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發表於 19-6-16 22:43 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 ChingYee123 於 19-6-16 22:45 編輯

轉發自香討:
「香港警察不是怪物」 一位外國記者的真實記錄 暴動背後的真相!
Nury Vittachi日前在Facebook發帖,講述暴動當晚的經過,他沿途發現很多路障和瓦礫,期間有暴徒包圍警察,甚至向他們掟雜物。他認為當日有部份人刻意尋找衝突,他看見很多所謂的「示威者」,攜帶大量刀具,面具,護甲,甚至棍棒,情況令人擔憂

Vittachi表示,媒體的報道和拍下的片段讓警察看起來主動挑起暴力事件,其中部份在社交媒體上的片段,更容易激起人們的憤怒。但實際情況是警方早已通報不會主動發起攻擊,只是被動作出回應,但這些警察對抗暴徒的故事,卻沒有人講述,他強調香港警察不是怪物!
講得好!部份媒體立場偏頗,將片段刻意刪減,報道時更避開暴徒衝擊的事實,反而將鏡頭放在警方清場身上,有挑動警民關係之嫌。這位外國記者總算講返句公道話,這才是暴動背後的真相!
附上英文原文:

IT WAS NEARLY MIDNIGHT when I heard the shouting. I was walking along a road in the heart of my beloved hometown, which now looked like a war zone: all barricades and rubble. The ground-floor Starbucks at Pacific Place was closed, of course, but could have done good business—there were many people on the street.
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I followed the sound of the shouting and saw that a team of police officers had arrived on foot to help clear space.
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But they were instantly surrounded by a mob, shouting and screaming foul abuse at them, some using megaphones.
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The young man next to me instantly started throwing things at them.
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Other protestors ran towards us and the mob to form a huge crowd, surrounding the officers.
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You could see how easily it could have turned into a fight, but the police—thank God--just took the abuse without responding except with shouts.
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Three thoughts: I felt much more scared for the officers, many of whom were worried looking young men, than for the protestors, who greatly outnumbered them.
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Second, I felt scared for myself: you could easily see how this scene could turn into a battle and I was in the middle of it taking pictures.
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Third, I was scared for Hong Kong: This entire episode was entirely unnecessary, flames fanned by distrust, misinformation and opportunism.
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TEN OBSERVATIONS
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1. Literally 99 percent of the protestors on Sunday were peaceful and non-violent. But unfortunately many of the remaining ones are openly looking for conflict. It’s a markedly different atmosphere.
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2. This is not to say that the remaining protestors are thugs. Many are just regular, likeable young people; a proportion are highly dangerous individuals.
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3. We talk about a “war zone” and it looks like that – but we need to keep perspective – we’re NOT talking bullets and bombs, but bricks, sticks, “bean-bag” projectiles and gas canisters. A number of protestors were carrying knives, masks, body armor, and sharpened sticks, which is worrying.
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4. The Hong Kong police are not monsters. The media write-ups and the clips circulating make it look like the police are initiating the violence (“Riot police fired tear gas and rubber bullets in downtown Hong Kong” is the angle taken by the vast proportion of Western media) but the truth is that they have been strictly briefed to not attack, only respond, and in general appear to be following that guideline. The astonishing bravery of unarmed young officers standing against terrifying mobs is a story no one is telling.
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5. The clips on Twitter and other social media have been chosen and edited to maximize anger. People who look at them need to be aware of this.
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6. None of the students to whom I spoke had read the proposed law or even had much interest in it! They had read on Twitter that it was all about them, and that was enough. I was baffled, but strangely found myself admiring their honesty. There was a oddly infectious joy about them – we have conquered our city, we rule the streets! Some seemed drunk on power: in psychological terms, it was fascinating.
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7. I also spent time yesterday with older Hong Kong Chinese families, discussing the situation. It was interesting that they shared a distrust of the mainland legal system—but they were all strongly in favor of the extradition law. The ones who had spent most time in China were the ones most strongly in favor of the law: that's very telling.
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8. On the pro-extradition side, I found a lot of people were frustrated that only one side of the story was being told. Numerous organizations, including the Hong Kong General Chamber of Commerce, by far the biggest business group in the city, is in favor of the new law, as are numerous other groups. Hong Kong’s leading legal expert on these matters, Albert Chen, is in favor, as are many of the top people at the Law Society—but they complain that only the negative lawyers are quoted by the press.
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9. What next? I’m quite sure there’s an untold story at the root of this, and reporters (me included) have utterly failed to find it. We need to work harder.
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10. My hope is that people will move away from the unhelpful black and white view of things and make more of an effort to build bridges and understand each other. But glancing at my Twitter feed this morning, exactly the opposite is happening.


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134#
發表於 19-6-17 14:39 |只看該作者

回覆樓主:

香港人有好多個心已經盲晒


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133#
發表於 19-6-17 14:32 |只看該作者
我一直都支持警察執法.見到太多人用難聽的說話鬧警察我覺得好心酸.
面對暴民,面對超時工作,警察壓力可想而知!但換來卻是這些人的仇視和痛恨!
憑什麽警察要做磨心?他們是保護我們的人,卻被大家萬般傷害.
到你有事的時候,第一時間也是找警察幫手呀?有這麼清高就有事都別打999!


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132#
發表於 19-6-17 14:23 |只看該作者
ChingYee123 發表於 19-6-16 23:20
我呢個POST唔係撐政府,係轉發外國記者既真實記錄咋!都係自由討論來的!
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事實同現在結果係令人氣餒,無諗過網軍可以咁多咁多去誤導抹口, 就連媽媽whatsapp group都有人可以send啲辱警嘅貼紙出嚟,自己個腦都不知所謂,會教個乜嘢仔出嚟!


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131#
發表於 19-6-17 14:15 |只看該作者

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呢位人兄fb都俾人批斗緊 liar 喎


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130#
發表於 19-6-17 13:51 |只看該作者
ChingYee123 發表於 19-6-16 22:43
轉發自香討:
「香港警察不是怪物」 一位外國記者的真實記錄 暴動背後的真相!
Nury Vittachi日前在Faceboo ...

推,等多d人睇下,我深信系有班人攪事


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129#
發表於 19-6-17 13:50 |只看該作者
任何犯法既都係香港公民,但都必須要制服,無得炒作悲情來轉移焦點!


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發表於 19-6-17 13:45 |只看該作者
[quote]bopomofo2405 發表於 19-6-17 13:38
睇下我嘅問題先[/quote
你不如理解我點解要轉貼呢個主題先啦,連主題目的都無法理解既人,有咩需要再不斷尋找其它問題鑽研落去?


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發表於 19-6-17 13:42 |只看該作者
就算 "示威人士" 挖磚頭唔係要來掟警察,呢個破壞公物既行為警察就已經可能拉你,你反抗還擊,警察就有權使用武力制服你,呢個就係大家必須要認知及守護既香港法治精神。唔理你係咪手無寸鐵或咩年輕學生!


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126#
發表於 19-6-17 13:38 |只看該作者
ChingYee123 發表於 19-6-17 13:36
我要回覆你乜野?我只係轉貼外國記者既所見所聞。至於佢係邊個時段既見聞,就另外一個問題了,而且衝突最激 ...
睇下我嘅問題先


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125#
發表於 19-6-17 13:36 |只看該作者
bopomofo2405 發表於 19-6-17 13:02
其實我等緊樓主你回應吓我,大家分享吓
我要回覆你乜野?我只係轉貼外國記者既所見所聞。至於佢係邊個時段既見聞,就另外一個問題了,而且衝突最激烈既時段,雙方衝擊就必然更激烈,武力既使用就會更升級,那自不然就會造成不可預測既傷害吧!

因此,個重點係引起衝突既 "示威人士" 並不是手無寸鐵,並且都係 "示威人士" 不守法衝擊警方防線,挑戰警方權力所引起的。

平常和平示威,警方有無無啦啦使用武力對付 "示威者" ?呢個先係最最最要既重點呀!


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發表於 19-6-17 13:02 |只看該作者
bopomofo2405 發表於 19-6-17 01:07
我剛剛好用心地看完了Nury Vittachi 的Facebook文章,佢於13/6早上十點左右發文。根據佢嘅文章,以下的fact ...
其實我等緊樓主你回應吓我,大家分享吓


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123#
發表於 19-6-17 11:08 |只看該作者
https://hk.mobi.yahoo.com/home/% ... 2%BC-214500699.html

美掀動反對派亂港 為貿戰爭政治籌碼


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122#
發表於 19-6-17 10:29 |只看該作者
事實有眼見,究竟係咪真手無寸鐡


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cutekiddy 發表於 19-6-17 00:53
人講記者報導你又信?

呢篇係以路人身份係facebook 發表,咁都算記者報導,香港最少有200萬人係記者。

佢的確係位journalist,同時亦係一位author,冇衝突。另外都想請教你喺我前一個留言,你點樣睇到我認同佢係記者?就算佢係你所講路人一個,有冇聽過咩叫自媒體?


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發表於 19-6-17 10:15 |只看該作者
提示: 作者被禁止或刪除 內容自動屏蔽


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119#
發表於 19-6-17 09:29 |只看該作者
lovehimhim 發表於 19-6-17 01:39
唔會睇,睇咗都唔會信,佢哋只會信想信嘅嘢

由佢地啦!我覺得係雙方都有問題


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發表於 19-6-17 09:24 |只看該作者
回覆 tibetlee13 的帖子

支持!!!


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117#
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回覆 tibetlee13 的帖子

支持警察用你尾爹標準執法!


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116#
發表於 19-6-17 09:22 |只看該作者
c6william 發表於 19-6-17 05:44
支持警方用國際標準執法

支持警察用你尾爹標準(即為國際標準)執法!




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