1) 幼稚園/幼兒園一定要係非牟利既先得, 依家 HK 既幼/兒稚園係可以分開為兩一類 : (1) non profit making 非牟利 (2) Private Independent (私立獨立), (1) 要 somewhat under 政府監管 (要俾阿公去視學) whereas (2) 係唔駛既, 鍾意點都得....
2) 學費唔可以超過 $24,000 (half day) or $48,000 (full day)...因為有d non profit making 既都收超過此數 (e.g. CCKG 基督堂, 佢地係 non-profit making, but 收$28,200 per year, so 即係又唔得)
3) 學劵明年開始有, 上限係 $13,000, 即係各合資格幼稚園可以按收生人數向政府申索此額, 但只係當中$10,000 用作學費之用, 其餘 $3,000 係用作教師培訓i之用, so take an example, 若以一間收年費係 $16,000 既幼稚園嚟計, 即係家長只需付 ($16,000-$10,000 = $6,000 per year), 若分 10 個月收, 即係每月 pay $600 only, 的確有減壓之用
4) 此計劃只惠及 3-6 歲之小朋友, so that means N1 係唔計既 (兩歲班, 因為此乃"不一定要返既學" so it's only for 家長自己 choose 了)
後記:
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因此, FYI, St Catherine, Kentiville or most of the Kowloon Tong KGs 佢地都係"私立獨立"幼稚園, 因此, 政府呢個計劃都會對佢地做成幾大既影響, cos 家長 may 因為有資助而轉選其他都唔錯但係 non profit making 既幼稚園, St Cat 同 Kentville 呢d都因為"歷史悠久", 有一定既教學賣點都或可以繼續生存, 但其他 (e.g. Cannan, York, 方方樂趣呀呢d) 就真係要諗諗係咪要減費 or 轉做 non profit making 了....
1. 保良局何壽南小學不在net45, 只有保良局陳南昌夫人, 它又如何? 是否保良局第一張永慶中學的聯繫學校?
==> 呵呵...對...多謝提醒...我成日會搞亂 Net 43 and Net 45....Net 45 較好既小學有 (1) 可立 (2) PLK 錦泰 (3) 聖公會日修 (4) 慈雲山天主教 (排名不分先後)
==> 所有同區 (中學網係黃大仙) 既 PLK 學校都會同 PLK 第一張永慶中學有聯繫關係, 即係好似d官小會同同區既官中有聯繫一樣, 但咁多間 PLK 小學中就以何壽南 banding 最高, 屬較操練個種, 有精英班, 所以學生升上 PLK No. 1 既機會亦較高 (因 PLK No. 1 係收 Band 1 生) 成績唔夠, 係聯繫小學都冇用, 何況聯繫關係只可以收 not more than 25% of 聯繫小學, so 成績唔得更唔駛諗
但請問鑽石山或附近地區有什麼值得推介/質素較好的幼稚園?
==> 我選幼稚園, 除睇程度外, 就睇環境, 幼稚園一定要有足夠既戶外空間俾小朋友鍛鍊佢地既大肌肉 (e.g. ride bicycle), 課室要可以打開窗) , area 較大, 唔好全部係 a/c (因為咁好易傳播細菌, 小朋友好易病架), so 個d 響 D building 入面一層樓咁個d我唔會考慮, 細路仔要有足夠活動空間先可以俾佢地生理有較佳既 development, so 唔係 only 睇 syllabus ga (其實幼稚園間間 syllabus 都差唔多, 係"活動教學" 就會有較大唔同喇 (e.g. 鑽石山個間靈糧堂, 呢類係上得好開心, 但真係唔多識字個停, so 除非打算直升其小學 or 去 international school la..otherwise 唔多 recommend)
==> so I will recommend (a) 聖十架 (響 WTS 差館後面), (b) 可立幼稚園 (唔係直升可立小學架) (c) 聖母幼稚園 (你個係囡, 可考慮升其小學, 其小學唔錯, 不過係私立)
我不准賓賓日間帶囡囡落街, 只因不放心, 有沒有其他 “活動”可供囡囡日間做
==> 唔.....恕我直言....我想問吓...你唔放心, 係唔放心乜...? 唔放心驚 bunbun 唔可以照顧好囡囡..?? 驚 bunbun 識到壞 bunbun then 學壞? If the answer is Yes, 我會認為你咁係有d "斬腳指避沙虫", 因為除非轉做 full time mom ge je..otherwise 點都會要讓 bunbun to take care of your daughter, 佢亦點都有機會偷懶 or 學壞, 唔俾佢帶個女出街係"唔管麻鷹管雞仔"而已, 咁亦 sacrifice 你個女 learn through environment 既機會, so I will suggest, 當囡囡識行 (about 1 yr old la, 依家細怕佢整親 this point I can understand) , 可以嘗試俾 bunbun 帶佢去d "安全"d既地方 (i.e. 冇馬路個d, e.g. 會所, 大商場, park, etc 戶外會仲好d) 一來可以透過戶外活動提升佢既抵抗力, 二來見得多生保人第日唔會太"um 春", 有助考學校, 亦唔怕小朋友太痴身...
==> 我明白好多大人既 worry, afraid that the bunbun is not trustworthy, but 點都好, 用得佢點都要信佢, risk 就點都有, 唔係放佢兩個響屋企就 less risk (hope you understand this point) so 較積極既做法係 : e.g. 俾佢出去 but with certain rules, or 有冇老人家去 gup 住佢帶細路出街 or 識d 附近d 媽咪收風 so that you know whether the bunbun behaves well when she is with your daughter alone...etc....
==> 再唔係...if 你都係唔想, then wait till 佢 around 1 yr old, can occasionally (about 1 hr per day la, not too much ar, otherwise she will become TV 精 ga la) 俾佢 watch some English/educational video...then 夜晚你要番去多d同佢傾偈, this will also 有助令佢"開氣"d....亦可令佢學識唔好太 self centre (this is a common problem for 獨生子女, a big weakness)
如計劃明年九月滿18個月時, 送她往幼兒園, 你贊成嗎?
==> Yup..for sure I support, 我兩個仔都有 let them go to nursery when they were 2 , so will the 3rd one in the future, 不過...你個邊唔好去龍蟠苑個間"張祝珊幼兒園", not good, 原因如我上述所講 : poor environment, 連大肌肉都要去龍蟠苑 d public area, 死得... :-x 要揾, 可以諗諗坐少少車去大坑東喇...that 基督教大坑東幼兒園就係以前我送大彥去架喇...唔錯架, 好靜, 環境好好, 個 centre-in-charge 都好有教育理想, 信得過....以前我住采頤個陣日日帶大彥搭 bus 6D 都係咁去喇...依家有埋媬姆車 so it's already better than me 4 years ago la....
大彥在BB的時候, 你有否類似的担心, 你又如何應付?
==> I dun have such worries, bcos 如我上面講..一來我唔會俾佢 stay at home all day just watching videos, 我會叫 bunbun bring him down to 平台 walk around, 另 Sat/Sun 去多d戶外 park ar, outdoor gum, 會有用, 仲成日同佢傾偈 (but since I was busy, sorry that I cannot do the same thing for 中彥), so 明顯地大彥既表達能力同語言發展係俾中彥好d ga....so 依家我就係要同中彥補飛喇 (he is too "um 春" and 倚賴)
剛開始敎囡囡閃咭, 她表現頗雀躍, 也喜歡我們和她一起看圖書
==> this is good, in fact I suggest reading is already more than enough at this stage (before 1), flash card is somewhat a "nice-to-have" stuff only
但我甚少播放音樂或英語CD/VCD給她聽/看, 請問坊間有那些相關資料可供參考?
==> 好多都可以諗....平平地 (幾廿皮) 得喇...not necessary DWE, maybe Bob the Builder, Miffy, Thomas the Train 都得架...
有些同事們購買整套昂貴的廸廸尼or world family
==> 我之前已討論過 this (DWE) ...你冇溫書~~ Please refer to Page 7 "DWE Vs English Time" la.... :-(
如購買坊間不同類別的CD/VCD, 這樣是否沒有系統敎導囡囡?
==> 唔好買太多唔同類既, waste $$$ 之餘又唔見得會學得好d, just a few types is fine la ... (一兩個唔同主角就夠 la, 細路好得意架, 你俾開乜佢睇, 佢睇得多就自會鍾意架喇)
a) 學習係一個 life long learning, so 絕對唔需要急於一時, 早學唔一定等於叻過人, 相對地遲學亦唔等於會蠢過人, 係睇 result ge...so 快但學唔到係冇用既, 即係好似 eating 咁, 5 mins finish one lunch box 咁又點, 可以用一年食哂一世d野, 以後成世唔駛食野都得咩...咪又係要日日 keep 住 eating to 養住個 body? So 與其貪快, 不如培養良好定時既飲食習慣仲嚟得更有用喇...明我 this 比喻冇..??
b) 父母應多花資源培養小朋友既 "attitude/values" (I talked about this before) instead of only focusing on "knowledge" and "skills" (e.g. 又中文, 又英文, 又國語, 仲要想人三歲識 3000 個字, 5 歲識計中一既數 etc etc) 原因我前面有 explain 過喇...dun want to repeat here la..
c) 一個人既"成功"唔可以單靠"學識"去判斷, 而係要有一個"balanced life" 即係識野之餘又有自己分辨是非, 求生既能力 (e.g. 好好彩我可以令大彥知"幸福唔係必然, 一切野要靠自己先可以得到"), so luckily 大彥 3 yrs 左右已會自己用 spoon 食飯, 要飲水自己識開聲, 4 yrs 已可自己沖涼, 自己換衫, 著鞋, 依家 6 歲, 老實講, 我已知同有信心佢可以自己返學了 (雖然我冇真係比佢咁做, 仲係揾個工人"傍"住佢, 係"傍", 唔係"帶", 佢會自己認路的)....see? this is 人最基本既求生功能, but sorry to see that 好多家長都忽略左呢個部份, 而去 only focus on language ar, maths ar gum...
d) Learning should never focus on "學術" 知識, e.g. English ar, Maths ar gum...要有多D 唔同類型知識先好, e.g. why 春天會 warm? 點解車碌係圓既...etc...呢d唔一定 have to be learnt from books, 多d留意生活上既細節已可學到, this is to train up their curiosity + observation skills ==> these are also some very important elements for them to use/work in the future...not only 係咪大學畢業咁簡單....
到左2010後, 要結龍, 要聯繫已經明確哂.
==> 唔駛等到個時, 學校基本上要響 2006/2007 (之前 deadline 係 2006, 後來 postpone 多一年時間) 就要表態是否結龍, 因為若唔結龍 (意思係結成津貼一條龍), 即係響 2013 個屆升 F1 個d 就唔可以以原先小學同中學關係 (e.g. 直屬 or 聯繫) 去優先取錄其小學既學生, 要所有位 open to public for 競爭, that means if that 小學 and 中學唔結龍 then 2007 打後升小一個d 到 2013 就係中一, 即係佢地唔可以優先直升其中學 la....要同街外人一齊爭, 即係讀佢小學都冇 jetso lor..
嘉諾撤小學, 好大機會同嘉諾撤聖心等中學聯繫
==> 邊個話架??....呵呵..你自己估架...你咪見大家都有 Canossa 個字就當人地係自己友先得架....同 St Paul 一樣, 間間都唔同教會架....嘉諾撒聖心書院得一間, 響南區, 本身已同佢既小學有直屬關係 (嘉諾撒聖心學校, 響中環堅道), 兩間小學 (嘉諾撒小學 at net 43 or 45 同中環個間嘉諾撒聖心小學) banding 都差好遠下喎...so 我就唔係好信佢地會結得埋, 校網又唔一樣.....
Also 你要明白, 要結龍要先符合一d規矩 (e.g. 學額要多, 校舍要可以 accommodate 先得...), so 唔係話轉就轉架...有好多 constraints...so that's why 學校寧轉 DSS 都唔結龍, 因為有條好攞命既 rule, 一旦結龍, 就要 maintain P6 students to achieve at least 85% of English passing rate 先可以保持英中仲係英中, if 唔得, 就要落車做中中架, so many 老牌英中即刻唔敢同佢直屬小學結龍住喇...怕一陣結左仲衰, 唔夠幾年變中中就大獲, so some of them may decide not to 結龍 at the end to 保住英中地位, or simply change to DSS to avoid this rule la...
我睇到保良局陳南昌夫人小學&保良局錦泰小學係保良第一中學聯繫.咁呢兩間保良局小學係咪band 1?
==> you may also read from the reply I gave to bbmama-cl above.....響 net 43 同 45 既 PLK 小學都係同 PLK No. 1 有聯繫既, 不過當中以何壽南程度最高...詳情你 read read 我樓上俾 bbmama-cl about PLK 小學既 answer la...
我去43網新蒲崗仲近過去慈雲山, 點解唔編采頣入43呢.天呀........
==> 老老實實.....長遠d諗, if 有地址, 我會寧取 net 41/34 去揀小學, 因為佢地第日中學網係 Kowloon City, 係九龍區最多英中集中之地 (亦係 banding 較高之中學集中地), 基於派中學係跟小學地址去派既, so if you stay at Net 43/45 , then 第日派中學都係 WTS only, well...成個黃大仙, WTS 本網既係得 PLK No. 1 最 top , others are just so so, 當然揀中學可以有d other net 既 school 比你揀, 但因係跨網, so 位會少, 唔易入 (要係 top students 先得, i.e. Band 1), 又或自行派位去揀別區英中, but in this case, also need to have good academic results (i.e. Band 1 again) then 小朋友都幾大壓力....
協和係咪女校? 係咪band 1?
==> No...佢係男女 ge, not Band 1, Band 2 頭 gum la (now with 3 bands only)
我反而想知, 點樣查到間學校係band 幾呢?
==> 從來阿公都冇書出話邊間係 Band 幾 school, cos this will "label" that school ga ma....not "fair" to Band 3 schools...
So...要知, 其實就要睇每年某小學中學派位結果, ie. if over 50% P6 graduates 派到 top 英中, then we may say that primary school is a Band 1 school la....
因為 banding 係以 (1) 小朋友 P5 2nd term+P6 whole year 呈分試成績 (2) 個d小朋友師兄師姐之前考既一個"基準試", 會得出個指數 then 再按全級小朋友既成績排列為 3 bands (以前係 5 bands) , then 派位就係先派 Band 1 P6 students 再派 Band 2 , etc...so Band 1 P6 students 去親梗係 top 英中 ga ma...then 咪就叫個間小學係 Band 1 school la (專出產d考到 Band 1 中學既小朋友丫嘛)
另....if 某中學能收到最多 top students from different primary schools, then 學生質素好, 自然水漲船高, 就 called Band 1 secondary school la....that's why 好多中學自己知自己事, 考 HKCEE 出d乜 grades, then 就自會收d乜人喇, 學生都係睇呢d先去考某中學既 je (因為中學收生可以 interview, 又可以 test ga la ma)
So you can't rely on "books", just keep track on that primary school 派中學情況 and you will know the banding.
Another way is of course ask/read other parents comments la...
my bb is now 6 mth, thinking about playgroup/nursery/kindergarten for her, Ii want to seek your advice on the following:
i) i live in TKO, any good playgroup?
ii) thinking about Victoria playgroup, any comment?
iii) for nursery, the nearest one for me is HKSPC nursery at Ocean Shores, but long waiting list and possibly cannot enroll? any suggestion for nursery in TKO?
iv) what u you think if send my bb to kindergarten in other district, say Kwl Tong, for K1? do u think travelling a problem? school bus?
i) i live in TKO, any good playgroup?
==> 有留意開我寫野既媽咪都可能已 feel 到我本來就唔 support BB 響呢個年紀就上 playgroup, 因為, 首先, 我地想叫佢去上係做乜先呢..?? If for learning, 我唔主張行都未識就要去"學野", 再加上我認為響呢個階段就算真係學到都係"雷聲大 ($$ 多) 雨點少 (成效低)" 之活動, 我會寧願等佢大d 再正正經經俾佢學d 有用既野好過...
==> Then if for "fun" , 咁又駛乜俾錢佢令人使佢有 "fun" 呢....playgroup 既原理我之前提過, 係d外國人想幫d細路揾個"伴"一齊玩, then 就 gather 附近住之阿媽去一齊帶 BB 玩 only, 根本唔駛要"導師"去帶...即係依家我地 e.g. 個個 Sat/Sun 帶 BB 同d 有 about same age BB 既家庭一齊玩都係一樣, 我睇唔出點解要俾 $$ 去做d我地自己都要做到既野喇...不過當然...我明白, 有媽咪會話 : "咁我冇時間又唔識丫嘛"....then 我既回應係: "冇時間 should not be an excuse, 幾忙都好, 每日 even 抽 10 mins 都可以, 唔係一定要 1 hr ar, 另"唔識"... 要做 playgroup 就係 try get together 志同道合之人去玩, 內容冇一定, 可以好 free ga...so 唔係要讀好多書既人先可以 lead 既"
==> 再加上我對香港好多搞 playgroup 既公司 (學校) 印象真係麻麻, 一來多係以"營商"為主, 二來師資真係都好參差 (雖然我話有 playgroup 係唔駛讀好多書, so 咁都唔代表可以乜都求求其架嘛, 所以好自然若我係俾得 $$$ 既我就會有 expectation, 所以唔同) 若個導師冇教育個份投入, 又係其實唔識咁去 lead, so = 同我自己去 lead 有乜分別? then why pay?
==> 因此, 基於我上述睇法, 我好難介紹到d playgroup 比你, sorry, 因為我自己都唔 buy 既野好難叫人去做 ga ma... 我會寧願將俾佢上 playgroup 既錢留起俾佢將來必要時讀好d既小學/中學 (or even 搬屋為去近佢將來番學, etc)
ii) thinking about Victoria playgroup, any comment?
==> 平心而論, Victoria 辦學都好多年, 睇佢往績, 佢都辦得唔錯, 起碼好過我見個d"學店"式學校好多, 但我睇到 2 points here...(1) Victoria 九龍區只有何文田一間, 換句話說你想佢去即係想帶 BB 過海去康怡呀, 北角呀個d Victoria 去上了...? (2) Victoria 出名價錢唔平, then 又要過海, 又要駛 $$$....so 除非佢d playgroup 真係有"特異功能", 學完真係可以變神仙咁滯, otherwise I can't see the point why I have to bring kids pretty far + spend quite a lot of $$$ for 一般成效既野喇....TKO 係新社區, 有好多小家庭, 新手媽咪, etc...絕對係一個 potential market for "education" (俾我想搵錢都一定開響 TKO), 一定唔少呢類"公司"開響呢樹既...so you may 問一問一d 辦學時間較長個d 幼稚園, 佢地 should somehow offer this too. 盡量唔好去商場呀, 又或分店唔多個d (規模有番咁上下都証明真係有心搞同個成績 is OK gum la), 因為個d 好多係私營, 即係係人都走去租個舖就話開, 政府對呢d又冇太多監管, so 質素真係 very 參差 (in terms of 環境, 衛生, 師資 etc) 你要小心d揀至好
==>For me, 我依家呢個階段我會主力鍛練仔仔d身體, 同訓練佢一d自理能力, 等佢抵抗力好d, 第日番學就唔駛成日一傷風鼻塞就 sick leave la...到時俾間幾好既學校你返, 但病左返唔到都冇用 la, right? 我依家中彥d同學 (K1), 好多都係返 2 日學請2 日病假喇...死唔死.....touchwood 講, 我大彥返學咁耐 (he is P1 now) 一日病假都未請過, 依家中彥開學 1 month 有多, 都係未 sick leave 過, (當年 N1 都係請過前前後後 not more than 1 week within that 18 months) so 唔係咁會仲學得多, 學得開心咩....小朋友返學 somehow is an obligation (責任), 唔可以返吓又唔返, otherwise 佢地投入唔到, 唔會有 learning interest, so 一個強健既體魄在我眼中絕對比返十幾廿款 playgroup (or interest classes) 嚟得更 top priority (註: 強身健體既野都係唔駛一定要去上堂學既, 我睇過好多書/TV Show, e.g. 俾d豆豆佢揀吓 etc 已可練佢既小肌肉了...)
iii) for nursery, the nearest one for me is HKSPC nursery at Ocean Shores, but long waiting list and possibly cannot enroll? any suggestion for nursery in TKO?
==> 唔好理, long queue 都好, 可以入紙時就入左排住先, 因為好多人都係咁排住隊既 je, 到時 finally 真係入去讀既就唔一定有咁多人既...另一方面, TKO 都有好多可以考慮既..eg. 救世軍個d, 保良局個d , 佢地辦學經年, so at least 有往績可以睇得到, 可以 provide some "evidence" for you to choose ar ma....You can go here to see the full list of nursery in 東九龍 la (including TKO):
iv) what u you think if send my bb to kindergarten in other district, say Kwl Tong, for K1? do u think travelling a problem? school bus?
==> Travel 一定係個 problem, 因為由 TKO 出 Kowloon Tong 都幾遠, but I know most KGs 都有校車既, 真係要坐又唔會要好好耐咁喇.....but 我見你咁問, 我反而諗起 : (1) 依家考小學又係搞珠既, so 出 Kowloon Tong 個d =/= 就可以考到好小學, then why go? (2) 下年學劵制出, 私立幼稚園係冇得受惠既, 而 most Kowloon Tong 個d KGs 都係私立, so I am not sure whether this will affect your choice too. (3) 我反而認為 KG 可以俾小朋友近家就讀 (一係你搬), 而小學就可以考慮出去讀間好d既, 因為我前面提過, TKO 入面大部份既中小學都較"普通", 較好既多數響出面, 而讀書最睇 peer influence, 幼稚園唔駛怕 peer influence 有幾大, 因為小朋友年紀仲細, 父母對佢仲係有較大 influence, 反而上得小學 (6 yrs 後), 小朋友受朋輩既影響會更多, 亦更難受父母"控制", 所以放佢入一間"靠得住"既學校先更重要, 因為個時我會緊張佢讀邊間小學多過依家緊張佢讀邊間幼稚園
Please refer to Page 7 "DWE Vs English Time" la.... :-( 
(or even 搬屋為去近佢將來番學, etc)
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