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男爵府

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21#
發表於 04-8-3 15:08 |只看該作者

Re: 工人返印尼發生交通意外

Dear 淑筠媽咪,

I agree with you. I also think that the maid is telling a lie especially she has already made a request to return to HK later. That's what I think without any evidence or proof. If I have any concrete evidence or proof, there is no need for us to guess or discuss here because I will fire her immediately. So don't be angry with such minor thing.


男爵府

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22#
發表於 04-8-3 15:46 |只看該作者

Re: 工人返印尼發生交通意外

If your maid had no previous record of lying I think you should at least give her a chance to explain herself. My maid owned a bike in indonesia and she used it for travelling daily, so I don't think it is rare to get in accident.

Imagine yourself in her shoes, what would you do ?


大宅

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發表於 04-8-3 16:10 |只看該作者

Re: 工人返印尼發生交通意外

Stockinette,

你最好睇清楚VicVic所寫嘅嘢先,依家係佢個工人一時話遲一個星期先返,一時又話再要再遲啲,但又唔可以畀個確實日期,咁又難怪人哋懷疑個工人講大話架喎,因為個工人只係隻手受傷,唔係隻腳,個工人係可以行得的.

仲有呀,我問過我工人架喇,印尼嘅醫藥費好貴架,因為佢哋係無醫療福利的,原因係佢哋唔使納稅囉,所以我覺得個工人唔會咁闊佬喺印尼醫病,因為就算喺香港醫要畀錢,都仲比印尼平.


複式洋房

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發表於 04-8-3 16:37 |只看該作者

Re: 工人返印尼發生交通意外

I think you should inform to your insurance agent officially in Hong Kong. Most of the insurance company has lapse time for reporting such accident.



男爵府

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25#
發表於 04-8-3 16:39 |只看該作者

Re: 工人返印尼發生交通意外

Hi ballpen,

Not trying to stir an arguement here, the decision is entirely up to VicVic. But do bare in mind if the maid did have an accident but got layoff she might take this to court.


大宅

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發表於 04-8-3 17:17 |只看該作者

Re: 工人返印尼發生交通意外

Stockinette 寫道:
Imagine yourself in her shoes, what would you do ?


Stockinette,

我都係無意同你argue架,只不過我係睇左你最尾寫呢句,才寫上我嘅觀感啫.

不過你喺第二次寫時呢一句 : 'But do bare in mind if the maid did have an accident but got layoff she might take this to court. '我就同意喎,所以我成日都講,炒一個工人都要萬事小心,功夫一定要做到足.


複式洋房

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發表於 04-8-3 18:46 |只看該作者

Re: 工人返印尼發生交通意外

ballpen 寫道:
Stockinette,

你最好睇清楚VicVic所寫嘅嘢先,依家係佢個工人一時話遲一個星期先返,一時又話再要再遲啲,但又唔可以畀個確實日期,咁又難怪人哋懷疑個工人講大話架喎,因為個工人只係隻手受傷,唔係隻腳,個工人係可以行得的.

仲有呀,我問過我工人架喇,印尼嘅醫藥費好貴架,因為佢哋係無醫療福利的,原因係佢哋唔使納稅囉,所以我覺得個工人唔會咁闊佬喺印尼醫病,因為就算喺香港醫要畀錢,都仲比印尼平.


或者佢個工人本來預算手傷好快好,點知到左一個星期後,復元進度比想像中慢,佢又怕返到黎,佢得一隻手都要做家務(冇理由返左黎唔做野卦?)所以佢先要求逗留耐d o者...

我覺得始終唔可以一口咬定佢講大話.
林月如


大宅

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28#
發表於 04-8-4 16:19 |只看該作者

Re: 工人返印尼發生交通意外

月如 寫道:
[quote]
ballpen 寫道:
Stockinette,

你最好睇清楚VicVic所寫嘅嘢先,依家係佢個工人一時話遲一個星期先返,一時又話再要再遲啲,但又唔可以畀個確實日期,咁又難怪人哋懷疑個工人講大話架喎,因為個工人只係隻手受傷,唔係隻腳,個工人係可以行得的.

仲有呀,我問過我工人架喇,印尼嘅醫藥費好貴架,因為佢哋係無醫療福利的,原因係佢哋唔使納稅囉,所以我覺得個工人唔會咁闊佬喺印尼醫病,因為就算喺香港醫要畀錢,都仲比印尼平.


或者佢個工人本來預算手傷好快好,點知到左一個星期後,復元進度比想像中慢,佢又怕返到黎,佢得一隻手都要做家務(冇理由返左黎唔做野卦?)所以佢先要求逗留耐d o者...

我覺得始終唔可以一口咬定佢講大話. [/quote]

月如,

我完全唔同意,依家無人一口咬定個工人係講大話,我哋只不過係話講大話嘅成數高啲啫,我哋由始至終都仲係懷疑緊,再講如果佢唔係怕返到來香港,會被捉去驗傷,佢使咩要話唔知幾時先可以返香港,仲有,如果傷勢復完畀預期慢,咁佢可以叫醫生再寫醫生紙格,點解佢唔咁做.

如果個工人係為左驚傷左仲要做嘢嘅,就真係無知,佢唔知有sick leave呢樣嘢嘅咩,如果佢返來香港驗傷,咁香港醫生都無咩理由唔畀sick leave佢格,佢攞住張香港醫生出嘅醫生紙,佢就可以打正旗號放sick leave囉,依家個工人只係畀張唔知係唔係醫生紙嘅印尼醫生紙,就想無了期咁請病假,我諗所有僱主都唔會接受的,我哋請1日病假都要出示香港政府承認嘅註冊西醫開嘅醫生紙啦,點解啲外傭可以例外呢?

仲有呀,依家個工人話要請病假,做僱主嘅係要照舊出糧畀佢的.

雖然做僱主嘅係要對工人好,唔好刻薄人哋,但都唔可以將個警覺性放到咁低的,如果唔係,被人搵完笨都唔知咩事.


男爵府

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29#
發表於 04-8-4 16:44 |只看該作者

Re: 工人返印尼發生交通意外

唉!大家唔好咁勞氣啦!各位係度都係傾下偈,無謂搞到唔開心

Vic Vic,
你個工人係唔係放大假?大假應該幾時放完? 不如你試探下個人,叫佢放完大假即刻番香港,你同佢講話知道佢整親隻手,但因為大假已經放完,叫佢番黎先,到時如果隻手未好番就係香港醫,仲放埋有薪病假俾佢,最多在家睇頭睇尾,睇下佢反應點,如果佢仲係o衣o衣哦哦,咁就似乎有問題,不如試下啦,好過估估下


民房

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30#
發表於 04-8-4 16:54 |只看該作者

Re: 工人返印尼發生交通意外

Sorry 呀大家,
因為我一句說話搞到唔開心,---我只想表達自已意見堵


大宅

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31#
發表於 04-8-4 17:27 |只看該作者

Re: 工人返印尼發生交通意外

拿,我要澄清,我唔係勞氣,其實你哋讀我所寫嘅嘢,應該唔好用勞氣嘅語調來讀,應該用平心靜氣嘅語調來讀,我最鍾意同人講道理的,我係從來都唔會勞氣鬧人,如果唔啱key嘅,我係唔會回應佢嘅,仲有,我唔係針對月如的,我就係知道月如係善良嘅,無咩機心,所以我先至寫咁多嘢畀佢睇.

仲有,近月來,我發覺真係有一個無聊人喺度講埋啲似是而非嘅道理,喺度評激呢度嘅媽咪,呢個人我係唔會回應佢嘅,至多畀個表情圖佢嘆,同埋叫其他唔抵得佢咁講嘢嘅人,唔好回應佢啫.


大宅

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32#
發表於 04-8-4 17:46 |只看該作者

Re: 工人返印尼發生交通意外

ballpen
講得好,這個世界上真係乜人都人,咁無聊人都有. ?-(
所以我行動最實際,見到那位無聊人既文章,咪當時運高,跳過睇唔到.


複式洋房

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33#
發表於 04-8-4 19:14 |只看該作者

Re: 工人返印尼發生交通意外

ballpen:
我明白.

而家趕住出去,晏d再傾~

我都同意大家唔好勞氣,分享/交流下意見 take care all~ :mrgreen:
林月如


複式洋房

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34#
發表於 04-8-4 23:41 |只看該作者

Re: 工人返印尼發生交通意外

ballpen 寫道:
月如,

我完全唔同意,依家無人一口咬定個工人係講大話,我哋只不過係話講大話嘅成數高啲啫,我哋由始至終都仲係懷疑緊


明白啦,可能係大家言語上有誤會,希望大家唔好放o係心!
補充一句,我之前講個工人可能咁諗,唔代表我係咁諗,我只係猜測點解佢唔想返黎..."依家個工人只係畀張唔知係唔係醫生紙嘅印尼醫生紙,就想無了期咁請病假"呢樣我都覺得唔合理,究竟agent又有冇幫手push個工人返黎呢? (對我黎講,次次工人有事,間間agent都唔會企我呢邊,反而企工人o個邊->就算係工人唔岩,點都死lur叫我唔好炒,我真係100%唔信任agent同覺得一定要俾pressure先逼到佢地做野)

希望VicVic快d搞掂個工人單野啦!
林月如
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發表於 04-8-5 01:27 |只看該作者

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