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發表於 17-4-19 14:46 |只看該作者 |正序瀏覽 |打印

請問有沒有人知道, 如果申請family settlement visa, 入境時全家入, 但如果爸爸fulfill 唔到居住年期, 會唔會影響小朋友2.5year 後申請PR/citizenship?

情況係, 我有居英權(from my parent), C6 and daughters 特區護照。但C6想留港工作, 又唔想因為咁扮離婚令小朋友可以攞family settlement visa.

Anyone can advise?

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本帖最後由 samkee 於 17-6-29 01:53 編輯

janehk 發表於 17-6-28 23:21
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唔該晒你啊! 我係o係 https://www.vfsglobal.co.uk/hongkong/pdf/Document-checklist. ...

IC，咁應係我個解釋都正確。
你有香港身份證，護照，已係有香港國藉及居留權，已足夠。

提下你，證明家庭成員同住，如電費單，保險單，最好提供不同時間，例如一張二年前，一張最近之類，也不用太多，但目的係證明到你們係同住。

搬運公司決定咗，但未定船期吧？定批咗先確認都未遲。

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唔該晒你啊! 我係o係 https://www.vfsglobal.co.uk/hongkong/pdf/Document-checklist.pdf 度搵到個checklist嘅! 係最尾果兩行. 我過兩星期就去遞表了

上次真係唔該晒你嘅幫忙, 我用咗你介紹嘅嗰間搬運公司

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janehk 發表於 17-6-27 22:46
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Hi Samkee, 你的資料很有用! 請問什麼是 'Evidence of your permission to be in the ...

對不起，你咁樣QUOTE 一段出來，喺在邊個手續邊份文件呢？

'Evidence of your permission to be in the country where you are applying, if you are not a national of that country'
呢句係講如你無國藉，咁獲准居留的文件。但如係香港人，有護照有身份證，就自動有居留權，咁用護照及身份證就得

'Evidence of family members remaining in your home country whilst you travel'?
呢句係邊度的，我不清楚。一般申請SETTLEMENT VISA，證明你及配偶同住的文件，最簡單就係銀行月結單，水費電費單之類，如子女，咁學校信，保險信之類都得，總之你提供到所有申請人同住地址的文件便可。

護照一般不用certified。

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發表於 17-6-27 22:46 |只看該作者

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Hi Samkee, 你的資料很有用! 請問什麼是 'Evidence of your permission to be in the country where you are applying, if you are not a national of that country'? 請問這是什麼文件?

另外請問什麼是 'Evidence of family members remaining in your home country whilst you travel'? 這個是必須的嗎?

申請人和配偶必須要已certified的護照副本嗎? 沒有certified的可以嗎?

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發表於 17-4-27 11:04 |只看該作者

samkee 發表於 17-4-27 10:33
thx 呢個係一個好例子，要做好功課，俾齊資料，要個官有根有據去批，唔齊資料個官係唔會幫你諗，照reject. ...

According to the guidelines, the requirement for EEA nationals children who born in UK can apply citizenship when their parents become British citizens and had lived in UK for 5 years.

I also think that their failure is because the parents didn't provide adequate evidence and lead to failure.

For children born abroad to a British by decent, the guideline is under different section with different requirements.

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thx 呢個係一個好例子，要做好功課，俾齊資料，要個官有根有據去批，唔齊資料個官係唔會幫你諗，照reject.
佢個申請須知都寫無要求乜必要資料，係要申請自己衡量要提供什麼作為足夠證據

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happyfleet 發表於 17-4-27 10:04
剛睇到報道 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4410894/EU-couple-devastated-children-denied-UK- ...

小朋友要住滿5年

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samkee 發表於 17-4-26 21:17
唔駛客氣，我最先都講左都唔太肯定，大家交流下都可以明白多D

因為佢成份野開頭都以parents為主，即父母都 ...

剛睇到報道 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4410894/EU-couple-devastated-children-denied-UK-residency.html

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唔駛客氣，我最先都講左都唔太肯定，大家交流下都可以明白多D

因為佢成份野開頭都以parents為主，即父母都要settle為主，所以我估以父母都是citizens 來決定18歲以下子女的安排。不過就算3.5係父或母係citizen，但都有一起在UK 3年要求，咁點都要住。

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發表於 17-4-26 13:23 |只看該作者

samkee, 好多謝你同我討論, 令我知道去邊到睇文件及條文。現在知道我開頭個"屎橋」唔work。

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發表於 17-4-26 13:19 |只看該作者

samkee 發表於 17-4-26 10:35
同意你說那應是BNO。

那3.5的理解，因3.2 係解釋citizen by descent , 那推論係要係父母都是British citiz ...

唔…… 我理解3.2 and 3.5 有些少唔同。

3(2) 係講parent 係by decent from a parent of otherwise by decent, 如果佢係小朋友出世前anytime 住夠三年可以同佢個小朋友申請British citizenship 但就小朋友個citizenship 會係 British by decent.

3(5) 係講小朋友申請citizenship 就要同父母一齊 have lived in UK for 3 years. 我理解係無特別指明both 父母都一定要by decent, 因為3(2) 都係refer 1個parent only. 只是要求父母都同一時期physical present in UK, and 一齊agree child register as a British Citizen. Through 3(5) 申請咁個小朋友會係British citizen otherwise by decent. 即是in better position than 3(2).

我無係英國連續住足三年, 只可以through 3(5) 俾個女。但3(5) 講明父母要一齊。即係我之前嘅諗法, 父親唔satisfy residence 要求，就一定攞唔到citizenship.

現在方法一係只有考慮legally separated 呢樣, if father is staying in HK.

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發表於 17-4-26 10:35 |只看該作者

本帖最後由 samkee 於 17-4-26 10:35 編輯

同意你說那應是BNO。

那3.5的理解，因3.2 係解釋citizen by descent , 那推論係要係父母都是British citizen by descent 的話，因不能pass給下一代，所以要用3.5，在子女15歲前，一起回UK 住3年以上，便可令小朋友入藉。

但如係只有父或母係citizen by descent, 那應有不同。所以才是settlement visa, 在另一半成為citizen 時，才能令子女入藉。以前有2定3年route, 但現存只有5及10年route，所以應係要5年，而且係spouse及子女一起。

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samkee 發表於 17-4-25 16:17
找到你應係睇呢個：
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/583385/ ...

本帖最後由 chumiguan 於 17-4-26 09:35 編輯

The category belongs to "children born outside U.K.", where there listed the territories belongs to U.K. Hence Hong Kong is not included as U.K. is correct.

But the 2nd part you've pointed out is correct. The guideline for Children under 18 to register as British citizen *does not cover* children born after 4th Feb 1997 in Hong Kong.

I read the guideline EM. It is related to the registration to British citizenship base on
Hong Kong Act 1997. There mainly talk about BNO etc.

To my guess and interpretation of wordings "does not cover" in the Children registry guideline, that may be saying the guideline hasn't covered children with BNO parents, their eligibility to apply BNO or British citizenship. This is quite cunning actually. Need to seek lawyers' advice.

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發表於 17-4-25 16:17 |只看該作者

找到你應係睇呢個：
https://www.gov.uk/government/up ... de_January_2017.pdf

不過呢個段之前係：
Children born abroad to British parents – Section 3(2) or section 3(5) application.
This category applies to children who:
 were born outside the United Kingdom
 if born after 21 May 2002, were born outside any of the British
overseas territories (listed below) and
 in either case, were born to parents who are British citizens by descent (see
“Automatic acquisition of British citizenship” in this guide).

係唔包括Hong Kong.

同埋在page 4：
Who is included in this guide and who is not included
It does not cover；
Children born on or after 4 February 1997 in Hong Kong – see guide EM

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samkee 發表於 17-4-25 06:54
無記錯的話，應係政府公職海外工作先計，一般公司外派工作應唔計。有錯請指正 ...

Yes, you are right. Only the Crown Service will do.

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發表於 17-4-25 13:56 |只看該作者

samkee 發表於 17-4-25 06:52
2.5 yrs 後小朋友可以申請citizenship，你係在哪裡找到資料呢？
這個我都仲未找到確實答案，有些說小朋友 ...

剛剛睇個Guideline about registration of children under 18. (唔知睇呢份啱唔啱)

Children born abroad to British parents:

Sec 3(2) parent is British by decent, and have lived in UK for 3 consecutive years at any time before the child was born. The child can apply British citizenship before the age of 18.

Sec 3(5) to qualify under this section the child and their mother and father should have lived in the U.K. for a 3 year period ending with the date the application is received.

That is, if I have lived in UK for 3 years before my child's birth they can apply without their father's naturalization.

And they can apply to register U.K. citizenship if both parents are in UK for 3 years.

For child

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chumiguan 發表於 17-4-19 16:52
And, 如果我c6係英國一間公司的employee但被派往外地公作, 咁可唔可以settle 呢？
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無記錯的話，應係政府公職海外工作先計，一般公司外派工作應唔計。有錯請指正

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