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發表於 09-12-17 01:52 |只看該作者
大家認為越早雙語發展越好還是遲d先好(因怕語言混淆)?

比d意見吧
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發表於 10-2-2 23:48 |只看該作者
hello
i want to share my experience as well as seek advice from all of you here.

my home speaks english becasue my wife isn't a local nor native english speaker also. so we speak english to my son since he was born.

he is 2.5 years old now but he still talk english in single or double words mode only like "eat, drink, hurt, dirty hand, wash etc..." he still can't talk english in a proper sentence yet. when he was 2 yr old, we decided to put him to k1 international stream becox we tot it would help him or better establish his english as base language but it didnt turn out to be the ideal case.

i m kind of worry now becox i know kid at his age (if cantonese speaker) already could express or speak in proper cantonese phases or sentences. should i start to teach or switch to talk to him in cantonese instead? this coming Sept he will be in N1 and i have already enrolled him for a typical english and chinese class only. With his current english and chinese language abilities, i m very worry he can't cope with the new enironment at school.

Still have some half years to go,,, what should i do now to help him to catch up either his english or cantonese? any advice will be greatly appreciated
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原帖由 rose-mag 於 10-1-5 06:24 發表
Confusion in the beginning is normal and bilingual kids always talk later develop language slower than those only handle one single language. But, it is not absolute to every kid. I live in US and my ...


totally agree with you, that is why we don't plan on letting him learn more than Cantonese and English at this stage. If no one is going to practice with him, no means letting him learn more than that and giving him extra burden.

Same as adult, if they are not going to use that language in their daily life, they will just forget about it later in life, so why giving the little ones extra burden when they should be what kids should be, enjoy and play around all the time when they don't have to worry about a single thing in life?

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發表於 10-1-5 11:45 |只看該作者
我只提供Wxxld Fxxily的DVD (因為洗幾萬買0左), 每日少於15分鐘。但每天不停播Music......

原帖由 fafac9 於 10-1-2 14:43 發表
請問15分鐘的時間會不會少了一點呢?
請問你是如何調整小朋友看電視的時間呢?
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發表於 10-1-5 10:33 |只看該作者
我想問一下, 你個bb同daddy係咪講英文? 只係講英文?

我都信如果一個大人只用一種語言同個bb溝通, bb會識得用番0個種語言答大人... 睇過有d書都係咁講

原帖由 snack 於 09-12-28 11:59 發表
小b而家識自已"translate", 如佢想daddy幫佢開盒, 佢會講daddy opens, 如佢想叫姐姐幫(印尼姐姐講中文), 佢會話"姐姐開"

小b自已會識分同邊個講邊種話!我初初都覺得好出奇嫁!!!

...
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發表於 10-1-5 08:49 |只看該作者
原帖由 rose-mag 於 10-1-5 06:24 發表
Confusion in the beginning is normal and bilingual kids always talk later develop language slower than those only handle one single language. But, it is not absolute to every kid. I live in US and my ...


good points!
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發表於 10-1-5 06:24 |只看該作者
Confusion in the beginning is normal and bilingual kids always talk later develop language slower than those only handle one single language. But, it is not absolute to every kid. I live in US and my husband knows little Cantonese. So, my husband talks to my kids in English and I talk to them in Cantonese. The key is consistence. Our pediatric doctor told us that if one person communicates with them in one language, the kids can learn even though it may slows down their development. Do not use mixed language. Before my son went to daycare, he talked purely Cantonese. Now, he's more towards to English as all the kids and teachers in school speak in English.

My daughter speaks good English and Cantonese. She started talking early and I believe that it's because girl usually develop language skills earlier than boy and she has a sibling to copy. To raise a bilingual kid is not easy, I'm just at the beginning. I have seen some kids good at 2+ languages but lost the 2nd or 3rd language when they grow up, either they have not used it regularly or just been distracted on other interesting things. So, even though kids have good start on learning 2 languages, it matters if they can keep up with both.
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發表於 10-1-2 14:43 |只看該作者
請問15分鐘的時間會不會少了一點呢?
請問你是如何調整小朋友看電視的時間呢?

原帖由 五月MaMa 於 09-12-17 15:52 發表
您一起步巳經行錯了，小孩子在6歲前每天不應該看電視或VCD多於15分鐘。如果他們從小便有那麼多色彩的影像激腦部及眼部, 他們會對書本失去興趣。另外, 因為是單向接收而不是互動, 所以會影響他們的語文能力。其實所有幼 ...
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發表於 09-12-31 18:10 |只看該作者
No problem 啦，The key is develop in mother language. English is his mother langauge.

原帖由 Julichi 於 09-12-31 13:12 發表
冇辦法啦~daddy唔識講中文,想佢學中文先都唔得~我唔可以叫daddy等佢學好中文先同佢講英文架嗎...所以就順其自然,比佢學好個英文做佢mother tongue囉~希望佢大個D中文都ok啦~

...
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發表於 09-12-31 13:12 |只看該作者
冇辦法啦~daddy唔識講中文,想佢學中文先都唔得~我唔可以叫daddy等佢學好中文先同佢講英文架嗎...所以就順其自然,比佢學好個英文做佢mother tongue囉~希望佢大個D中文都ok啦~

原帖由 preciousstone 於 09-12-29 14:27 發表
我是做人力資源管理的，看過過千人的會考Cert, 可以話比你地知，99%的人如果中文好，英文都會好，因為無論是哪種語言，學習的方法都是一樣。所以，我buy香港教育制度傳統的一套，先學好mother langauge, 才學其他語言。我個女四歲 ...
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發表於 09-12-29 15:25 |只看該作者
我说说我知道的：我BB09年7月在玛丽出世。
我同老公都是大陆人，现在香港生活工作，英文是第二语言，粤语是来香港后学的，算是第三语言。

我打算在家和BB讲普通话，将来会送她去本地英文学校，她在学校会和本地同学学讲粤语了。

我在玛丽生BB时侯，认识一个妈妈，有4个儿子，她本人祖籍广东，她很小的时侯去了台湾，然后再去法国留学，老公是法国人。所以她会讲普通话、粤语、法语和英文，我向她请教，怎么训练孩子的多种语言，她说她的几个孩子都正上苏浙，都会讲中文（普通话）。她说，据她判断，中文在所有语文中是最难学的，所以先学中文先。然后再学英语法语，本来她老公在家讲法文的。

所以，我就打算在家和BB完全讲普通话（虽然我也能讲英文和粤语），不然会让她很混乱，反而阻碍她语言能力的正常发展。
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發表於 09-12-29 14:27 |只看該作者
我是做人力資源管理的，看過過千人的會考Cert, 可以話比你地知，99%的人如果中文好，英文都會好，因為無論是哪種語言，學習的方法都是一樣。所以，我buy香港教育制度傳統的一套，先學好mother langauge, 才學其他語言。我個女四歲幾，中文表達能力一流，但英文比同學仔差，不過，我有信心如果她的中文好，將來英文也會好。我認為以mother language 訓練表達能力及掌握能力會比較好，而這兩種能力，無論將來讀書(中學及之後)或工作，都是很重要的。現在許多人在BB時已有多語言訓練，無錯，是學得快些，但不代表語言能力高，上到中學就現形了。
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發表於 09-12-28 11:59 |只看該作者
小b而家識自已"translate", 如佢想daddy幫佢開盒, 佢會講daddy opens, 如佢想叫姐姐幫(印尼姐姐講中文), 佢會話"姐姐開"

小b自已會識分同邊個講邊種話!我初初都覺得好出奇嫁!!!

原帖由 Julichi 於 09-12-24 12:46 發表
哈哈,我比較result-oriented. 我個人覺得,如果train佢bilingual係work既,咁我又唔mind佢比其他bb遲少少講野喎~咁大家都係想bb叻D,如果佢叻D就要遲人地D bb少少講野,咁我又覺得冇所謂喎~

我認同莎莎莉莉講,最重要唔 ...
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發表於 09-12-24 12:46 |只看該作者
哈哈,我比較result-oriented. 我個人覺得,如果train佢bilingual係work既,咁我又唔mind佢比其他bb遲少少講野喎~咁大家都係想bb叻D,如果佢叻D就要遲人地D bb少少講野,咁我又覺得冇所謂喎~

我認同莎莎莉莉講,最重要唔係佢遲一話早講野,最重要係作為父母既可唔可以handle到bilingual咁教個bb.如果自己係handle唔到,又話者個生活環境係唔容許你咁做的話,又為咩要強行呢?咁咪棧令到個bb唔好,咁咪同一開始要train佢bilingial既原因相反咗囉~

我自己就同bb講英文,因為daddy唔識講中文,我又唔想係我同bb講野同埋教佢果時ignore咗daddy,令到佢唔知我同bb講咩,所以就連我都同佢講英文.但係始終呢度係香港,唔可以比bb全英文,一D中文都唔接觸,所以佢就變咗bilingual喇...始終我唔可以唔比其他人同佢講中文~所以我就由得佢順其自然啦~
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發表於 09-12-20 14:24 |只看該作者
我就唔多buy雙語, 因為好易混淆, 小朋友要先掌握一套幫助佢思維的語言先, 呢套一定係佢既母語.

如果有心想小朋友做英文人, 就細細個將佢既母語變成英文啦.

我公司有個同事, 大陸人, 人人覺得佢母語係普通話, 但其實佢話由細到大佢都係讀國際學校, 所以英文先係佢母語. 普通話佢反而只係識講, 同唔算好精. 佢諗野做野, 都係用英文.

我自問無呢個本事變個仔的母語為英文. 所以, 佢由細到大, 我都係主力訓練佢既母語~~中文的理解和表達能力, 我覺得咁做係啱的.

到依家, 佢四歲, 家中出現了一個同佢講英文的菲傭, 個仔識得每次都問我呢句英文點講, 果句英文點解, 利用佢運用母語的能力, 轉化為英文, learn English as a second language, 就係要係咁. 也比較切合我的生活情況.
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發表於 09-12-18 14:18 |只看該作者
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文章日期：2009年12月6日

【明報專訊】兒子英語了得，鄧藹霖並沒有驚天地的培育秘方，所說的方法雖然都屬老生常談，但這也足證學好語言沒有捷徑的真理。

鄧藹霖說，兒子12歲時才知道患有中文讀寫障礙，看中文字像看一幅幅圖畫，但5歲時已發現他在英語方面有天分，只要聽到發音便能把字串出來。她說沒有在英語上刻意培育，甚至沒有逼過他串字。

兒子由9個月大開始看英語卡通VCD，每天播放1至2個小時，同一部卡通片每天看3次。此外，看書是學好英語的重要一環，她家有3000多本書，兒子10個月大時，她已給他看兒童百科全書，讓他翻翻書頁、指指書本。他們也習慣帶兒子逛書局，讓看書成為人生的一部分。

重提升創意 鼓勵孩子任意發揮

學習過程中，鄧藹霖也重視提升創意。「由他們3歲開始，我已叫他們要畫一些別人畫不到的東西。」作文亦如是，她鼓勵孩子任意發揮，從不限制創作。Conrad讀四年班時，曾利用擬人法，描述小雨點在地球上的旅程，結果拿了A。

鄧藹霖也認為，別將90%的時間和精力來惡補弱項，那只會覺得痛苦，放在強項和弱項上的時間應該平衡才對。

「學習是靠自己的，父母只是在旁扶持。」鄧說。Conrad則謂，學好英文的秘訣是多看書，他最愛David Sedaris和J.D. Salinger的作品。平日他會把生字和特別的用詞記在電腦中。讀國際學校期間，要用英語跟同學攀談，又差不多天天也要寫作，這也提供了聽說讀寫的環境。

「在孩子的成長路上，有100條路可以走的。」鄧藹霖說。
http://forum.baby-kingdom.com/thread-2810086-1-1.html
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發表於 09-12-18 13:59 |只看該作者
如果俾bb返英文幼稚園或國際學校, 係咪真係會幫到bb學英文呢? 屋企除咗我之外, 冇人可以同bb講英文的. 但我都是在職媽媽, 返到屋企食完飯, 最多只得1-2個鐘陪佢, 佢就要瞓覺.
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發表於 09-12-18 09:52 |只看該作者
I want to say there are different ways to raise / educate your child. Since most of the couple in HK right now only got one child. Everything is in a test basis. Method 1 works for your kid but might not work on mind. Anyways, I’m just sharing my experience and I think there are no right or wrong. One thing I do agree 5月媽媽 say ”所有幼兒教材, 基本要求是必定有家長或懂使用教材的人仕陪同小孩玩。” and since I’m a working mother, I can’t afford to be with my kid all the time. So, I had to find the other way to educate my child. But something I want to clarify, I didn’t let my son to watch the TV all the time. He only got 15-30mins when he below 1 (since most of time he’s eating or sleeping). And he goes to nursery when he’s 2 and now he’s studying in a full day kindergarten, so actually, he didn’t had much time to watch TV.
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發表於 09-12-18 08:15 |只看該作者
I think they would confuse. My 2 year old boy start talking in "human language" a little later than those kids that only deal with one language.

In my case, we live in US. We talk in Cantonese at home, but most of the TV kid educational program we let him watch (not too much, but still have about 10-15 minutes a day) are in English. When other HK BK mom said their kid already talking, my son still talking to me in baby language. He is very talkative now ... in Cantonese sentence, but with lot of word in English. I think he has no problem to understand Cantonese, but only 80% of English coz he is not going to school and deal with English speaking people too much yet.
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