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發表於 11-11-24 23:32 |只看該作者
方順生(陳方安生的弟弟)撰文 Brat in the family 談家事、國事--讀後深感:方召麟如仍健在,會如何看待陳方安生?!


方順生Philip, Fang Shun Sang--陳方安生的弟弟

South China Morning Post刊出文章Brat in the family


有人翻譯放上內地「天涯」網,天涯所據的可能才是英文原文對比之下SCPM有刪削,只是節錄。兩英、一中版全附上。

!歡迎四傳,千萬別錯過詳細版!

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The writer of this article, Philip, Fang Shun Sang joined the United Nation Secretariat in New York as a simultaneous interpreter in 1971, the same year the UN General Assembly voted overwhelmingly to restore the lawful rights of the Peoples Republic of China in the United Nations. In 1979 he was transferred to the United Nations Office in Geneva UNOG, where he served for the next 20 years as a Senior Interpreter and the Chief of the Chinese Interpretation Section. In 1999, he took early retirement in order to help his Mother Fang Zhaolin, the famed grandmaster Chinese artist to prepare for her legacy.

本文作者方順生1971年加入聯合國紐約秘書處,擔任同聲傳譯工作。同年,聯大以絕大多數票通過恢復中華人民共和國在聯合國的合法席位。1979年被派往聯合國日內瓦辦公處(UNOG)。他是資深傳譯兼中文傳譯科科長,在日內瓦服務二十年,於1999年從聯合國提前退休,準備全時間幫助母親國畫大師方召麟女士完成遺志。
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http://www.scmp.com/portal/site/SCMP/menuitem.2af62ecb329d3d7733492d9253a0a0a0/?vgnextoid=a659bddd01383310VgnVCM100000360a0a0aRCRD&ss=Hong+Kong&s=News
Brat in the family
Philip Fang denounces the ingratitude displayed by some Hongkongers who enjoy the prosperity powered by their home country's boom but continue to deny Beijing the loyalty and trust that is rightfully due
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Nov 09, 2011
Wang Guangya , head of the Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office, has let it be known that the No 1 criterion in the selection of the next chief executive would be patriotism.

Patriotism presupposes loyalty and trust - the bricks and mortar of all lasting human relations. Are Hong Kong people patriotic? The answer is an emphatic "no". Generally, Hong Kong Chinese have no idea of their national identity and heritage, and are loath to identify with their brethren on the mainland. They would rather identify themselves with Taiwanese Chinese, Singaporean Chinese, Australian Chinese and American Chinese. They think they are superior. The mindset that fosters this superiority complex is no mystery; Hong Kong people worship money, power and celebrity. Hong Kong creates no true wealth. It indulges in the culture of money making money.

Back in the 1980s, Hong Kong wages rocketed and production moved across the border. Hong Kong has since been reduced to a service-based economy. Its limited terrain has become its new wealth generator. Today, over 70 per cent of Hong Kong's market capitalisation comes from property and related activities; Hong Kong is one of the most expensive places to live in the world today. This social polarisation has moved the city dangerously close to the red-light signal on the United Nations index measuring social upheaval in the wake of income disparity.

The central government must have confidence that the chief executive can keep things under control in Hong Kong. Normally, the interest of the overwhelming majority of 1.3billion Chinese should have priority but, in the case of Hong Kong, the reverse is true.

Beijing has given Hong Kong people carte blanche to run their own affairs. Hong Kong pays no taxes to the central government, which also picks up the bill for the People's Liberation Army, which ensures the special administrative region's security. Hong Kong's level of taxation is very low compared with other similar economies. Yet, mainland China's "tax pain" ranked second in the world in 2009, according to Forbes. Vice-Premier Li Keqiang , during his recent visit, said Beijing had picked Hong Kong to be China's future centre for overseas renminbi trading. Hong Kong last year ranked third in the world as a recipient of foreign direct investment, according to a UN report, a mesmerising performance considering the SAR's size.

All these good things have happened to Hong Kong and its people because of one reason - their country, China. Hong Kong should ask itself this: "My country has done so much for me, what have I done for it in return?" It's time for the people of Hong Kong to ask themselves whether they have lived up to the expectations of the central government. The way things stand, they have let Beijing down badly. Hongkongers have behaved like spoiled brats cosseted with gifts, perquisites and privileges. Instead of showing their gratitude and appreciation, they have turned on their own country.

Chief Executive Donald Tsang Yam-kuen was right to condemn the recent acts of hooliganism under the guise of free speech and assembly in the Legislative Council. Hong Kong today seems to be used to lawlessness and anarchy. The law must be upheld and the authorities must not go soft on people who take the law into their own hands.

The open defiance of the "Gang of Four" - Anson Chan Fang On-san, Martin Lee Chu-ming, Jimmy Lai Chee-ying and Cardinal Joseph Zen Ze-kiun - and the Civic Party, headed by Audrey Eu Yuet-mee, only points to the urgency for the government and Legco to push through Article 23, under which many of their acts would be considered as endangering state security, that is, sedition. People must be made to understand they are Chinese citizens and subject to Chinese laws and sanctions.

Western precepts of democracy and human rights cannot be applied directly to a country the size of China, which for centuries has evolved around Confucian ethics. In the selection of national development models and priorities, China has always maintained an aloofness from the West. Equanimity and self-reliance have been its hallmark. In money management, the central bank has favoured a conservative and cautious policy. This has enabled China to stay clear of the economic meltdown.

The recent downgrading of the ratings of the US and some euro zone nations shattered the myth that the US Federal Reserve and Wall Street knew better when it came to how to manage money. The world, and Europe in particular at present, is looking to China for help.

As part of a family with a patriotic background, listed as descendents of revolutionary martyrs, I sincerely hope the people of Hong Kong will take to heart the overall interest of their country and people, and ponder Hong Kong's own future.

Philip Fang Shun-sang worked for the United Nations as an interpreter and was chief of the Chinese interpretation section before retiring in 1999
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【解釋:「內地天涯網站」於2011年10月16日便貼出方順生文章,於是,SCMP的2011-11-9可能是後來節錄刊出。未知方文原刊出處。
即是,內地早便有人留意到方順生該文,並翻譯之。貼文者用的標題是:[评论随笔]历史著名爱国方氏家族第三代反思香港人对爱国的看法。 
該貼http://www.tianya.cn/publicforum/content/no05/1/213388.shtml


【批註:以下是比SCMP更多細節,寫來更有味道的版本。下文的中譯以此詳細的英文版為據。】


United Nation Secretariat in New York as a simultaneous interpreter in 1971, the same year the UN General Assembly voted overwhelmingly to restore the lawful rights of the People’s Republic of China in the United Nations. In 1979 he was transferred to the United Nations Office in Geneva UNOG, where he served for the next 20 years as a Senior Interpreter and the Chief of the Chinese Interpretation Section. In 1999, he took early retirement in order to help his Mother Fang Zhaolin, the famed grandmaster Chinese artist to prepare for her legacy.
  



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發表於 12-5-18 13:45 |只看該作者
oldcake 發表於 11-11-25 10:25
有人講: 當只有一個日本人, 一個中國人的時候, 中國人一定會贏日本人, 但當有二個日本人, 二個中國人的時 ...

這個道理通用於中國對其他國家.....
你諗下國內省與省之間都開大片....
兩個中國黑市工人到美加打工...
唔同省會出現亙篤既情況.....
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大宅

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發表於 12-5-18 03:24 |只看該作者
咁陳XX生愛國嗎?點解在港的人不幫助母親國畫大師方召麟女士完成遺志。還要遠方的弟弟來做呢???????真的樹大有枯枝,


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發表於 12-5-13 22:58 |只看該作者
thinkpanda 發表於 12-5-13 22:01
司徒華同司徒強政見都南轅北轍。余若薇同余若海雖係同業,但亦未必有共同理念。
唔知習遠平同習近平又如何 ...

阿大俠,乜連你唔知呀? 少有喎!


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發表於 12-5-13 22:01 |只看該作者
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公爵府

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發表於 12-5-13 20:15 |只看該作者
SandyKL 發表於 11-11-24 23:33
「天涯」中譯】

多謝分享好文章,完全講出我的心聲。


子爵府

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認識瑞士牛牛第一回


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發表於 12-5-13 17:31 |只看該作者
四人幫...真是好貼切


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發表於 12-5-13 17:25 |只看該作者

回覆:方順生(陳方安生的弟弟)撰文 Brat in the family 談家事、國

嘩!咁舊的post也搵到!真有心!




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發表於 12-5-13 17:14 |只看該作者
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子爵府

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發表於 11-11-30 23:16 |只看該作者
我未有時間詳細睇篇文,但講下民主的問題。中國行民主,表目前情況看,還需一段時間,或者須像台灣一樣,要痛苦一段時間。但香港行民主就不難,但是根本無可能靠"四人幫"去幫我們去爭取民主。他們根本就不是真心,他們只想維持現狀,這樣才有他們的生存價值,所以爭取民主還是靠自己好。
至於中國的問題,文章所指的儒家思想在中國早已名存實亡(當然,古時如果沒有儒家思想,根本不可能達成統一),但現在統治著中國的只是權力和畏懼。其實現在中國有些城市已經有思想的反彈,共產黨的危機正日漸擴大,但即使共產黨被推翻,對中國好處不大,因為推倒權力的也是權力,這個循環也會不變。我還記得毛澤東在野是經常罵國民黨不民主,不受認同。但上台後,做與國民黨一樣的事。所以中國人的經濟實力和潛力不容置疑,要進步的是人民的素質。


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發表於 11-11-30 13:27 |只看該作者
方順生係聯合國工作咁多年, 佢應該好前清楚知道中國係點樣俾西方強國看扁既情況下, 慢慢爭取應得既尊重, 同時佢亦睇到西方國家既人權, 民主, 係假仁假義
方家一向都生活係上流社會, 佢地唔明普通市民面對既生活壓力一d都唔出奇, 不過, 這個細佬出現, 原來佢先係"香港良心", 講出事實
淡淡的來, 好好的去 ....


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發表於 11-11-30 12:54 |只看該作者
真是一篇好文章!!! 多謝分享!!

估唔到佢同陳方安生既見解同睇法唔同!!!


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發表於 11-11-29 23:50 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 SandyKL 於 11-11-29 23:51 編輯

睇呢篇文章,發人深醒。方順生彷如醫生替香港診症一般,將香港嘅垢病明確地指出。


不過我又覺得需要還香港人一個公道,香港一般市民百姓係享
受大陸所施之恩時,同時亦在咬緊牙關去忍受大陸人所帶來之
文化差異,香港人現實冇錯,但不會因此而不認同國家及大陸
人,他們都富起來啦!為何香港人總排斥他們?




呢一點始終方順生冇深入去理解,可能佢所接觸俱是大陸高層,
所到之處都係類似半島酒店之地,佢唔知道香港人在忍甚麼。若
要得別人尊重,首先要自重,放在任何人或事上都必定對的。


其他方面,方順生都能將一個土生土長香港人心聲寫得淋漓盡
致,我想佢與我有同一感覺,係帶住心痛感覺去為香港寫呢一
篇文章,尤其寫到香港四人幫時。




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發表於 11-11-29 18:03 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 Carelesswhisper 於 11-11-29 18:05 編輯

謝謝分享! 好文章! 發人心醒! 值得思考!


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發表於 11-11-26 13:22 |只看該作者
快狠準 發表於 11-11-26 00:09
老實講 ,香港人層次愈來愈低,我唔相信可以走反轉頭。

其實層次不是低,只是得了富裕病和驕傲病
人一旦驕傲,便如盲了雙眼,很多事情不再看得清
少奶奶的身份,丫頭的命...


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發表於 11-11-26 00:09 |只看該作者

回覆:方順生(陳方安生的弟弟)撰文 Brat in the family 談家事、國

老實講 ,香港人層次愈來愈低,我唔相信可以走反轉頭。




珍珠宮

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發表於 11-11-25 21:41 |只看該作者
的確是好文章, 謝謝樓主的轉載! 大家可以試閱一下"On China":
http://ishare.iask.sina.com.cn/f/18308573.html?from=like


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發表於 11-11-25 20:02 |只看該作者
54heima 發表於 11-11-25 17:19
點解feeling both shame and pride呢

佢早幾日寫緊篇報告時剛巧比我見到呢句,我心中都有個問號, 但又唔想即時問佢阻住做功課。

我自己未睇過本書,我會睇咗先,可能答案係書裡面。



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I/LOVE/3T 發表於 11-11-25 10:58
我個仔已經睇完呢本 "On China" by Henry Kissinger, 仲寫咗一篇閱讀報告, 有以下一句 :

As a person w ...

點解feeling both shame and pride呢
少奶奶的身份,丫頭的命...

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