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珍珠宮

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1#
發表於 09-5-5 17:44 |只看該作者
bk版最偏激都應係呢道.
点解個個post都好似同dユ人有血
海深仇???
放鬆d
講到人哋セ貢獻都冇淨係識偷錢偷懶玩嘢.咁你做セ請佢?
問心你返工有冇偷懶發夢上bk?你自己都係咁,點解人哋係咁就係咁鬧,有d直頭係恥辱人….

你以為$4000 5000喺hk可以請到セ質素?睇吓而家d食蕉,再去下再培訓局請家務助理咪知囉.人哋收500一日,比較吓.

老實嗰句如果d外藉工人真係如此唔掂,唔會有幾十萬外傭.


我認同好多姐姐質素不好.但一分錢一分貨.你請個喺洒店做開清潔嘅咪有高級服務囉.但人ヱ唔該double.

好多仲係喺鄉下出嚟一舊反
你話佢哋dirty,因為佢哋家鄉就係咁dirty.亦冇衛生意識.大家background不同,知識層次更不同
如果永遠用香港人標準去評外傭,咁永遠都不會滿意

有冇諗過冇咗呢班人帮HK拾屋煮反看細路,有幾多人在職媽媽要放棄自己事業?


別墅

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124#
發表於 09-5-12 20:45 |只看該作者

回覆 8# DoReMi媽媽 的文章

最無辜係我哋,D 工人係出面借完錢,又冇錢還,又攪到我哋,又寄信打電話嚟騷擾我哋,炒佢,請個新又要"洗一筆",又要重新教個,適應個,稅又冇得減免。


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123#
發表於 09-5-12 18:51 |只看該作者
哇哇哇‥‥呢道幾時變左英文版‥
算啦‥各人觀點與角度唔同,又點可以講野係人都o岩聽呢?
其實樓主唔鐘意呢版真係可以唔黎睇,大部份新手((包括我))黎呢排都係想學野,覺得有用o既咪用囉,覺得唔o岩o既咪 see only囉‥
我都好感激呢道o既前輩,佢地o既分享真係幫左我好多,集思廣益嘛!做乜唔俾人講野o者???
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122#
發表於 09-5-12 17:09 |只看該作者
原帖由 beckypremium 於 09-5-12 14:26 發表
i was sweating when i see so many "feedback"
when i wrote my article some days ago, actually i just read a news about 2-3 HK ladies say on the newspaper they treat their helper like family, and they a ...


假設, 如果外國有間公司請你去打工, 佢地俾7倍人工俾你, 假設你而家收HK$10k一個月, 即係你打呢份工, 會有HK$70K一個月, 嘩, 慳慳地, 做多幾年都可以返嚟買間唔錯既屋, 同退休囉.

請問你會唔會俾心機做好呢份工? 盡量滿足老細既要求? 係香港我一定揾唔到咁多, 所以我會好努力... 定係, 發覺當地人收HK$70k都係好少錢, 我要同佢地本地人一樣, 收咁少錢, 只做好少野, 唔鐘意就發吓皮四? 等佢怕咗我?

收咗人錢, 野又唔做好d? 僱主上得嚟呻梗係激d啦, 唔通仲要講"唔該, 我而家要"調教"過你呀!"咁咩, 佢又睇唔到, 返到去又要堆起d笑容同佢講野, 又唔見佢俾d笑容我?

做人都要知足, d外傭收緊佢地本地差唔多7倍既人工, 但係有無做到7倍既工作? 佢地咁有性格咪唔好嚟香港捱囉, 留喺本土等運到啦.

咁我又算唔算好偏激?

[ 本帖最後由 KiuShaBB 於 09-5-12 17:31 編輯 ]


侯爵府

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121#
發表於 09-5-12 17:05 |只看該作者
原帖由 54heima 於 09-5-12 16:32 發表
長成甘...點睇...:-(
呢蕉叫做“鬥長氣”。好駛得!我英文有限…寫盡得幾句…所以係咁先!88!


水晶宮

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120#
發表於 09-5-12 16:32 |只看該作者
長成甘...點睇...:-(
少奶奶的身份,丫頭的命...


民房

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119#
發表於 09-5-12 14:26 |只看該作者

tks for the feedback

i was sweating when i see so many "feedback"
when i wrote my article some days ago, actually i just read a news about 2-3 HK ladies say on the newspaper they treat their helper like family, and they are very happy together!   this is actually a positive stories.   but in return, there is so much negative feedback from here regarding this news, like : why you treat the helper like family?  they are the helper, and you encourage them to be Boss now????
Ok, that is the reason why i say, pls stop to be so aggressive to the maid

anyway, i want to share some story as well:
i was employ more than 3 helper in the passing years, the first one, always cry and cry and not working as she should, always not happy, phone call w/friends, going out to market for hours...and so at the end, we stop the contract.
second one, i do not remember what is the problem, but sure its the dead end.
the last one,  she stolen our money, even copy our signature on the cheque and cash out the money.  i remember, she has to prepare dinner for 4 adult, so she make 4 pork chop, some fried vegetable, and this cost us $250 per meal!!!!!
all these experience, lost my confidence to hire anymore helper, i do not have times to control every mins.

we do not have any helper at home for more than 5 years, but we have hire the local helper to clean the house, that for sure, she is very good and reliable, since we are in the same culture, there is no need to explain what means "clean", since she is from here, she know very well.
finally we got the baby and we have to hire the helper, since i cannot afford to stay home 24 hours, for my work, and also i am not good mother, and i know its gonna be the new challenge again with the helper!

what i say about discrimination, check other post, some people say, they are all NOT good, they are all evil!   people colour all the helper to be BAD, this is what i means discrimination.

i agree about sitting on sofa issue, if you do not like them to sit on sofa, and this doesn't means u treat them as slave, i do not actually means not allow to sit on sofa the means slaving!!!  this is just a poor writing from me, i write that too fast, but these 2 things are not link together, i think, why they cannot sit on sofa anyway? ok, i understand now, its an issue from difference people, its up to you, not my business.
for the salary, i do not means that you pay 3-4K and what you expect? this is not what i means.  look on other side, when in HK, u hire a person who earn 3-4K, there is always the reason, either they are under-qualification, or they are lack of experience?   so my meaning is, you cannot expect these people are perfect!   n of course, they maybe far away from perfect, and its need a lot of tolerance and times to work out the better result!   means you have to teach and teach and teach!  i think this is why you have 2 years contract?  and yes, they may never really learn, if they are that good to learn, they do not need to be the helper anyway, right?
i agree some helper are evil, but not all of them.  they are suck, i agree that as well, but not all of them.   if on the first day, you already label them to be EVIL, they will always evil, since you do not give a chance.
as i say, i had bad experience with helpers as well, the one now i hire, she is not perfect, of course, she tell small lie (seems this is the hobby of them), she do not clean the place 100%!  but somehow i put everything in a balance, if she do not poison my child, she do not hit my child, and be loveful to my kids, then i will still be thank you.
for the hot water, yes, come on, hot water shower during winter, is that really so much to ask???
anyway, my last word is, i do not MEANS you all mom and dad are terrible to the helper!  i am talking about other who are extremely mean to the helper!   i say 80% of the article are discrimination,  where you know some of the commend  are written by same people on going, who like to say as the commend "yes, all these helper are bad!!" - i means these kind of people...

i do not want to be the HERO, but i think if you are always having problem with your helper, and everyday you go home, you will be angry or disappoint for any small or big thing, you will just end up with the unhappy life.

beside, for all the feedback, i am thankful, but the one who wish my maid can stay with my sick baby...this is really evil to say so.   when i write that on my first article, i give the good example, how much my helper care without sleep when my baby is sick, and this is the thing i put to balance to cover all her mistake in daily life!    see, this is positive story, why people like to turn that and use that to wish me such bad luck???      

anyway, i will not log in anymore, if you still think i am offending you, i am really sorry for your feeling, at least, i just wish you put thing in balance, being upset and disappoint all the times, wont make you happy.


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118#
發表於 09-5-8 22:02 |只看該作者
原帖由 quoquo 於 09-5-8 12:07 發表
Thanks all. I'm a student here. Learning from many of you, especial Ms Saiwanho & Poly姐. I have to say I 100% agree with "irene_the_pooh". 針而家未吉到你肉, 吾等於以後都吉吾到, 或者好快就到. 但係 ...


quoquo姐實在太客氣!!!

我的見識只是皮毛,所以屢戰屢敗!!!所以大家不要學我!


子爵府

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117#
發表於 09-5-8 19:17 |只看該作者
標題: 呢道dpost好偏激


邊個D post 最偏激
聰明嘅人一睇就知 >>>>>


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116#
發表於 09-5-8 19:11 |只看該作者
原帖由 pinkdoll 於 09-5-8 13:25 發表
唔駛喊 公道自在人心


人在造、天在看


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115#
發表於 09-5-8 19:10 |只看該作者
原帖由 pollyw 於 09-5-8 13:15 發表
唔好喊...齊齊過隔離聽金曲!


Thank you

http://forum.baby-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2137065&pid=33719696&page=75&extra=#pid33719696


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114#
發表於 09-5-8 18:55 |只看該作者
原帖由 beckypremium 於 09-5-7 16:38 發表
sorry i only can answer in english

i totally agree what you say.

i read times by times about the article here, the most crazy one is, some people ask : should we let the helper has hot shower during ...

Pls Hk people, relax, you of course can express yourself, and share your story, everywhere there is bad and good people, this is normal! but check more article here, 80% of the content is just so unfair to the helper, do not treat them as the slave please, beside, discrimination is always an big issue here in HK


I'm back without tears. I bet you never know what is discrimination.
Anyhow,
nothing wanna talk to those discrimined (isolated)themselves from the society particularly those childish, self-centered but self-admired ppl.


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113#
發表於 09-5-8 16:16 |只看該作者
呢道dpost好偏激

有頭髮, 邊個想做癩哩! 但當「你」遇著一個"好"工人時, 你寫既可能比我地仲激:;pppp:


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112#
發表於 09-5-8 13:25 |只看該作者
唔駛喊 公道自在人心

原帖由 bbfish1992 於 09-5-8 12:15 發表



You hurt me deeply!

Will get back to you for my story when I stop my tears....

Really wish your maid wouldn't ever betray you - stay 24 hr with your sick baby, ha ha!


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原帖由 bbfish1992 於 09-5-8 12:15 發表



You hurt me deeply!

Will get back to you for my story when I stop my tears....

Really wish your maid wouldn't ever betray you - stay 24 hr with your sick baby, ha ha!
唔好喊...齊齊過隔離聽金曲!


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110#
發表於 09-5-8 12:15 |只看該作者
原帖由 beckypremium 於 09-5-7 16:38 發表
sorry i only can answer in english

i totally agree what you say.

i read times by times about the article here, the most crazy one is, some people ask : should we let the helper has hot shower during ...



You hurt me deeply!

Will get back to you for my story when I stop my tears....

Really wish your maid wouldn't ever betray you - stay 24 hr with your sick baby, ha ha!


大宅

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109#
發表於 09-5-8 12:07 |只看該作者
Thanks all. I'm a student here. Learning from many of you, especial Ms Saiwanho & Poly姐. I have to say I 100% agree with "irene_the_pooh". 針而家未吉到你肉, 吾等於以後都吉吾到, 或者好快就到. 但係對於D無要求或阿Q 既人, 可能吉左都吾識叫痛.


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108#
發表於 09-5-8 11:44 |只看該作者
其實大家討論既論點好似有好大分別,我估其中一個最主要既原因係:針究竟吉到肉未?

到實講,o係香港我相信唔係真係好多人當佢工人係slave,或者唔係因為香港人好心地,而係怕死 --- 萬一比工人告咁點算呢?萬一個工人攪我個人質 (BB或老人家) 咁點算呢?萬一個工人比開心套餐 (漂白奶 + M菜) 我地食咁點算呢?所以大部份都係隻眼開隻眼閉。呢度好多媽媽都會講「我都知個工人會偷懶,但佢做得晒屋企野都算啦」、「我都知個工人打斧頭,但唔係多都算啦」之類!

每個人對幾時可以「算數」幾時唔可以「算數」既價值唔同,但幾時會知道自己既底線,就係當你「親身經歷」到既時候。


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107#
發表於 09-5-8 11:37 |只看該作者
我肯咁做既就唔揀我個大老細啦, 係都要個再有錢d啦. but我大老細都有度可取之處..................貪佢夠老, 快d死, 可以分佢身家.

原帖由 irene_the_pooh 於 09-5-8 11:29 發表


有個方法你既可以坐老細張「鄧」,又可以分佢老婆家用呀 --- 就佢坐埋佢大脾呀!


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106#
發表於 09-5-8 11:29 |只看該作者
原帖由 happypiano 於 09-5-8 09:35 發表
睇完呢個topic, 若講緊僱主唔俾工人坐埋一齊係sofa睇電視係歧視, 當工人係slave, 咁我係咪應該而家就去平機會/勞工處到投訴我老細歧視我, 當我係奴隸呀??

點解我被我老細歧視緊, 我都唔覺既?? 莫非我有問題?? 我只 ...


有個方法你既可以坐老細張「鄧」,又可以分佢老婆家用呀 --- 就佢坐埋佢大脾呀!

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