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各位媽咪

若你地都係已經俾左levy但係仲有幾個月先到期的話, 好似我咁, 12月6號先再交levy. 咁你可以考慮遲d 先同佢提前續約, 原因如下:

1. 而家至到12月6日既levy我已經俾左, 個死pk話一定無得回水的.
2. 續約後會當新contract一樣咁做, 即係, 係頭3個月所有既勞工假個工人係無得放的, so 好似我咁, 我可以安排到約11月尾(唔好咁敏水)先立新既合約(手續要在10月搞), 那我可以省番12月, 1月, 2月這3個月既勞工假. 這3個月既假期都好多架, 有12月25日, 1月1日, 另cny3日, 即係慳左5日假期, 叫做好過無啦.

你地聽完, 係咪叫做好過d呀???!!! 我無刻簿工人呀, 佢無啦啦續約唔駛出境都有機票錢袋啦!!! 呢d假期錢就當come佢既機票錢啦!

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hi FA8866
妳可唔可以指點下我....
THANK YOU X 100000.......

我原本11月先要比埋尾期 levy.

剛剛同 agency 傾, 問可唔可以10月提早續約, 佢建議我8月喎, 因趕係 31/7/2010 前再續約慳多24個月.

我都唔知係唔係真係要咁做 ?

原文章由 AndyRain 於 08-7-31 17:06 發表
各位媽咪

若你地都係已經俾左levy但係仲有幾個月先到期的話, 好似我咁, 12月6號先再交levy. 咁你可以考慮遲d 先同佢提前續約, 原因如下:

1. 而家至到12月6日既levy我已經俾左, 個死pk話一定無得回水的.
2. 續約後 ...

[ 本文章最後由 tramtram 於 08-7-31 17:54 編輯 ]

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原文章由 tramtram 於 08-7-31 17:40 發表
hi FA8866
妳可唔可以指點下我....
THANK YOU X 100000.......

我原本11月先要比埋尾期 levy.

剛剛同 agency 傾, 問可唔可以10月提早續約, 佢建議我8月喎, 因趕係 31/7/2010 前再續約慳多24個月.

我都唔知係 ...

其實您11月先到期比levy,唔駛趕8月呀,因8,9,10月您已有呢個levy,又無得refund.
但到2010年7月前您又再提早續約囉,一樣係可再慳24個月levy架.

不過agent都無點您既,只係叫您提早做啫.

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我個 case 係工人 08年1月剛續約, 我己支付了第1期的外傭稅, $2400, 其實7月尾要交第2期, but 我無收到佢催繳書, so 仲未交~

咁 if 我攪提前續約, 要 pay how much?? 有咩 pro & con 呢???

煩請指教, thanks thanks thanks

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FA8866,

我個工人係2007年11月嚟, 咁我交咗levy到08年11月要再交, 咁我係咪今年11月就同佢提前續約, 就唔洗交餘下的levy, 跟住到咗將近2010年7月我又再同佢提前續約, 係咪咁又可以慳多一筆, 因為我唔係好明點解有人話可以慳到47個月????? 另外我問過agence, 佢地話唔比通知金可以比期喎!! 咁係咪即係雙方協議一個月通知期都可以提前續約???

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fafa , 可以解答我問題嗎?

我個case同"利多是"差不多,
1. 我都是 2008年1月20日工人到港, visa係咪 1月20日起計?

2. 7月至今還未收到政府寄信來叫我交第2期evy, 咁我係咪要拿拿聲同工人續約呢?

3. 係咪一收到追levy信收第2期的時候, 我就必死無疑, 一定要交?

4. 如果真的要交埋第2期的levy,成本係咪大概會係咁?
續約可節省 : $9600
但要比 : - $2400 (第2期levy,指舊約要我交的話,去到12 月)
再要比 : - $2400 (每月$100的工人工資的加幅至$3580)
又要比 : - $1500 (機票來回,聽說離港與否都要支付)
又要比 : - $700 (申請續約的簽證費等等)
total 要比 = $7000, 可節省的是 $2600? 是不是?

如果, 我未收到政府的信追第2期levy, 我係咪即係可節省由 $2600 去到可節省 $5000 ($2600+$2400)?

已經唔計 agency fee了, 因為我個係bun, 佢自己攪.
而且亦無計一個月代通知金, 因為打算比一個月通知期!

點攪呀!! 可唔可以覆我? 因為第1次請工人, 唔多清楚政府d咁混亂的行政政策!!!

原文章由 多利是 於 08-7-31 18:20 發表
我個 case 係工人 08年1月剛續約, 我己支付了第1期的外傭稅, $2400, 其實7月尾要交第2期, but 我無收到佢催繳書, so 仲未交~

咁 if 我攪提前續約, 要 pay how much?? 有咩 pro & con 呢???

煩請指教, thanks th ...

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FA8866 , 可以解答我問題嗎?

我個case同"利多是"差不多,
1. 我都是 2008年1月20日工人到港, visa係咪 1月20日起計?

2. 7月至今還未收到政府寄信來叫我交第2期evy, 咁我係咪要拿拿聲同工人續約呢?

3. 係咪一收到追levy信收第2期的時候, 我就必死無疑, 一定要交?

4. 如果真的要交埋第2期的levy,成本係咪大概會係咁?
續約可節省 : $9600
但要比 : - $2400 (第2期levy,指舊約要我交的話,去到12 月)
再要比 : - $2400 (每月$100的工人工資的加幅至$3580)
又要比 : - $1500 (機票來回,聽說離港與否都要支付)
又要比 : - $700 (申請續約的簽證費等等)
total 要比 = $7000, 可節省的是 $2600? 是不是?

如果, 我未收到政府的信追第2期levy, 我係咪即係可節省由 $2600 去到可節省 $5000 ($2600+$2400)?

已經唔計 agency fee了, 因為我個係bun, 佢自己攪.
而且亦無計一個月代通知金, 因為打算比一個月通知期!

點攪呀!! 可唔可以覆我? 因為第1次請工人, 唔多清楚政府d咁混亂的行政政策!!!

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唉! 我都想自己無咁蠢....耐何!!!! 只可以話自己信錯這個政府。

原文章由 amypekkle 於 08-7-31 03:54 發表

可以咁講. 呢個故事的教訓我地, 唔好信政府. d錢都係放在自己袋安全d.

monkeyhill,
一次過交晒$9600 ~ 咁你有冇做到呢樣傻事呀?

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我想問：如果我收到入境處的信，說我新請的工人（仍在海外）的簽證已approved，我需不需要交稅？（但信！叫我交）

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my case is same as you. But the hotline is not available today.

原文章由 chungtai 於 08-7-31 19:12 發表
我想問：如果我收到入境處的信，說我新請的工人（仍在海外）的簽證已approved，我需不需要交稅？（但信！叫我交）

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原文章由 little_lam 於 08-7-31 19:28 發表
my case is same as you. But the hotline is not available today.

my agency said the date refers to the day we get the visa but I still wonder about the difference between the approval date and the pick-up date

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續約後會當新contract一樣咁做, 即係, 係頭3個月所有既勞工假個工人係無得放的,

是否真的?

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原文章由 FA8866 於 08-7-31 15:24 發表

來回機票要3-4000架??我個bun,我比佢坐CX都係1,800咋喎.如Cebu好似幾百蚊就得啦.
您個係印??:-x

Dear FA8866,
我以下諗法啱唔啱,可否俾下意見:
- 我個合約今年12 月1日到期,正常應是10月中續約,但如果我提早於8月內續約,額外支出是:
1) $180 x 4 (8 - 11月)($3,580 新人工- $3,400舊人工) = $720
2) 已交levy for 8 - 11月 = $2,400
3) 機票已預佐要俾 = 0
4) 假期已同意以錢代假 = 0
額外支出是 $3,120
$9,600 - $3,120 = $6,480 可省下

- 到下一個合約,於2010 年7月內續約,再省下$9,600

Total 共省下$16,080

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tsangwf

我同你一樣, 12月左加到期, 因為我地會用佢用多4年, or 請工人請多4年, 所以我計過應該係炒佢 or 續佢, 再請佢著數~

2008/08 炒佢, 再起新約, 2010/08 再續佢, 咁我地應該可以有47-48個月唔駛比囉,只係比3千幾蚊炒佢~點計都係抵, 唔知有無錯呢~

原文章由 tsangwf 於 08-7-31 20:42 發表

Dear FA8866,
我以下諗法啱唔啱,可否俾下意見:
- 我個合約今年12 月1日到期,正常應是10月中續約,但如果我提早於8月內續約,額外支出是:
1) $180 x 4 (8 - 11月)($3,580 新人工- $3,400舊人工) = $720
2) 已交le ...

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魔鬼在細節

Q&A 57條 - 原來提早續約只會俾一年 VISA, 即係變相要僱主合約中間要送外傭離港一次, 舊約的機票或錢就係咁用....

問 57：
如果我與現職外傭提前終止合約並立即簽訂新合約，外傭的服務期間有否中斷？

答 57：外傭的服務期間有否中斷須按個別情況而定。雖然如此，有關該項提前續約申請必須於舊合約終止日前遞交。如該申請獲批准，該外傭可獲延期逗留， 期限通常不超過一年 ，並會獲發出一個有效期與逗留期限相同的簽證。

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http://www.immd.gov.hk/chtml/faq_fdh.htm#B3 <<<各位,immg出左呢個Q&A,請大家入去睇睇,應可解答好多問題.

因我要預備遊行&返學,所以我怕唔夠時間答大家.

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原文章由 yankimama 於 08-7-31 16:18 發表
Dear FA,

Can you help me with my case & it is rather urgent.

My present maid's visa effective date was on Jan. 31, 08 (arrival of HK on Jan. 31, 08), I should pay levy on Aug. 1, 08. But can I ren ...

yankimama,

levy唔係計arrival date, 係批visa日期.
e.g.我工人的visa係2/26批出, 徵款生效日期亦係當日; 但我工人係3月9日到港架.
所以你工人係1/31到港, levy應該係更早之前已收取.
你應該要比.

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原文章由 chpyeung 於 08-7-31 21:28 發表
Q&A 57條 - 原來提早續約只會俾一年 VISA, 即係變相要僱主合約中間要送外傭離港一次, 舊約的機票或錢就係咁用....

問 57：
如果我與現職外傭提前終止合約並立即簽訂新合約，外傭的服務期 ...

This is nothing new, is just the same as existing situation. For example, if you sign up a new employee or renew with existing employee, you could choose to let her flying back to her home country to wait for the VISA, or you request the immigration for deferring her returning trip, under the latter circumstances, the immigration will issue her only 1 year VISA, and supposingly she has to fly back within this 1 year and then return to HK, however, as far as I know, this leaving and returning requirement would be legally fulfilled by taking a 1 day Macau trip. Upon her returning to HK, the immigration will instantly extend her VISA by 1 more year at the spot. Quite a lot of maids doing this if they agreed not to fly back to home country.

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呼籲大家~~~

如果levy未到期, 不必急住renew架
(Agent梗會叫你8月做啦, "單"係做咗至成單架嘛...點會放你地班小肥羊走呢~)

例 : 11月到期要繳交下一期levy, 你地可以早少少10月初去申請提早續約.

你早d renew, 就要早d比新人工.

已交levy既然都冇得refund, 梗係等用埋先再諗.

亦可以紓緩入境處的批visa量, 等真正有急需的僱主之續約申請 (例如8月到期要交levy的), 可以更快得到處理.

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Some points to remind those mommies who employ Indoneisan maid.
After reading all the info, I prefer to remain unchange of the present contract with my new maid. It is because sooner or later, I can save HK$9,600 levy if I renew contract in Jun 2010 or hire another maid after termination of my present maid(if due to her poor performance) within these 2 years.

I know a lot of mommies here are focusing on how much money can be saved if renew contract with maids earlier. Please be reminded that we are taking risk to prepaid a lot of costs (one month's salary payment in lieu of notice, payment in lieu of one way air-ticket, agency fee for renewal of contract for Indo maid) in order to gain $9,600 levy waived. If your maid's performance is poor within 2 years after renewal of contract earlier, and you want to terminate her, you will lose even more money.

I can give you an example of my case:
My new maid worked at my home starting from July 2008 and I've already paid 1st instalment of levy.
If renew the contract earlier with my new maid in Dec 2008, my cost is

1. $2,400 (levy paid before for 1st instalment)
2. $1,800 ($100 x 18 months for increase of maid's salary from Dec 2008 to Jun 2010)
3. $2,800 (agency fee for renewal contract earlier with my Indo maid)
4. $1,000 (for one way air ticket to maid's place of origin)

Total cost = $8,000
Then the money I can save = $9,600 - $8,000 = $1,600

I can save HK$1,600 if I renew the contract with my new maid earlier, assuming nothing will happen in the new 2 years' contract (Dec 08 to Nov 08). If the performance of my maid is poor after the renewal of contract and I want to terminate her, the cost of terminating her will be higher than $1,600 I saved before. As I need to pay her the single air ticket again to place of origin (HK$1,500), agency fee for employing new maid and body check (HK$2,000) etc for terminating her. In other words, I'm taking a great great risk for saving HK$1,600 only if I renew the contract with my maid earlier.

Some problems also arised from renew the contract with te present maid:
1. If I choose to remain unchange until the contract end in July 2010, my Indo maid MAY or MOST PROBABLY initiate to ask me renew the contract earlier with her as she can enjoy $100 increase of salary each month and $1,000 payment in lieu of air-ticket. Then what should I do?

2. I know most of the employment agency provides 2 years' guarantee period for the 1st contract. That means if your new maid is terminated within the 1st contract, you can get another maid without any agency fee (or only need to pay a small amount). But if I choose to renew the contract with my new maid earlier in order to enjoy the benefit of $9,600 levy waived, employment agency usually charges you more (usually HK$2,800 now for renewal of contract of Indo maid) without any guarantee period (or max. provides 1 year guarantee period). If I terminated my new maid after renewal of contract, I need to pay agency fee again in order to get another maid.

3. quota from another BK mommy (ellieku) : 不能忘記...女傭與傭主終止左合約後, 技術上會出現真空期...因為終止合約同未再批新簽試呢段時間之間, 傭工理論上用既唔係工作簽證, 即唔可以為你工作...技術上...係有真空期...似乎大家係唔係真係咁奉公守法...

Therefore, I can conclude that under the new policy clarified by Mr. Cheung yesterday, 2 kinds of employer MAY benefits from this:
1. Those who hire BUN BUN may save more money as no need to pay agency fee for renewal of contract earlier.
2. Those who have good maids at home. If they renew contract earlier with their good maids, they assume No termination will be done within the coming 2 years.

[ 本文章最後由 Clarence2003 於 08-8-1 02:50 編輯 ]