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發表於 06-6-17 02:15 |只看該作者

請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

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發表於 06-6-17 09:44 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

i want to know also.......

as i have read an article which stated that baby plus will hurt the sense of hearing of the baby... so really want to know whether anyone has used it....and the comments for it...

Thx.


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發表於 06-6-17 10:45 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

I used baby plus starting from 18 weeks' pregnancy and my baby is now 1.5 month. Frankly, I think it's hard to prove the effectiveness of baby plus because I don't know what will it be like if I didn't use it.

When I purchased it, I have thought that if it's useless (provided that it's not harmful), then let it go. If it's useful (just like what the promotion mentioned), then, it's good for my baby. Even at this stage, I really don't know if this works.

Thanks God that even my baby makes many noise at nite, she can sleep overnight (11: 00 last meal and wake up at 6-7am) at her 2nd week.


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發表於 06-6-17 12:11 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

siumi,

would you please tell me where i can buy it and what's the price?

Thx.


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發表於 06-6-17 20:18 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

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發表於 06-6-18 07:40 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

me too, coz am using it from 18weeks till now.

Thanks
Elimme 寫道:
ah-ta ,
There's an article about the harm of baby plus? What 's the details? Can you tell me more about it cos I have no idea on it!! Thank you


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發表於 06-6-18 12:48 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

ah-ta,
you can refer to the promotion / banner in BK


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發表於 06-6-19 13:10 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

actually, i read that article as below:

■这种音乐通过母体的传递,被胎儿的听觉神经感受到时已不再是原有意义上的和谐的旋律与节奏,而只是一个单纯的物理声波,是有害的噪声

时下,胎教的内容大体有这样几种:听胎教音乐、对胎儿说话、看漂亮人物的图片,以及抚摩腹部和做胎教操。通过上述方法,从听觉、视觉、触觉方面对胎儿进行刺激,从而对其生长发育产生积极影响。可是,丁教授指出:“听觉、视觉和触觉这些都是生理学参数,并且,现在我们能看到的,包括从事胎教研究的人提供的,以及他们发表的论文,其中所采用的实验都是生理学实验。给胎儿听音乐,得到的结果是胎儿的听力阈值下降了,胎教专家因此判断这种方法是科学的、可行的,它产生了良性效果。然而国际生理学界的共同评判是,胎儿听力阈值下降证明,这种音乐通过母体的传递,被胎儿的听觉神经感受到时已不再是原有意义上的和谐的旋律与节奏,而只是一个单纯的物理声波,是有害的噪声,而不是音乐教育,它造成胎儿的易干扰和易激惹性。也就是说,本来给胎儿一定音量的声音才能引起他的反应,而现在,一个比原来音量还要低的声音就能引起他的反应,表面上看起来,胎儿变得伶俐了,但实际上,这使得胎儿神经紧张,得不到安静的环境。而且这种伤害还不是短期内就能表现出来的。”

so i want to know more comments about those mama who has used this products.....


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發表於 06-6-19 16:10 |只看該作者

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發表於 06-6-19 16:21 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

Elimme,

http://www.people.com.cn/GB/kejiao/41/20030325/953202.html

i don't know how to decide also..... :-|


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發表於 06-6-27 02:31 |只看該作者

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發表於 06-6-27 10:01 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

我會去聽完講座先決定


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發表於 06-6-28 10:32 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

Elimme,

我而家大約6wks, 你呢?

今個week會去看醫生, 因為上次都未聽到心跳, 希望今次聽到啦.........


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發表於 06-6-28 12:19 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

本帖最後由 galiegalie 於 11-11-21 14:33 編輯


Dear Thomas,

Could you please forward my response to Mr. Jensen; I am assuming that portion of your email in quotes is part or all of the article in question, and hope the following addresses his concerns:

1. Since most sounds in a pregnant mother's environment (conversation, television, radio, CD, DVD, etc.) reach her unborn child--whose hearing begins at 14 weeks after conception--with only a 30 decibel reduction from passing through abdominal tissue, bone, and fluid, and such sonic activity is present throughout all of her waking days, then all modern babies would be born "aggressive and restless." Worse, what about the mother's own blood pulsing past the placenta 24 hours a day at a peak volume of 95 decibels--loud as a rock band! But just the opposite is true: Heartbeat sounds, and similar rhythms such as BabyPlus produces either put an infant to sleep (about 80 percent of the time while in the womb), or evokes arm and leg movements--as well as regularized ingestion and expulsion of amniotic fluid, practice for postnatal breathing, at the same tempo as the source; moreover, while sleep occurs, fetal EEG shows an unconscious awareness of these rhythms by registering identical patterns in the baby's developing brain. It is simply untrue that the womb is a place of silence: Hydrophone recordings prove it to be an extremely noisy environment all the time; relief comes only after the baby is born.

2. With over 100,000 BabyPlus children born--the oldest group now age 19--showing consistently superlative mental, social, and creative skills, longterm benefits have been verified beyond any doubt by independent, controlled clinical studies (even comparing the effects of music), and published in peer-reviewed academic journals. No signs of unusual nervousness or agitation have been detected.

3. Sensory abilities such as "hearing, sight, and touch" are educational, not biological processes. Dr. Ding will find answers to his questions in any of the professional papers posted in their entirety under "The Science" on www.babyplus.com, as well in my book, Learning before Birth.

If there are further questions concerning BabyPlus, please let me know--or professionals may contact me directly at [email protected].

Best wishes,

Brent Logan, Ph.D., Director
Prenatal Institute, Seattle


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發表於 06-6-28 14:53 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

sorry~ 段英文太長,可唔可以用中文簡單講下內容~


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發表於 06-6-28 15:25 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

galiegalie,

thanks for your information.

i m still thinking of whether to buy the product. my husband n i would like to read the scientific research papers of this product before making this decision but we ve checked the "pubmed" of national library of medicine and the national institute of health but could not find any relevant research paper of this product. would u mind letting us know the email address or any contact information of Thomas so that we can approach him direct for such information.

million thanks for your kind assistance.


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發表於 06-6-28 16:16 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

bakusensei,

如果你問到,可唔可以post上黎呀,因為我都想知,但唔知點搵同埋咩research先係可靠...

希望你有咩資料可以講埋俾我地知...

Thanks a lot. :wink:


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發表於 06-6-28 18:31 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

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發表於 06-6-28 18:35 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有人用過baby plus, kinder U嗎?

係未呢段呀? (d簡體字好難睇!)

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