problem of your son, how's he now? I see some of your message said that he has mild attention problem, school teacher said that he is fine, only specialist said he has problem. So, is it only a small problem? If yes, try to release yourself.

God be with you!

「多元社區，和諧並存；你我出手，聾健共融」

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