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Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

xother,

I still have coworkers and friends work during the day, and their spouse work at night, so they can save the daycare expenses.

My parents are neither rich or with skills. My sister sponsored us to move here, so my parents worked very hard at the restaurant to make the living. We borrowed government loan to finish school. All of us were grown up, so we can help out making money to support the family in some way.

However, it will be difficult for family whose children are still young.

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發表於 06-12-12 01:45 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

PoohPoohMaMa,
When I talk about immigrants, I refer to the first one who landed in Canada and I am saying after 97.

As we all know how hard to come to Canada and that why i say either skills or rich. If you have family to sponsor, then it is different issue, I will call it reunion as the govt count you at different category.

Can you tell me if anyone landed in Canada after 97 are not with skills or rich? Or you may say refugees if you want to prove I am wrong.

Yes, life is hard and we all try many way to save our expense, such as working shift or bring our parent. But that doesnt mean those people are no skills?

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發表於 06-12-12 02:31 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

xother,

we landed before 97, but that is also after the influence of HK returning to China. We were still immigrants. You should specific the professional/technical immigrant.

Even people with skills, they are not recognized by the government. My previous landlord was a policeman in HK and he was a sergent, but only with primary education. It was so hard for him to re-educated. His wife was a nurse in HK, but her english oral skill isn't good, she could only find a job in the doctor clinic. They came without a lot of money, so they need to go back to HK after a few years.

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發表於 06-12-12 03:06 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

PoohPoohMaMa,
Yes, I agree that before 97, there is lots of immigrants came to Canada due to unclear future, but you also know there is lot of them fail and return back within few years.

After that, people are more conscious about immigrate to other countries and that why I specify after 97.

I think my ex-landlord is smarter. They also have primary education as they came at their early 20s, but as I said before, the factor for you to success is not only base on qualification. Right time, right choice and effort can help you out. The husband has no specific skills, but he just work as a handy-man in hospital and got his way up after working there for long long time. Today he is the supervisor and he still speak broken english. See, there is opportunty eventhough you are not having a degree. Now they own a house and rent 2 basement out in order to support the mortgage, 2 cars and the wife is retired. Both daughters are graduated and start working. My previous nanny also smart. She run her own daycare at home in order to look after her 3 kids, now besides her own house with basement rent out, she also own 3 additional houses for rent in Vancouver! She is from mainland and how much english you think she knows.

As there are so many chinese in Canada, you dont really need to depend on looking for jobs if your english/qualification is not good. It is your skills. As I said before, Chinese like to run business and you can see there is lots of realtors, car sales, insurance agents who can survive with only chinese customers!

The skills I refer is your ability to survive and I think HK people are just too easy to give up.

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發表於 06-12-12 03:11 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

xother
yes, my husband did studied overseas, but not me...but not me, be honest, I did not thought about if i could survive or not when making the decision. i just thought - marry dog follow dog. and I won't separate with him.

If that's his decision, will just support him if that will made him more happen.

be honest, I don't really care if i could migrate to Canada or not, as all my family is back in HK. I don't have any kid - no need to worry about children's education..

it is all because my husband wants - and i don't really care.

i do agreed with what poohpoohmama said, not all skillful worker/professionally could servive here. If you could recall a news back in Summer, a double PHD immgrant jumped off the bridge as he could not find a decent job after 4 years.

guess it is all due to each individual personality...

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發表於 06-12-12 03:23 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

hi doggie,
Phd doesnt mean anything. It is the skills you have to survive. Be honest, it is not hard to get a Phd if you try hard. But is it worth to leave everything to get a qualification?

Sucide can happen to anyone, anywhere. You can also find Phd sucide in HK as they cannot find a job.
As I said, HK people just too easy to give up.

If you know Indian well, you will find many taxi drivers who around you are engineers, accountants or high skills people, but due to many reasons, they work for anything to survive and go further study in order to survive. There is no magic in life and as I said before, univerisity is the entry ticket for your career path and there is no guarantee you will sucess in life.

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發表於 06-12-12 03:59 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

xother

yes i knew PHD means nothing - so I never feel bad for not getting one. or proud to be one.

HK people too easy to give up - same as you and me, so we give up our home land and become 2nd citizen in Canada.

taxi drivers here may got professional skill, but why they turns to be taxi driver? because they need to survive. why they need to to that. they could be a professional in their home country if they wish rather than coming all the way to here.

could it be we all thought canada might be the dream land?

cope with your case, if your husband could pull down the face and become taxi driver, he could also be survive in HK. then why came here? there must be some good things that attract you..

university is the entry ticket for your career path, depends on where you are.. in Canada, if you use the mop to sweep the street. 9 out of 10 got the degree, but are they really good in their career... I doubt it....

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發表於 06-12-12 04:26 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

doggie,
Give up refer not to try.
I never look at myself as 2nd citizen. I am the same as anyone here. I didnt give up my homeland, I choose to come here as my husband is happier to live in Canada.
As I said the skill in your home country may not fix in Canada and re-educated is must. How those highly skill people re-educate themself without income. Taxi driver is temporary and once they made their way out, then they return their original shape. Yes, they are professional in Indian, but the same professional can make bigger money in overseas.

My husband is one who has his dream in career. Yes, he can be an english teacher in HK and get a decent salary, but he choose not to.

I dont agree 9 out of 10 people in Canada has degree, but that may be in Chinese only. eg, my husband workplace only few of them has degree. Most sales managers making over 60K/year has no degree, no skills and no talent but they got the job at right time. He has a chinese colleague, got MBA but resign as he cannot stand to the boss.

Yes, if you dont have degree you think degree is the obstacle for your career path, but for those who has degree, does it mean they all make their life and making more money than you?

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發表於 06-12-12 04:51 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

xother

may be my company is diff from your husband's. most of the colleague here got at least a degree. except for few junior position - (like me).
all the sales people got the MBA or double degree..
this is the only company I worked for so not sure how the other company's is.

just have lunch with the colleague, as the branch office here seems to be closing off shortly (no later than Jun 07). everyone is looking for opportunities and market availability

they are talking about an adminstrative clerk in "state Farms" 1 position open for $25K salary, 50 candidate fight for that job.

they need to be at least college graduate but degree holder prefer, at least 3 years working experience...

job market is not that good as what the newspaper said... :-(

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發表於 06-12-12 04:59 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

doggie 寫道:
job market is not that good as what the newspaper said... :-(

just forget about what is said on newspaper, it's only a number game. actually, my company just layoff a staff, and distribute the workloads among all others, to cut budget.
i have tried to look for part-time too - zellers, wal-mart, tim hortons, no frills, shopper drug mart etc. all these big brand, but no callback (about 2 months la)

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發表於 06-12-12 05:23 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

ckkwkl

during the lunch, I heard that one of the staff got a offer to transfer to "pickering" branch. I thought it is great. but the other girl said. this one got no choice. the company approach you - telling you your position will go away, but there is a position open for you - further away from you (but not 40KM further to allow you to turn it down). and now give you the choice, either you take it or go.

but per they said, since company offer you other job and just you don't take it.. then no package... guess company is trying to play this game to the remaining of us.

yes. we've been sharing all the job after the laid off .. so more work than before... :-(

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發表於 06-12-12 05:28 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

doggie
agree, this method will save them quite a lot of money. if you take the offer, it will be hours more to go/from work. it will be harsh. on the other hand, not so easy to find another job. how about "ride ox and find horse"?

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發表於 06-12-12 05:36 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

doggie,
Right time, right job. Plus you need good connection. I got the current job through connection as my company hardly adveritise. As long as you have skills and you apply for the right time, you make it!
If you are the company owner, you will criticise there is no good workers around. eg, my company try to hire new people at the begining of the year, but they never get one.

There is plenty of jobs around, we just didnt see it. My husband's even tell me playing games can also make money! He said one company hire people to test games and pay $10hr. As I said, not all company like to advertise as it is extra cost and headache, so referral is preferred.

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發表於 06-12-12 05:37 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

ckkwkl
my colleague's case is - she was one of our bilangual adminstrator. doing all the order/billing. now the new job offer is the project manager - to run the project.

just wonder how these 2 jobs be related. I knew she's been asking people what exactly is the new job needs - they said she will need to take certified course to be the PMP.. (be honest, I don't even know what is PMP :cry: )

just wonder will it be like HK. once you got the new job, and 3-6 months after, saying you are under performed and kick you out...

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發表於 06-12-12 05:45 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

doggie,
No. My friend work in Nokia in Australia also experience that. Her position is logistic and the whole department got source out. She applied other position within the company and got a project manager job about some computer software. She works hard and learn from the job. See, it is very different if you look thing as negative.

As I said all time, try hard and you can made your way up.

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發表於 06-12-12 05:53 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

Right time, right job. Plus you need good connection. --- agree with xother that applying for job here need connection. my company will advertise internal first for any open position, there are parents/children, husbands/wives, siblings etc. in my company. so, the position is filled before posting externally. i do think that i can get my job because no one fill it internally only.

There is plenty of jobs around, we just didnt see it - agree with this too. i have heard that there are companies hiring outsider for data entry as homeworker, can work either part time or full time. but i have no "door" to search for this. i do wish to work part time at home for this type.

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發表於 06-12-12 05:58 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

ckkwkl,
Yes, it is hard to get the connection and it requires some luck as well!

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發表於 06-12-12 06:05 |只看該作者

Re: 各位已回流香港or已移民加國的父母請進!

xother
yes, if the colleague is looking for new opportunities, then that's fine.. but for what we get from the conversation with her. she prefer to get a package (like the others) and then look for a job in closed to her home, as she needs to drop off and pick up the girl.

now she got no choice, but to accept whatever the company offer her.. and if she did not do anything good... (as the position is totally diff from what she's been doing) then - just "fry" without any compensation... that's what I meant

of course, look at the bright side, she save the hassel to look for the new job. working in the same company, enjoying the same benefit...

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