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複式洋房

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發表於 06-4-20 11:28 |只看該作者

Gospel of Judas

The Gospel of Judas and what it argues—that Judas was Jesus' most loyal disciple, who betrayed him at Christ's own request—is at odds with traditional Christian teachings. Lost for nearly 1,700 years, National Geographic Society has recently brought it back to light. If you wish to explore this early Christian belief, please visit:

http://www9.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/feature.html


大宅

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發表於 06-4-20 12:15 |只看該作者

Re: Gospel of Judas

Jokey2828,

Please be careful when you recommend program or shows to others. Do you believe that Jesus told Judas to betray him?

I don't think this TV program is worth recommending to others at all. It may cause the weak to doubt Jesus' faithfullness. We should be careful not to cause others to stumble.
耶和華是我的牧者.我必不至缺乏。Thanks God for my lovely family.


子爵府

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發表於 06-4-20 12:43 |只看該作者

Re: Gospel of Judas

Jen,

I feel the same way you do. I am just wondering the purposes of Jokey2828 introducing this program here in this forum if he is a Christian. So, I have been to that site to have a look, see anything is positive. Well... conclusion is, NOT GOOD when the Faith is not strong enough.

Know more is good, but if one is weak he will fall in these kinds of feature articles.

Christian that have study more in their religion might know that, when the Bible is formed, a lot of books are not included. It was not hidding away secrets, only that it was believed that the content was not written under the spirit of God.
「多元社區,和諧並存;你我出手,聾健共融 」


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發表於 06-4-20 13:06 |只看該作者

Re: Gospel of Judas

唔~~ 我發覺,又怪不得Jokey2828,基督教週報《時代論壇》也有一樣的報導!

但我覺得,也該引述教會牧者對此事的報導及回應,作為對大眾弟兄姊妹信心的平衡。

1. 台灣基督新報
2. [url=http://www.christiantimes.org.hk/Common/Reader/News/ShowNews.jsp?Nid=34490&id=1&Version=0&Cid=146&Charset=big5_hkscs#]對台灣基督新報 的回應[/url]
3. Catholic News - Gospel of Judas does not deserve the name "gospel"
4. [url=http://www.christiantimes.org.hk/Common/Reader/News/ShowNews.jsp?Nid=34528&id=1&Version=0&Cid=146&Charset=big5_hkscs]考古學上重要發現不等於內容正確[/url]


「多元社區,和諧並存;你我出手,聾健共融 」


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發表於 06-4-20 14:29 |只看該作者

Re: Gospel of Judas



100% Agree. Knowing more is good, but when one is weak....

It is not easy to stand firm in these days. We really need to study the Bible by heart, and follow HIM strictly.

Thanks very much for your sharing also.


jk67jk 寫道:
Jen,

I feel the same way you do. I am just wondering the purposes of Jokey2828 introducing this program here in this forum if he is a Christian. So, I have been to that site to have a look, see anything is positive. Well... conclusion is, NOT GOOD when the Faith is not strong enough.

Know more is good, but if one is weak he will fall in these kinds of feature articles.

Christian that have study more in their religion might know that, when the Bible is formed, a lot of books are not included. It was not hidding away secrets, only that it was believed that the content was not written under the spirit of God.
耶和華是我的牧者.我必不至缺乏。Thanks God for my lovely family.


複式洋房

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發表於 06-4-20 15:56 |只看該作者

Re: Gospel of Judas

The article on Gospel of Judas by National Geographic is about an archeological discovery of the Gospel, and a study of how Gnostic thinking at that time affected the early Christian belief. I cannot figure out how brothers and sisters would stumble and fall by reading the article.

Even if Judas were not a betrayer, as is depicted in the Gospel, what would happen to the Christian faith? Would they stop following Jesus?

See the comments from 台灣基督新報, to which 67jk67 refers.

《猶大福音》不能動搖基督教傳統信仰
《猶大福音》的問世,雖然受到舉世注目,但似乎沒有動搖基督教傳統的信仰,它只不過是基督教新的考古發現,告訴我們另類的說法,使我們擁有另一幅猶大的畫像,進入猶大內心爭扎衝突的世界,也提醒我們當年的福音書,即所謂的「好消息」,竟然也包括了背叛者猶大,這個好消息是採用大家視為背叛的行為來成就的。

早期教會信仰在形成過程中的多元與複雜性,在此顯露無疑,但同時也提醒我們,誰才能真正代表上帝?誰來決定什麼是正典?用什麼標準來決定?這個標準又是誰來決定?習於訴諸權威的思考模式,或許從《猶大福音》可以得到啟發。

I speak not in vindication of Judas, but an irresponsible accusation against a follower of Jesus Christ.


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發表於 06-4-20 16:46 |只看該作者

Re: Gospel of Judas

Jokey2828

I apologize if I use words too strong. I don't mean to accuse, but to warn Christian to be careful with what what we recommend.

I won't recommend people to watch the "Gospel of Judas" the same way I won't recommend anyone to read "The Da Vinci Code".

"The Da Vinci Code" is a fiction, is not true, but it causes people to doubt the integrity of the Bible. It is ok for mature Christian to read them, so they know how to defend themselves when challenged. However, they are not to be recommended readings.

Mature Christians will never doubt the truthfulness of the Bible just because of these, but the weak and the unbelievers. If Judas is not the betrayer, the Bible is not true. It states clearly in Matthew 10:4 that Judas betrayed:
Simon the Zealot and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him.

A lot of Christinas are working very hard to spread the gospel, to convince unbelievers the Bible is the true words of God; God is love; God is faithful. These books confuse people, and simply make our life harder.
耶和華是我的牧者.我必不至缺乏。Thanks God for my lovely family.


子爵府

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發表於 06-4-20 16:57 |只看該作者

Re: Gospel of Judas

Jokey 2828,

That's why I also posted a " Response" to the article in 台灣基督新報 which someone already criticized his article might has caused confusion to Christian.

Actually, I initially want to delete 台灣基督新報's hyperlink after I read thoroughly what it was written. However, I thought somebody might have already read; so better make it up by linking up a comment to this article.
「多元社區,和諧並存;你我出手,聾健共融 」

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