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發表於 04-6-7 12:46 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

zitacheng,

Yes. You simply need to do as they say. And keep a copy of the reply e-mail just in case.

I think they know themselves that it is a rather stupid system with lots of loopholes, and that the easy way out is to INFORM you of the way round.

BTW, I've added your post (re Imm Dept's e-mail reply) to my file. Hope you don't mind and tks.

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發表於 04-6-7 15:31 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

Bluestar,
It's my pleasure that you find the information useful.
Actually, I also further asked the Immigration Department to clarify on the length of the outside-HK-trip and this is the reply:
"To an extreme case, the helper may after departure, return at once for arrival clearance. However, as the helper may take a trip within the
one year extension, you may also let her accompany your family for a trip to mainland and activate the visa if you have such planning."
Quite surprising, do you agree?

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發表於 04-6-7 15:50 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

zitacheng,

They are just trying to say :

"I am as fed up with the system as you are, and am just trying to let you know the easiest way out. Just do something, anything which is legal, to give us a chance to issue the required working visa. Don't bother me again!"

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發表於 04-6-7 16:55 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

Bluestar

Can you please email me a copy to:
[email protected]

Thanks

Julian

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發表於 04-6-7 20:50 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

BLUESTAR :

可否PM有關文件給我

Thanks a lot

littlefour

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發表於 04-6-8 06:54 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

Hi! Bluestar,

I also want to know the procedure of renewal contract. Can you send me a copy?

My email address is : [email protected]

Many Thank.

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發表於 04-6-8 15:24 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

Bluestar & all,
My maid expiry date will be 16/7 and I call Indo Consulate this morning to book interview, 12/7 already the earliest!! Wonder if still enough time to get back documents for HK Immigration Dept? Any similar cases? Thx!
Also any update list on documents for Indo Consulate? Or Dec 2003 list still valid? Thanks a lot!

Tubbies

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發表於 04-6-8 16:00 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

Tubbies,

The Dec 2003 list still applies (No BK mummy has said that thay have had any problems with that list yet.)

The main problem nowadays is :
1. Cannot make the call for interview appointment (phone always engaged).
2. Interview date very close to Indo DH visa expiry date. (Please read below).
3. Indo Consulate staff ask employer to go to agent for processing contract renewal instead.

Karen, Tubbies and all interested BK mums,

The following message was posted by a BK mummy in mid-May.
Pls read it through, especially Tubbies, since your case is quite similar and you will need to do the same.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I've completed the Contract renewal with Indonesia Consulate on 13 May.

The new DH contract is not available unitl 28 May but my DH's visa has expired on 18 May. Finally, my maid went to Immigration to renew a temporary VISITOR visa on 18 May and expiry on 1 June so that we can wait for the DH contract. We have to go to Immigration again after collection of contract to renew the 2 years' working visa. That wasted time for going Immigration twice (my maid went there twice for collecting information of how to extend a temporary visa) and paid extra visa fee $135.

I think the work load at Indonesia Consulate is too heavy now and many coming renewal application will face the same situation like me.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

From what BK mummies have been encountering recently, it seems that :

1. You can get through the tel line to make an appointment only very in the morning, e.g. 9:35am (Their office hours start from 9:30 am).

2. Once they have made a sufficient no. of interview appointments, they seem to hang up the phone, so it is always engaged and employers cannot get through.

3. Even if you call up earlier, i.e. more than 1 month before contract expiry, even if you can put the call through successfully, they can still ask you to call later (i.e. 1 month ahead) and refuse to talk further.
[In Tubbies' case, she could make an appointment more than 1 month in advance of old contract falling due, in fact it is nearly 6 weeks ahead already, so they have made some allowance here already.]

4. Even if you make an appointment successfully, they can still refuse to let you have the interview (don't know exact reason), and advise you to go to an agent to process contract renewal.

So Tubbies, you will need to go to HK Imm Dept on 12/7, and then again on the day you collect the new DH contract back from Indo Consulate. And also need to pay HK Imm Dept twice (HK$135 x 2).

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發表於 04-6-8 17:14 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

Hi Bluestar:

My maid's contract is going to expire on 6th Nov and I want to renew her contract by myself. I've gone thru' the whole discussions of this topic today and, subject to the Indo Consulate's cooperation, would like to confirm my understanding with you:

1. since I'm the present employer of my maid, I'll have to attend the interview with my maid instead of my husband
2. if I let my maid to go home before the expiry of this present contract, the Indo Consulate will have no problem with this when I renew my maid's contract (i.e. my maid won't have any problem when returning to hk because she won't have a copy of the renewed contract with her at that time), but I'll have to let my maid to take a trip outside of HK after the renewal of her contract for the purposes of fulfilling the Immigration Department's visa requirements

Your confirmation will be greatly appreciated.

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發表於 04-6-8 18:20 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

^O^,

1. If you are the current employer (according to "old" DH contract) and also the employer for the new contract, then only you need to attend the interview together with your Indo maid.

2. If you let your maid take leave BEFORE current contract is due (i.e. before 6 Nov 2004 in your case), you will have no problem with the Indo Consulate. But :
a. Let your Indo DH bring a copy (I don't mean photocopy) of the "old" contract with her so that she can show it to HK Imm Dept when she returns to HK; and
b. Better still, also write her a letter, in your capacity as her employer, saying that you confirm that you have granted (advance) leave for your Indo DH from xx date to xx date and she is expected to return to HK to resume duty on xx date, so that she can show it to HK Imm Dept upon returning to HK as well.
Then, later on, within 1 year of expiry of old contract, i.e. sometime before 6 Nov 2005, let her take a trip outside HK, for the purposes of fulfilling the Immigration Department's visa requirements. The HK Imm Dept will stamp a working visa in her passport to allow her to work in HK until end of 2nd (new) contract.

But one reminder : check passport expiry date of your Indo maid. If she worked in HK or elsewhere BEFORE working for you, since Indo passport validity is usually for 5 years, she should renew her passport sometime in the middle of her new DH contract.

Also, pls note that I can only confirm the above as my understanding of how the system works.

I don't work for HK Imm Dept, nor for Indo Consulate, nor for any employment agency.

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發表於 04-6-8 21:31 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

唔駛緊張,佢比得個期你就一定趕得切,我個印15/1走,我14/1至同佢去hk immigration搞手續,HK immigration三個鐘搞掂!

Tubbies 寫道:
Bluestar & all,
My maid expiry date will be 16/7 and I call Indo Consulate this morning to book interview, 12/7 already the earliest!! Wonder if still enough time to get back documents for HK Immigration Dept? Any similar cases? Thx!
Also any update list on documents for Indo Consulate? Or Dec 2003 list still valid? Thanks a lot!

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發表於 04-6-9 02:16 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

Dear Bluestar,

I would like to get the procedures and the sample letter. Would you please send to me? I will PM my email address to you.

You are so kind and helpful to share your experience. I think all BK mammy will find it useful and save our + the maid's money.

Thanks in advance.!

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發表於 04-6-9 09:20 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

Morning Bluestar,

Thanks for your advice & reminder.

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發表於 04-6-9 10:38 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

^O^

I forgot to add : DON'T ask your husband to accompany you to Indo Consulate. Men are usually vvv impatient. If you ask him to go there and sit and wait and wait and wait, he will easily blow up and eeoo. Also he may well ask you to go to an agent to get it all done and not bother him, + give you a black face.

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發表於 04-6-9 11:05 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

Bluestar

Would you send a copy of the procedure of renewal contract to me.

My email address is : [email protected]

Many Thanks.

Cheers, Elaine

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Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

Hi Bluestar,

My hubby has more patience than I have. :-P

Want to ask 2 more questions:

1. if I ask my maid to go home AFTER the current contract expires, then I just simply renew the contract and let her go after the contract is renewed, and when she comes back, I don't need to let her go for another trip?

2. if my maid's passport really expires in the middle of the new contract, can she renew her passport here in HK or she needs to go back to Indo to do it? Can she renew it when she is having holiday in Indo?

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發表於 04-6-9 12:47 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

^O^,

Then you are fortunate.

1. Correct. Just renew the contract now, and let her take home leave before Nov 2005. No need for any other trip. (The alternative is between now or within 1 year later, but not never.)

2. She can renew Indo passport at Indo Consulate in CWB, HK. But it is not done at the same counter on G/F as for DH contract renewal, but upstairs on 2/F or 3/F of the same Indo Consulate. She can also renew passport in Indo. Depends on timing.
She will need to take along the old passport, a few colour photos (with same mauve background as in her current passport; tell the photo shop that she needs a photo for Indo passport and they should know what colour the background should be), and for safety's sake, a copy of the (then) current Indo DH contract. She can go by herself, they can all speak Indo there.

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發表於 04-6-9 15:26 |只看該作者

Re: 唔經agent，自己同印印續約

Thanks Bluestar.

Do we need to pay anything for the renewal of the maid's passport?

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