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大宅

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發表於 05-4-23 09:13 |只看該作者

有沒有媽媽已開始覺得自己的工人很好就對她很好,現在很後悔的?

我自己曾经有的经验
你们呢??


民房

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發表於 05-4-23 09:57 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾经觉得自己的工人非常好,但是现在? />
me, too
I'm very very angry myself that i treated her very good before, now she call police and labour.


大宅

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發表於 05-4-23 10:30 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾

我都係咁, 兩年幾前個印傭剛剛來到, 當時我對B只有2個月大, 個工人好識揍BB,又好錫對B, 做家務又好有效率, 個人好醒目, 相對地亦太醒目, 第一個月來港, 見我用過一次001打IDD, 就已經識用, 當我地收到電話單時, 真的不敢相信, $2xxx電話費, 最長的一次是連續傾了50分鐘. 但念在佢工作表現好, 亦可能離鄉別井難免寂寞, 所以要佢每月攤還電話費便算. 每次佢做錯什麼, 我地都係講句希望唔會有下次便算.

BB一路大, 佢都好有心機教BB野, 同BB唱歌, 認ABC等, 我地都對佢好好, 當佢係朋友, 去邊到玩都會同佢去, 數百元一位的晚餐都會預佢一份. 其實當時我地一直還請了個親戚做保母, 親戚有時會對我地講工人的不是, 我地還以為親戚妒忌我地對工人好, 惡意中傷佢. 但隨著日子久了, 工人變得冇大冇細, 意見多多, 還試過偷親戚的錢, 又經常工作時間傾電話, 剩下親戚一個人看著對B. 其後親戚因屋企問題冇再當保母, 由婆婆來幫忙照顧BB, 工人更’蝦’婆婆善良, 連晚餐都唔煮, 知婆婆情急之下會自動走去煮, 氣得我半死, 之後仲越來越懶, 連清潔都唔多做. 最後更比我發現佢不是真心錫BB, 當然工人現在已回鄉了.

起初agent對我地話已經同個工人agree左, 每月只有兩天假期, 一年得四日法定假期, 我同老公本身都唔想違法, 而且認為一星期工作後有一天假期休息絕不過份, 所以每星期都比佢放假, 所有法定假期都比晒佢, 但這真是完全錯誤的一步, 工人放假多了, 在外面學壞的機會大了…….唉! 我覺得香港應該要好似SG咁, 對外傭的法例嚴苛一點, 才會對我地這些顧主公平. (題外話, 見有BK媽咪組織顧主聯盟, 雖然我冇報名, 但有密切留意佢地的情況, 有什麼可以幫得上的, 我都會盡一分綿力)

以前未有工人, 我總會本著我對人好, 人對我好的心態, 還曾經在BK這裡好開心說自己有個好工人, 認為時常換工人的人, 可能本身性格上都有問題. 但到今天, 我的睇法完全不同了, 工人始終係工人, 應該和他們保持一定的距離, 佢地來港工作只為賺錢, 不是來同我地講心, 你對佢地好, 只會令佢地覺得自己好了不起, 就變得目中無顧主, 當然我地作為顧主, 唔好刻薄個工人, 盡左我地自己的責任便算了.


大宅

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發表於 05-4-23 10:38 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾

Babe
身同感受,因為我都係咁. :-( :-(


大宅

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發表於 05-4-23 10:58 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾

淑筠媽咪, Babe, Summer123,

Me too. But it's the past experience.

Now, the 2 maid, I always remind myself don't too good to her, so far, this maid work for us already 7 months, she still ok.

Actully, I think over 90% mother will have the same experience if they are the first time to employ a maid.


別墅

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發表於 05-4-23 13:06 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾

我都決定要換個新工人, 對個新工人都會嚴啲, 唔會咁好人. 現在個工人開頭對佢太好, 而家我有啲要求時, 佢都唔係好鐘意. 有時啲賓賓話香港僱主唔好, 但係有時都係佢地做成, 佢地太唔珍惜同得寸進尺.


複式洋房

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發表於 05-4-23 14:05 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾经觉得自己的工人非常好,但是现在? />
gigilongma

I have same bad experience,antything I can help or share? pls check PM. or email <[email protected]> to leave your contact.

I'm outtown Sun 24/4 until next thur.

don't worry



JKfish


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發表於 05-4-23 14:22 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾经觉得自己的工人非常好,但是现在? />
忍無可忍

各位媽咪:

唔好等運到,希望自已撞到個好官——個官唔好,咁點?
我都有掙扎——好唔好cut lost 畀佢屈少少,賠錢送瘟神/賊?

多得大家鼓勵、教路,用了好多時間準備、加上運氣,才算「慘勝」——法庭無定罪,個賊都可以再申請來港!!!
損失的財物、時間,期間的心情起伏.......。


1>香港政府應全面檢討整套引入外籍家庭傭工的政策、法規及執行與運作情況。

2>目前沒有法例,或任何機制(如類似規管地產代理、旅行社的監管局或自律組織),規管雇傭公司不良經營手法,或從業員的業務水平。經常發生雇傭公司欺騙雇主、教唆違反法例,陷人入罪!

3>由於《商品說明條例》,並不包括「服務」,雇傭公司對工人資料的虛假陳述,雇主只能靠運氣、難以循法律途徑追回損失(但外傭又無試用期無試用期!)對雇主並不公平。

4>勞工法規定受雇7日解聘,也不需補一個月代通知金,為何外傭除了有一個月代通知金,還有回程機票?

即使法庭定了罪如盜竊、傷害他人身體等,都要雇主出回程機票,無疑令不良外傭減低「犯罪成本」。

5>現時的運作機制,客觀效果是鼓勵了不良工人濫用司法程序,誣告雇主,藉機敲詐、壓逼雇主

6>雇傭公司與外傭的工作水平,其實嚴重影響雇主家庭的老弱病殘,及兒童幼兒等未成年人的生命安全與健康、家庭財產、家居安全與生活質素。

如果投資界都要有監管,以保障小投資者,外傭服務顯然需要加強監管,改善運作機制!

我已與聯絡過我的顧主們,準備收集苦主被屈/無奈賠錢的個案,促請傳媒、立法會議員及政府關注

Pls PM me your mobile or email ,
my email :<[email protected]>

sj1683 ,pls pm me. Thanks.


謝謝大家之前的鼓勵安慰 ,但要扭轉現時的惡劣處境,呻完就當自已見唔好彩,只會令問題日益惡化!!!!

發生在我們身上的不是個別事件,而是危急的現實

請提供您的個案


大宅

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發表於 05-4-23 14:26 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾

[size=large]絕對同意!
以前未有工人, 我總會本著我對人好, 人對我好的心態, 還曾經在BK這裡好開心說自己有個好工人, 認為時常換工人的人, 可能本身性格上都有問題. 但到今天, 我的睇法完全不同了, 工人始終係工人, 應該和他們保持一定的距離, 佢地來港工作只為賺錢, 不是來同我地講心, 你對佢地好, 只會令佢地覺得自己好了不起, 就變得目中無顧主, 當然我地作為顧主, 唔好刻薄個工人, 盡左我地自己的責任便算了.


複式洋房

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發表於 05-4-24 02:21 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾

I have the same feeling too...... being nice is a natural character, but it also depends on the receiver, the trickeness of the helper comes with time and her influential firiends. That's why I don't like if they dress and make up too funny.....It is very hard to stop people from becoming worst. The only thing I hope is when my children grow a bit older and they can tell me what happen when I am not arround, hopefully, we will rely less on the helper to run the house.....Being a mummy, going out or to work with worrying sick to the children at home is a very tiring thing to do.... that's why grandmothers are nices sometimes!!!

cheers
ethaniels


大宅

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發表於 05-4-24 23:04 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾

I have the same experience, totally agree.


大宅

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發表於 05-4-24 23:22 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾

同意Babe的看法.

我的工人各方面表現都很好,年多以來,我和家人不斷讚賞她.可能使她覺得我們很滿意她,她便開始躲懶了.

到今天,我仍然覺得我工人很好.但當我知道她偷偷做我不准她做的事時,我感到極之失望.為了掩飾,她還講大話.

我先生對她很客氣,她就對他愈來愈不客氣.

為此,我決定裝眼仔.裝了以後,反而感覺舒服了.
看到工人實在好錫我BB.對她的瑕疵,就看開一點了.

現在要想的是續約事宜.還未決定.我是否跟一個90%滿意的工人續約?她只會續一次約,會否愈來愈放肆?好煩!!!
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發表於 05-4-24 23:53 |只看該作者

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大宅

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發表於 05-4-25 10:57 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾

我極之後悔
我對她好好 ,好到帶埋佢去星加波同日本travel
每月都係3670+400稅,仲要佢想放sat,如我short week 就放,
佢俾我見到佢D單借JCB,話幫人借,我原諒左佢,佢唔太乾淨,以前會教吓我個仔,而家唔理佢,落街就自己talk mobile ,每晚11-12點在仔房talk mobilephone,
唔理佢,有其他媽媽話佢差,最近仲有一個亞媽話我仔同佢個仔一齊放學冲出馬路,她唔知在边度,好彩人哋救咗我個仔。
佢仲用我個computer上Yahoo Messenger,媾仔,
我哋昨晚話佢,all she deny.有媽咪見佢送左我個仔返學后私自出街,佢話買嘢,今朝7點同我講上午11點有男人上嚟收佢D行李寄返philipine,我嬲到想死


複式洋房

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發表於 05-4-25 13:14 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾

其實我都挺後悔,以前實在對她太好,去邊都帶埋佢,旅遊、吃自助餐......對佢亦無要求,只要她能照顧囡囡便算。現在她愈來愈放肆,囡囡大了,跟本不用像看牛仔一樣辛苦,她已超晏起床、睡午覺、不用煮飯、但廚櫃竟然還可以封塵......加上已問過我借三次錢......我曾經打算換另一個工人,但她對囡囡實在不錯,至少可看出是出自真心的,我不能肯定換了新的工人,那新工人會對我囡囡像她一樣好,加上我知她的家庭負擔也挺重的,所以我始終下不了手。


別墅

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發表於 05-4-25 21:02 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾

好激氣, 真想個新工人快啲嚟. 個工人都做咗年半, 諗住炒菜咁簡單都唔駛點睇. 今晚咁啱係佢炒菜時入廚房俾我見到, 半個鍋都係水, 咁佢就拿住個鍋鏟係度攪吓攪吓, 佢就話咁會啲菜(芥蘭)會快熟快諗啲. 咁都叫炒菜. 想放心俾啲工人自動波都唔得, 攪到我成日要check住, 重慘過自己做. 講真佢嚟咗之後我比以前重多要出街食早餐. 佢成日遲過我哋起身, 攪到我同我老公要拿拿林攪諗亞仔先可以番工. 而家夏天亞仔更加早起身, 我地差啲要開埋奶俾亞仔, 我地都要讓個廁所俾佢用完先輪到我哋, 唔通要佢未擦牙洗面就揪亞仔咩. :evil:


大宅

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發表於 05-4-25 22:56 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾

I wrote before. My husband & I used to think we hired a very good Philippino helper. She looked after my son till he was 3 years old. Everytime she asked for going home, I let her as I was a full time mum. She could take holidays as long as 4 weeks each year!

One day, she cried in front of me saying her dad died of heart attack. I empathized her & asked if she need to go home. I also cried too. I checked the airfare for her as it might be expensive as such a short notice. She said she would come back in 5 days.

She didn't. Back then, I was 7 months pregnant with a 3yo boy. I had spotting through out my pregnancy. I was supposed to bed rest, but I let her go & my husband blamed me. How cruel it was for her not to give me one month notice to hire a replacement? I used to think we were in good terms.

Then I heard from other helpers in the building that her father didn't die! It was a lie! Who would tell such a lie?! Other helpers told her to give me notice but she still didn't!!!! She complained to other people that I didn't give her enough food to eat. Hey, she was the one to cook & get the food first before she served us dinner!!! I often asked if she has taken the food & asked her to take more as I found she took little from us. She said that was enough & she wanted to lose weight as her husband complained she put on much weight after working for me. If she didn't tell me, how did I know what she was thinking!

The worst nightmare is she didn't say goodbye to my son. He missed her so much, his personality changed when the maid disappeared. Thank you very much. My husband & I now admitted we never knew about this helper.

Even so, it's our human nature to treat whoever is (or appears to be) good to us. One of my helpers is quite good. I really appreciate it. I treat her better than the average employer, I suppose.... Hopefully she will not disappoint me.


民房

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發表於 05-4-26 00:51 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾

I got the same experience. She worked for me 2 years. we paid her $3800 per month. She said that her mom was sick, we sent card and gave money, but later then, she became so lazy, talked thru phone till 1:am and got up 8:15am, at noon she talked a lot of personal phone and ignored my son. The most worst case was she stealed things. Last oct, she was shopliftting at Jusco and caught by the police. She fired her immediately.


子爵府

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發表於 05-4-26 10:31 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾

各位媽咪的苦況, 我很明白, 因為我自已也身同心受, 但做為媽咪的求乜


大宅

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發表於 05-4-26 23:18 |只看該作者

Re: 有没有妈妈曾

我倒是工人一个比一个好
之前就是怕新的工人不好
结果
还是自己的直觉是对的
勉强没有幸福啦!

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