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Tabosharon

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各位，我是香港來澳洲的留學生，
來了10年多，3年前嫁了有pr的中國藉老公（廣西人），生第一個BB時我是TR，老公當時PR，BB已拿了澳洲護照(現在1歲9個月)，之后我拿到PR，生了第二個BB(現在2個月)，想回流香港至小朋友小學畢業，老公未有香港身份，我們兩個現在都是PR，兩個BB都是澳洲citizen
1) 甘12年後我和老公的PR會取消嗎？還是我先拿citizen好？老公要上中國工作，可能不能拿citizen，否則去中國好麻煩。
2) 至於老公同小朋友應用甚麽手續居港長住和讀書，可讀政府學校嗎？可得香港身份嗎？手續怎樣呢？
3) 同埋小朋友都是澳洲護照，怎樣在香港申請去幾天中國玩？之前我和老公想去中國玩，BB不批中國簽証，內容大概說我們沒有澳洲身份，只有pr居澳權。
p.s 我家人都在香港，老公是全家移民澳洲的廣西人
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本帖最後由 bosch 於 13-11-21 07:59 編輯

DLPapa 發表於 13-11-17 22:35
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Your case is not that complicated. Since you were NOT an Aus citizen when yo ...

呢個係你既實際經驗?

今時今日呢個方法應該行唔通, 有心隱暪仲可能會惹官非.

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本帖最後由 manman1018 於 13-11-18 08:30 編輯

DLPapa 發表於 13-11-17 22:35
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"Husband may choose to maintain as a Chinese national and travels on his Chinese passport (but I think he may also apply Oz citizenship, just dont tell the Chinese mainland immigration)."

"A Chinese national who has settled abroad and voluntarily applies for and acquires another country's nationality automatically forfeits Chinese nationality"------Hence , whether her husband choose to tell or not, he needs to apply a China Visa whenever he travels to China

"Hong Kong residents of Chinese nationality do not lose their Chinese nationality automatically upon acquiring foreign one(s)"-----It will not affect her, only need to apply 回鄉咭 if she hasn't got one

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Your case is not that complicated. Since you were NOT an Aus citizen when your cihildren were born, your children are eligible for the right of abode in HK and may apply for HKSAR passports. HKSAR immigration will not care if you are having dual nationality or not (unless you are silly enough to tell them!).
You should apply Oz citizenship and so that you and your kids travel in and out Australia on the Aus passport. Husband may choose to maintain as a Chinese national and travels on his Chinese passport (but I think he may also apply Oz citizenship, just dont tell the Chinese mainland immigration).
When you & kids arrive at HK, use your IDs/HKSAR passport for minors to come in and out.
Once in HK, apply for the "Hui Heung Card" for yourself and your kids (again DONT mention you are Oz citizens!)
Husband may come to HK using his Oz passport. If he decides not to get Oz Citizenship, he may come using his Chinese passport, but not sure if he needs a visa for HK (issued by the Chinese Embassy).

As mentioned by others, dfferent ppl may get different results upon applying HKSAR passport, even they share same scenario (yes it is pathetic!) and for "Hui Heung Card" it is even more pathetic, and you may get different answers from different offces and from different officers!!!

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Anyway my son got both id and passport . And it\'s grant by government

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Yes, referring to point C , they can apply ID card

Under the Immigration Ordinance, six categories of people are eligible to enjoy the right of abode in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (HKSAR). Besides, a person fulfills the transitional arrangement under the same Ordinance is also eligible to enjoy the right of abode. Here you can learn about whether you fall into one of those categories, the transitional arrangements and where to go for further information.

Categories of Eligibility Under the Immigration Ordinance, if you belong to one of the following categories you are a permanent resident of the HKSAR and enjoy the right of abode.
Chinese Citizens

(a)	A Chinese citizen born in Hong Kong before or after the establishment of the HKSAR
(b)	A Chinese citizen who has ordinarily resided in Hong Kong for a continuous period of not less than seven years before or after the establishment of the HKSAR.
(c)	A person of Chinese nationality born outside Hong Kong before or after the establishment of the HKSAR to a parent who, at the time of birth of that person, was a Chinese citizen falling within category (a) or (b). The person’s right of abode by virtue of being a permanent resident of the HKSAR under category (c) can only be exercised upon the establishment of his or her status as a permanent resident by his or her holding of a valid travel document issued to him or her and a valid Certificate of Entitlement also issued to him or her and affixed to the travel document; a valid HKSAR passport issued to him or her; or a valid permanent identity card issued to him or her.

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manman1018

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I believe the easiest way is to ask the IMMI in HK and everything will be clear , right ????

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我仔出世時我係au citizen . 老公tr. 我仔拿咗Hk 永久id &hKSar passport.

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jump.jump 發表於 13-11-17 13:53
樓主生大B時只係 OZ TR，佢本身係香港人，自然可以 APPLY HK PR

Yes, just PR, but cannot apply HKSAR passport & HKID

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manman1018 發表於 13-11-17 11:56
大b可以拿特區護照 ???? you sure ??? Not PR only ?

Summary - Born outside Hong Kong, can I get ...

樓主生大B時只係 OZ TR，佢本身係香港人，自然可以 APPLY HK PR

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本帖最後由 manman1018 於 13-11-17 12:17 編輯

connie92 發表於 13-11-17 11:44
你大b可以拿特區護照，香港id 返香港申請回鄉卡。你同你大仔可以用回鄉卡返大陸。你老公係PR中國籍，一定返 ...

大b可以拿特區護照 ???? you sure ??? Not PR only ?

Summary - Born outside Hong Kong, can I get ROA and a HKID? This topic is very long and tedious, here is a brief summary of who can have right of abode automatically in Hong Kong by birth outside Hong Kong, if you are at least one of the following:

You are a Chinese citizen (that is a citizen of the People's Republic of China) born to a parent who is a Chinese citizen born in Hong Kong, or to a parent that is a Chinese citizen who has lived 7 years in Hong Kong and obtained ROA before your birth. Whether you were born a Chinese citizen, depends on other factors that will be explained later in this document.
You were born between January 1, 1983 and June 30, 1997 and were a British Dependent Territories Citizen associated with Hong Kong, i.e. one that was born to a parent that was a BDTC born in Hong Kong, or to a BDTC that naturalized as a British subject in Hong Kong before your birth. The BDTC parent can either be the mother or legitimate father.
You were born before January 1, 1983 and at your birth were a Hong Kong Belonger. A Hong Kong Belonger is a British subject with a close connection to Hong Kong. If you were born before 1983 and you were a Citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (CUKC) or a Commonwealth citizen, you were a British subject.

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回覆：我既case幾複雜，好煩

你大b可以拿特區護照，香港id 返香港申請回鄉卡。你同你大仔可以用回鄉卡返大陸。你老公係PR中國籍，一定返到去。細個b咪中國領士管申請中國visa ，跟爸爸返去，點解唔批！如果想回流香港。你同老公最好拿citizen 先。然後你老公同細b申請受養人visa.讀書，大b拿到id,讀書無問題，細b就唔清楚啦！應該ok 嘅

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Tabosharon 發表於 13-11-17 09:35
中旅社試過吾得，叫我地去灣仔澳洲領事館，一層員工叫我地搞回鄉咭，但BB澳洲出世，一層話我地都是pr，even ...

your children were born in Oz, they have 澳洲身份, they are not eligible to apply 回鄉咭. Hence you have to do is apply China visitor visa for them with evidence of RT Air Tickets + Hotel Reservation. Does you hubby has any relatives in China ?? If Yes, ask his relatives write an invitation to your hubby, saying that they would like to meet you guys in China (visit purpose only + Air Ticket etc)

Australian birth certificate: evidence of citizenship
An Australian birth certificate can establish citizenship, as long as it is:

A full birth certificate showing birth in Australia prior to 20 August 1986 unless one parent was a diplomat at the time of the applicant’s birth; or
A full birth certificate showing birth in Australia on or after 20 August 1986 plus evidence that at least one parent was either an Australian citizen or a permanent resident of Australia at the time of the applicant’s birth; or
A full birth certificate showing birth in Australia on or after 20 August 1986 plus an Australian passport issued on or after 1 January 2000 with at least two years validity.

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Tabosharon

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回覆：我既case幾複雜，好煩

中旅社試過吾得，叫我地去灣仔澳洲領事館，一層員工叫我地搞回鄉咭，但BB澳洲出世，一層話我地都是pr，even BB 拎AUS PASSPORT都話我地無澳洲身份，吾批中國簽証，到最後番吾到中國
我有香港身份證，但我老公無，小朋友在香港政府學校讀書就不可以？

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本帖最後由 manman1018 於 13-11-17 09:13 編輯

Tabosharon 發表於 13-11-17 01:21
各位，我是香港來澳洲的留學生，
來了10年多，3年前嫁了有pr的中國藉老公（廣西人），生第一個BB時我是TR， ...

First of all, You have been holding your PR visa for more than 4 years, I suggest you better apply an Oz citizenship. And your husband, China doesn't allow Dual Nationality, he may choose not to be a citizen in Oz .( Your Children can ONLY be a PR in HK. If they want to get an HKID, they must live in HK for 7 years. Hence, I'm afraid they can't educate in public schools in HK)
**I doubt why you won't rather let them educate in Oz**

Please refer to to the link below
A Guide to the Right of Abode in Hong Konghttp://www.sm128c.com/hk/

You can get the China Visa at China Travel Service (中旅社) or from one of the travel agencies in HK (你係香港人冇理由吾知)
http://www.ctshk.com/zhengjian/china.htm

"之前我和老公想去中國玩，BB不批中國簽証，內容大概說我們沒有澳洲身份，只有pr居澳權。"
You applied the visa in Oz or HK ???

You and youe husband DO NOT NEED TO APPLY A CHINA VISA as you have 回鄕咭 & he still holding China Nationality
However for your children, they are Oz citizen by birth , they need to apply a China Visa