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複式洋房

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發表於 06-9-14 23:39 |只看該作者

選擇合心水家傭需知

我是"我有好bunbun介紹"的琪琪, 透過這個topic, 我認識了好多bk媽咪,發覺好多新媽咪都唔知點去手選好家傭, 有見及此,亦應部份新媽媽的要求,就將小小的經驗打出來,與大家分享,更希望姊姊們都把你們的經驗與大家一起分享,希望在這bk的平台中發展更團結同互助的精神。

從文件中挑選,要留意如下:
1. 年齡 - 28 - 35 (太細怕佢壞, 思想行為都不夠成熟, 甚至怕自己個老公!!!!!!!) 但如果是要照顧初生就最好選young一點的, 即28左右, 三十幾就怕佢老沒精神照顧bb.
2. 已婚與未婚 - 都好難選,已婚有仔女又怕佢掛住d仔女, 心不在焉, 未婚又怕佢話要返去結婚, 所以選的時候要為自己做好心理準備,要預左,等自己好過D。
3. 仔女的年齡 - 仔大女大當然好一點啦!
4. 住的地點亦要留意,大多數都表示越近馬尼拉越好英文,太鄉村的地方的英語水平較差。(有機會當面傾談就最好啦!佢地係美式英語,與我們的香港式英語有些音是有很大分別的, 不過最緊要是你聽得明白,溝通是很重要的)
5. 工作經驗 - 有新加坡經驗就最好, 台灣的就次一等。

我透過真人面對面選到我的好bunbun過程如下:
因為之前我的工人年齡較大46歲, 所以想選一個較年輕的, agent 就極力推薦一個25歲, 第一次來港的bunbun, 我都不大喜歡, 因為太細了, 但係即時面見,見下都無所謂 - 她很害羞, 根本就不敢說話, 又表達不到自己, agent說她剛下機, 沒有見工經驗, 我當然沒有選她啦!(我有一個朋友請了她, 於兩個月內炒了她,所以agent 的說話不用聽, 他們都不認識這些工人)

我選了另一個35歲, 有三個小孩, 她的相片化了妝, 我不喜歡的, 又即管見見,當日見面時,她是很樸素的, 她一坐下來,很有禮物向我們問好, 我的先生便叫小兒坐在她旁, 她便抱起我的兒子, 開始教他畫圖畫, 畫完隻bear又教他讀同串, 小兒很喜歡她,
1. 我便叫他自我介紹, 她說得很流利, (但不可作準, 因為她們大可以在之前背定), 其中有一個字我不懂的, 我叫她解釋是什麼, 她好耐心的告訴我 – 意思是她的老公已離世了;
2. 再問她有關於小孩受傷的問題 (或發燒等等), 叫她step by step 的告訴我要怎樣做, 佢將膠布、消毒藥水等的字眼都能說出來 (agent幫我translate), 我都不懂這些字, 除這些生字, 她其他的發音我都聽得很清楚, 相信她的英語真的不錯。
3. What do her like to do after work? She likes reading. (我喜歡這個答案, 愛看書的人, 大多有上進, 喜歡學習的, 因為到了你家, 佢有好多野要學)
4. 仔女的成績如何, 從中得知她懂不懂教小孩, 對小孩有要求的, 對自己都會有要求。(她要兒子讀私校, 她說私校是小班教學, 公立每班有六十多人, 她的子女已懂得READ ENGLISH NEWSPAPER, (最大的是六年級)) 我覺得佢個MIND 與我好近.
5. 我告訴她, 我家的情況及主要工作:
甲、 一家三口
乙、 主力照顧小孩, 同佢好, read books
丙、 婆婆間中來教佢做野同煮飯
丁、 要煮中午同晚飯
戊、 打掃
6. 問佢願唔願意打我地工, 我覺得佢都應該有權選擇, 如果佢唔仲意我地, 免強同我地簽約都無意思.

仲有野想寫, 太累了, 明天再打啦!

:-) :-D :-D :-D :-D


複式洋房

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發表於 06-9-18 12:02 |只看該作者

Re: 選擇合心水家傭需知

姊妹們!你們又沒有回應又沒有input, 我一個人打好悶, 內容又不夠充實, 比d回應我啦, 罵下我, 話我講得唔好都好呀, 這樣才有更好的需知, 幫下手寫D大家分享下啦。

:-) :-D :-D :-D :-D


大宅

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發表於 06-9-18 12:20 |只看該作者

Re: 選擇合心水家傭需知

係丫..我個印印都係在新加坡做左5年..後來要反去結婚..所以先唔做..印印來講..佢既english都算唔錯..so far 佢而家做緊3rd year..都ok..人係無十全十美既..


伯爵府

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發表於 06-9-18 12:28 |只看該作者

Re: 選擇合心水家傭需知

您出於好意打咁多comment, 我地又點會罵您呢, 錫您都黎唔切啦. 昨天family day嘛, monday早上又會忙d, 梗係會少d人上黎發言啦....(平時我一開工就上bk, 今日我都成noon先上bk 咯...)

您d comment都唔錯既, 不過都係o個句啦, 睇您好唔好彩, 世事無絕對.

唔同既工種有唔同既要求, 湊bb同照顧老人家既requirement又唔同. 仲有個工人既background同experience, 甚至reference都可以老作. agent可唔可信又係好重要. 您選人人選您, 佢對employer既期望, 工作環境 (照顧對像, 人數, 生活模式)又同佢鐘唔鐘意份工好有關係. 佢可以做晒戲, 一返工就唔同晒, 亦可以好快學壞 (我只見工人學壞, 未見過一個工人會學好的).

我選工人都係睇眼緣, firstly agent, 其次係interview, 到experience/reference, 最後至係background. 我認我係以貌取人, 因為我早上夜晚都見到佢, 我唔想搵個令我發惡夢的, 同埋我陀bb時請的, 所以我要搵個好樣d既, 唔好嚇親個bb.


複式洋房

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發表於 06-9-18 23:31 |只看該作者

Re: 選擇合心水家傭需知

kei kei,

你就好啦!我一直都想揾個好似你個工人咁嘅,但未揾到呀!剛剛有同事介紹了一個快完約的工人,亦在星期天與她interveiw. (As my chinese typing is as slow as a walk of a tortise, so I change it to English.) She is 48 year old, confident and have over 20 year of taking care children from new born to 11 years. She said she is strict to children, and they should follow her schedule whatever eating, playing or sleeping.

Actually, I am quite satisfactory with her experience of taking care children. However, after the interveiw, I have a pressure and feeling that she is not only strict to my child but also me. I don't want to take another back home.

Besides, she told me that she would go back philipine when the she finish her exisiting contract and if I start a new contract with her, I have to pay for the tickets from philiphine (including a domestic fight) to Hong Kong. I wonder it is my responsible to pay for the ticket??? She also suggested me to engage an agency she recommended and it is going to charge me at HK$3,XXX (included the tickets). Then I told her that some agency is just charge for ~HK1,XXX, the one she recommended is expensive. She then told me that these kind of agency will charge on both side and she think it's my responsibility to pay for the fee as I am the employer.

I am still 15/16, as my daughter is just 2 and half year old and her experience will of course make me more relax at work. However, I don't kown whether we will have a lot of fright after I engaged her.

Please comment


別墅

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發表於 06-9-19 01:08 |只看該作者

Re: 選擇合心水家傭需知

I don't think you should employ this maid, at least not for me, because she has too much experience. She has her own set of values and will not easily give in to employer's view. Of course, employers give instructions based on their own reasons, but this kind of maid will also have their own views and rarely sympathes the employer. Also, she knows the labour laws very well and even familiar with how agencies charge. She will *give you* her instructions of how to do the employment procedures and make you pay all the charges. She will ask you reimburse every cents that she spend out of pocket. She is too good at bargaining for more benefits.
I know this because my 99's maid has similar attitudes. She worked in HK for many years now. She is very skillful but her attitudes are very frustrating to employers.
Unless you don't mind, I don't think this is the way a maid should behave. And you have to be careful that you never owe her any money, holiday, or anything otherwise I am sure you will be in trouble.


複式洋房

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發表於 06-9-19 08:39 |只看該作者

Re: 選擇合心水家傭需知

Hi! Amy,

I have very bad experience with old helper (46 years old). NOW I am very very afriad to the old helper. My ex-old helper, she seems my grandma. I have to listen to her. She seems a madam instead of me. This is my bad experience for your consideration.

Also, the experienced bunbun is quite trouble. She knows every laws. She knows what is the processing of the agency. Also, if you wanna to employ a domestic helper though a agency, it takes lesser than $1000. (Yes, the agency will charge both, so that you can safe your money)

One more thing, she is too old, she may not willing to play with a baby girl.

The old bunbun is more easy to getting tired. They need to sleep very early.

I am sorry to let you know that I cannot found any good reason to employ a OLD bunbun.

May I know the helper's name - is she JACKXXXXXX.

Hope we are not talking the same.

You may find some more or don't you meet an agency which you can face to face to interview with the bunbun?????

Good luck.
:-) :-D :-D :-D :-D


別墅

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發表於 06-9-19 08:50 |只看該作者

Re: 選擇合心水家傭需知

Kei-Kei,
你可以face-to-face咁interview, 咁係咪請個hk contract end ga, 點解唔見你問佢 working experience 或者點解 quit 左之前份工呢?


複式洋房

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發表於 06-9-19 10:03 |只看該作者

Re: 選擇合心水家傭需知

Hi! 皮亞莉,

She is the first time to HK. The agency sent many helper to the office and wait for interview.



:-) :-D :-D :-D :-D


洋房

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發表於 06-9-19 10:55 |只看該作者

Re: 選擇合心水家傭需知

Dear Kei-Kei,
Hi! Your topic is very helpful! Yet, why can the bunbun come to HK and wait for interviews without employment contract?
Best regards,
kukkukmama


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發表於 06-9-19 11:17 |只看該作者

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珍珠宮

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發表於 06-9-19 12:38 |只看該作者

Re: 選擇合心水家傭需知

kiekie & 各位媽咪:
我雖然係透過熟人介紹bunbun,無經agent,但都覺得你地的建議好有用。
我第一次請工人,完全唔識handle佢,好彩佢好有經驗,個人又好nice,如果唔係我就死lu。所以我比較喜歡年紀大一點的,我工人四十歲啦,我覺得佢好有阿媽feel,我好依靠佢o架。
有時星期六,我地會有family day,我問佢你想唔想同我地一齊去,還是留係屋企?佢答得好得體,佢話:it’s up to you, mom.我先諗到,係喎,我應該出主意,如果呢個係惡bunbun,肯定蝦死我。
又由於我個工人年紀大,佢好識人情世故,又唔會學懷,識得分邊d係衰同鄉,邊d係好同鄉,佢仲成日同我講,話有時d同鄉成日講僱住壞話,諗埋d方法整蠱僱主,佢都會出聲話佢地。
另外,我個工人有三個女,最細都有16歲,所以佢都好專心同我打工,又好識得照顧我個BB。好多時關於照顧BB的問題,我都請教佢,例如BB便便正唔正常呀?佢要著幾多衫先夠呀?我都會聽佢意見。仲有,佢又發現我個仔有小腸氣,真係好細心,好叻。
我亦好贊同喜歡睇書的bunbun會比較好,因為好學。我個工人閒時最鍾意睇cook book,好鍾意跟住cook book整野食,好掂∼!
我綜合返我個好bun的特徵,好贊同kei kei的睇法:
1. 年紀不要太細
2. 最好仔大女大
3. 愛閱讀
如果我下次要請第二個bun,我盡可能搵返好似我依家工人咁的背景條件。


洋房

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發表於 06-9-19 13:41 |只看該作者

Re: 選擇合心水家傭需知

請問您在那間公司請工人,$?
我家只有兩大一小5歲半男孩,一小dog
先生唔食牛肉,
bun bun 是否好過印印?


珍珠宮

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發表於 06-9-19 15:07 |只看該作者

Re: 選擇合心水家傭需知

PPKWOK:
我唔係經agent o架,係熟人介紹。
我無請過印印,無從比較喎~~
PPKWOK 寫道:
請問您在那間公司請工人,$?
我家只有兩大一小5歲半男孩,一小dog
先生唔食牛肉,
bun bun 是否好過印印?


大宅

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發表於 06-9-20 01:28 |只看該作者

Re: 選擇合心水家傭需知

amy001,

If I were you, I would not consider the maid aged 48. Besides, "grandma" style is out of control. 眼又矇,耳又聾,she is too old to take care a 2-yr-old girl.


複式洋房

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發表於 06-9-20 02:41 |只看該作者

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hkfireice 寫道:
amy001,

If I were you, I would not consider the maid aged 48. Besides, "grandma" style is out of control. 眼又矇,耳又聾,she is too old to take care a 2-yr-old girl.


I am Totally agree!
更何況你未請佢已多多要求, 遲o的更worse!
;-)


複式洋房

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發表於 06-9-20 06:28 |只看該作者

Re: 選擇合心水家傭需知

Dear Kukkukmama,

I asked my agent to make some papers for my maid yesterday, by the way I did ask him regarding how to send the maid to HK. He said the bunbun are take the travel visa to HK . Most of them are first time to HK. They have to find a mum within 2 weeks. After selected by a mum, the agent will sent her to Macau in a boarding house. Until they get the working visa, they will come back to HK.

Kei Kei
kukkukmama 寫道:
Dear Kei-Kei,
Hi! Your topic is very helpful! Yet, why can the bunbun come to HK and wait for interviews without employment contract?
Best regards,
kukkukmama
:-) :-D :-D :-D :-D


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發表於 06-9-20 11:10 |只看該作者

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大宅

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發表於 06-9-20 11:58 |只看該作者

Re: 選擇合心水家傭需知

Dear Kei Kei,

原來bunbun可以take the travel visa to HK , 可否 pm agent 資料給我嗎?
Thanks.

[quote]
Kei-Kei 寫道:
Dear Kukkukmama,

I asked my agent to make some papers for my maid yesterday, by the way I did ask him regarding how to send the maid to HK. He said the bunbun are take the travel visa to HK . Most of them are first time to HK. They have to find a mum within 2 weeks. After selected by a mum, the agent will sent her to Macau in a boarding house. Until they get the working visa, they will come back to HK.

Kei Kei

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