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原帖由 酸棗仁 於 09-4-6 01:08 發表
其實, 有冇人可以整理一下, 各個負面的回覆的論點呢? 點解咁多都是負面的呢?

樓主是咪真係教緊仔女, 定害緊仔女呢?

本人就好不滿樓主的自以為是, 同埋以為自己高人一等! ...
高人一等藍血人


王國長老

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242#
發表於 09-4-6 02:06 |只看該作者
原帖由 酸棗仁 於 09-4-6 00:54 發表
我諗緊, 如果, 我用架48"的車, 載住個有手有腳, 識行識走的小朋友, 咁會點呢?

再唔係的, 用54"車都得的喎!


你架車入唔到閘喎
            


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243#
發表於 09-4-6 02:27 |只看該作者
我都好耐冇回應~
呢個post追左我成個幾鐘~
其實我想問"lift係畀有需要嘅人仕(傷殘,高齡,攞住大型行理同推bb車嘅人)優先使用"呢個公民意識有幾多人識?!唔係你排隊就有權搭!係應該見到有需要人士使用時比有需要人士使用先~但係有幾多人識?!
我同意有媽咪話身教好重要!我地教好我地下一代好緊要!!
我曾經試過有個阿婆企係我前面,前面有5-6個人左右,到lift門開d人都冇意識比阿婆行先,我好大聲話請讓有需要人士使用~果d人唔出聲,即係理虧la!又或者d人唔識字la!!
講真,會出聲既人又有幾多?!
我再想講公主病呢個問題!
我quote某會員既回應~
"通常公主病既女仔, 係細個驕生慣養, 父母有少少錢但無好好教育, 個女見到物講乜, 家長唔教育佢地, 仲放任小朋友, 於是大左就唔理人感受, 好主觀咁講野, 不懂遷就和體諒."
我覺得係呢個topic都搵到有呢個病既人~係邊個?!我廢事講la!我唔係想要撩交嗌~不過大家都唔好對號入座!!
我唔知係咪有人冇成個topic睇晒~點解會覺得講全英語就係晒命?!奇怪?!
我一直冇覺得樓主係岩定唔岩,不過我覺得佢睇到大家咁既回應都可以平心靜氣~哈哈哈~比我就發左火好耐~(莫非我有公主病?!)
我覺得小朋友發問係冇問題ga!我都教我女係車箱食野係唔岩,佢見到有人食野,都會問我點解佢食野?!我會直接答我女,人地咁做係唔岩,我地唔好學佢咪ok ~ 我覺得可以當做反面教材~
我媽咪話,冇野係對同錯,只係觀點與各度不同~大家都可以發表唔同意見!但係唔係需要罵戰law!
wow~~打左咁大篇~謝謝收看啊!!


複式洋房

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244#
發表於 09-4-6 02:35 |只看該作者
原帖由 echoo 於 09-4-4 00:51 發表
1. 唔係好明你對個女嘅教導係咩, 係話人selfish? 有咩好驕傲呢? 識請英文? 恕我多口, 教小朋友當面話人唔係幾有禮貌, 就算人地真係唔岩都係咁話.

2. 你先生搭電梯無咩問題啊, 佢都係健全人仕.

3. 我仔仔二歲巳經無 ...


我非常同意此位mama的睇法,講真推bb車唔係大哂,冇理由要所有人讓.,除非有特殊情況.


大宅

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245#
發表於 09-4-6 02:44 |只看該作者
原帖由 sonic04 於 09-4-5 13:13 發表
我真係無心機追曬啲post

但我都有嘢話比樓主知

樓主果位今你引以為傲的千金

下次【教訓】人家時

都要注重自己的人身安全

你知啦

香港人而家都變得野蠻

人一把(星)你果位千金度

之後走咗去

你可以做乜呢?? ...


係都(星)個大架啦, 你睇番對白, 係個大既主動引導個細既去寸人, 又或者咁講, 係個大既擺個細既上檯去寸人.


男爵府

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246#
發表於 09-4-6 04:11 |只看該作者
首先講講我無睇哂全部replies,我凈係睇咗第1個post,同埋我對上幾段replies.

點解會有人會攻擊樓主有咩問題呢? 我覺得佢做得唔錯喎。搭唔搭到lift都好,佢話同女女討論果d人同佢地爭lift搭係quite quite selfish無錯架喎,佢亦都係灌輸緊佢女女大個唔好咁自私同有需要人仕爭用設施啫 ... 我本人,亦有向我個2歲bb讀出"請優先讓有需要人仕使用"

有部分搭客係見暈呀膝頭痛呀,啊,咁係唔係全部每日一個箭步去搶lift果d都係有事呢? 我肯定大部份唔係!!
有膝痛嘅朋友唔好唔開心覺得人地教細路話要俾"有需要人仕"先使用係話緊你,你都有需要,咁咪唔係話你囉~


我大BB出世之後,我多數時候都係Sling住佢,我唔鍾意去等lift,因為總係要等第2輪嘅(起碼); 等第2輪,凈低仲要等,好多時會傾2句計,我地等第2輪果D,先係真係需要用果d人呀!!
無事無幹又行得鬼死咁快嘅就走去搶lift搭,孭住bb就要去扶手電梯,唔通係好合理?!

我大肚要生第2個bb時,個大B都唔肯坐bb車,行到倦,要抱,都係我抱。我當時作為一位孕婦,仲抱住個1歲幼兒,我先去等lift搭,我都成日入唔到lift架! 咪係果d唔需要嘅人塞住哂所至囉

到我細bb出咗世,我要帶2個b,先會我唔鍾意,都要帶bb車。我推架車仔,又抱一個,仍然係咁等等等起碼第2輪lift先有可能入! 唔好講樓主個bb3歲,我大bb 2歲咋我都係咁同佢講搶住搭lift果D人係 quite quite selfish喎

就算,就算我同樓主唔係推住bb車,唔係為咗推車仔而搭lift;喂! 拖個兩三歲幼兒去搭扶手電梯好危險架! 你唔知佢幾時忽發奇想,想摸下側邊,會唔會攝咗隻手仔入去。 我地帶小朋友嘅,選擇搭lift,仲係為安全架!

同埋我覺得果位daddy都起碼比可以行得好快去搶搭lift果d人有需要搭lift啦! 叫樓主又要顧住bb車果個,又要顧拖住得3歲果個,你估好輕鬆架?佢先生入到lift咪可以幫下佢睇其中一個囉... 行得好快入lift果d人,點會比呢位先生更需要入lift呢請問

樓主, 你做得啱架! 理直,就自然氣壯!教小朋友自己有道理就應該要昂然,千其唔好怕咗d自己無道理又聲大大果d人呀
THE CORDS ARE NEVER REALLY CUT.


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發表於 09-4-6 06:44 |只看該作者
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大宅

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249#
發表於 09-4-6 07:55 |只看該作者
原帖由 Littlebd 於 09-4-6 00:36 發表
I agree HK is a tiny little place, may be we should encourage those who own cars but not prams to be considerate.

I simply think a mother with 2 girls going up n down the station is not an easy task ...


Well, except the member who have been warned. I don't think other mummies did personal attack. They just use direct approach to point out the problems.

If you are a wise person, what you need to analyse is the content of the suggestion, instead of the communication style.


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250#
發表於 09-4-6 07:58 |只看該作者
原帖由 小玲太太 於 09-4-6 00:50 發表


亞女指住lift入面既其他人話佢地
"They are quite selfish."
"...yes thay are! Lift is for people who can't use the escalator."

點解其他人係selfish? 你可唔可以解一下?邊方面自私???

當時有需要人士已經用緊lift, 其他人佢地點解唔用得?
另外, lift係比需要人士優先使用, 但一般人都用得!!!
咁樣已經比左一個唔正確既infomation比左個女!!!


This is the point!


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大宅

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252#
發表於 09-4-6 09:20 |只看該作者
It sounds people here who against what yennie did is over sensitive, especially in front of the word 'selfish'. may be it shouldn't be used but the It sounds people here who against what yennie did is over sensitive, especially in front of the word 'selfish'. may be it shouldn't be used but the people who were in the lift could use the escalator instead. No matter how sick people are, as long as they can walk and use the MTR by themselves, I can't see why they can't use the escalator, they don't need to walk and run on the escalator, it's pretty similar to the use of the lift (if you don't have bulky stuff with you).
............................................................
In Yennie’s case, those who need to use the lift were in it already. I can’t see anyone in the lift is selfish, except Yennie and her daughter. Their complaint is from their dissatisfaction about Dad’s not in the lift with them. But Dad doesn’t need to use the lift. What were they complain for? Why did they think other people were selfish?


大宅

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253#
發表於 09-4-6 09:27 |只看該作者
most of the negative replies here are not direct approach, they're judgement and caused argument and achieved nothing, people who are wise enough wouldn't communicate like that as they know what polite means.
........................................................
If you read some replies with your heart, you learn something from it.

For judgement and manner, I think Yennie is the one who start to judging people and her conversation with her daughter was impolite.

Last, I was not saying that those people who posted negative replies were wise. What I meant was: If you are wise enough, you will learn something from others' negative comment, regardless their communication style.


複式洋房

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254#
發表於 09-4-6 09:40 |只看該作者
原帖由 Littlebd 於 09-4-6 08:57 發表
well, I don't think a person who stand out to point out the common problem is wrong. People here think yennie did it wrong because most of them still don't understand what the lift is for.

there is n ...


下......點為之算direct approach??
呢度都係for唔同人發表自己意見,
講反對樓主意見你話係引起agruement,
咁你打咁大段o野去話發表意見的人又係唔係會引起agruement?
仲要講到有bb車會點點點有意外,
有腳傷o個d又話搭電梯同搭lift差唔多,

而家問題係樓主個態度,佢形容四肢健全的人用lift係"霸"...
仲覺得咁樣寸到人係伸張正義咁,
我反而覺得,樓主point out o個樣o野係好o既,
但因為佢的態度,好難令人接受佢講o既o野,
試諗下咁多人出聲話樓主,我相信lift入面d人當時聽到都會有呢d感覺,更唔好話想帶個訊息俾人,因為其他人只會覺得樓主d態度好討厭,覺得自己推住bb車係大曬o既!


大宅

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255#
發表於 09-4-6 09:47 |只看該作者
yes,中哂,樓主已經在lift入面,點解重要咁同個女講,lift係人人都可以用,唔係錯丫,其他同lift的人有乜嘢問題?冇事唔比搭lift?定係有有需要人仕在lift內其他人要出lift? 佢地排隊等lift,如果你同呢班人一齊等lift而比班人一支箭咁沖入去而你入唔到lift既話,就係人地唔o岩囉.但又唔係,點解他們要被單打, 如果咁都比你話,我想講其實幾慘,帶得車仔,坐得輪椅有時真係冇咁方便,呢啲要預咗
同埋我都係帶車仔的媽咪,我通常避開人多時間用交通工具,一係5點前走一係食埋晚飯先走,如果真係要繁忙時間出入我會叫貨車,你都考慮下,比的士平好多,我由元朗出入九龍先$110-$150左右,一個月搭十幾次先千幾蚊,如果你5係日日出街,只係回程用其實好低,無需要同人逼得咁辛苦,咁激氣,去完玩已經疲倦,重要帶住兩件逼車,比我老公實鬧,話我自己攞嚟搞,我平時去完迪士尼由那兒搭的士去元朗都係$200有找(冇折),你東涌口咁近去逼車真係攞嚟搞



[/quote]但係, o係件事既後一part,
亞女指住lift入面既其他人話佢地
"They are quite selfish."
"...yes thay are! Lift is for people who can't use the escalator."

點解其他人係selfish? 你可唔可以解一下?邊方面自私 ... [/quote]

[ 本帖最後由 carmenlook 於 09-4-6 10:34 編輯 ]


子爵府

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發表於 09-4-6 09:51 |只看該作者
原帖由 酸棗仁 於 09-4-6 01:08 發表
其實, 有冇人可以整理一下, 各個負面的回覆的論點呢? 點解咁多都是負面的呢?

樓主是咪真係教緊仔女, 定害緊仔女呢?

本人就好不滿樓主的自以為是, 同埋以為自己高人一等! ...


我唔認同!!
多負面回覆???!!! 唔係
負面回覆只係得一d敢言既一群
樓主有好多朋友在bk上面
佢地明明見樓主唔啱都明撐, or 一知半解又撐
又或者入黎講其他野
又或者直情唔出聲

樓主你應該慶幸平時人緣唔錯


水晶宮

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257#
發表於 09-4-6 09:58 |只看該作者
以下QUOTE 自樓主的

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我從來都無話過我老公入唔到lift係唔公平/有問題呀
佢入唔到lift係引發我個女發問嘅原因,唔係全件事嘅主因
成件事嘅重點係我三歲嘅女識嘅道理,d白領同學生反而唔明
我唔明白點解好多人要睇到件事咁負面。
我接受人地意見,我唔怕畀人話

我個女咁講,如果真係必要用lift嘅人會心中有愧
有咩隱疾嘅人,外表睇唔到嘅人用lift會問心無慚
我同我個女咁講係無禮貌
但係呢d情況如果我或我個女都唔出聲話人嘅話,呢d咁嘅爭lift情況會日溢嚴重。我唔怕做醜人。
至於對我個女嘅用詞,我會險討,多謝大家嘅回覆!

我之前無提嘅係:
架lift係開住門等人,唔洗排隊。要排隊嘅話,我一定會排
我後無仲有個坐輪輢嘅人同一個有靠附助器行嘅人。比起白領同學生,呢d人更有需要用lift
我無話過唔係老弱傷殘嘅先至可以用lift,我只係希望大家知道,有人比我地更需要用lift時我地應該禮讓,畀呢d人優先使用。呢d係公民意識,希望大家唔好過於徧激去理解呢件事。謝謝!


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白領, 學生是否真係有需要用LIFT, 係你同我都唔知道,
你唔會知佢地會有咩隱疾, 正如我是白領, 我外表正常人一個, 我用LIFT 既話, 你都會咁睇我, 如果當面聽到你同你女對話, 我會好唔開心, 覺得被人標籤了
這不是問唔問心無愧就算

我絕對無介意有人推孖車入LIFT罷晒位之類, 人人都有需要, 我地唔知人地無BB車無推輪椅就係無這個需要


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258#
發表於 09-4-6 10:12 |只看該作者
樓主已經在lift內,其他同lift的人有乜嘢問題?冇事唔比搭lift?定係有有需要人仕在lift內其他人要出lift?同懶有乜關係?你試下諗真啲

[/quote]原帖由 happy168 於 09-4-6 01:20 發表
妳囡囡真係叻女
我都覺得宜家d人太懶喇
又冇咩公民意識................... [/quote]


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259#
發表於 09-4-6 10:24 |只看該作者
根本上就有人好 selfish!

大個小朋友3歲, 細的1歲, 點解要買一架大到嚇死人的孖b車! 又阻地方! 真係入完佢架bb車, 架lift無左一半位! 你估自己仲係外國咩? 香港有幾大地方! 自顧自己唔顧其他人 我之前見過果個人, 係d好迫環境, 推住架嚇死人的孖b車欄住成條百貨公司走廊

又唔識教囡, 如果識教就無理由教到個囡3歲都要同個細跟bb車坐!
唔見得好有教養, 唔見得好有公民意識, 係月台推住架孖b車即刻衝去lift ! lift開仲要衝埋入lift !

等兩三轉lift有幾閒呀! 又唔係好趕時間!


有媽媽講得好! 好在你個囡唔識講廣東話, 如果你個囡講廣東話! 你d對話俾其他同life人聽到, 打你都有份! 你估香港治安好好呀!


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