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複式洋房

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21#
發表於 04-8-9 13:06 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

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foremind 寫道:


o我, 原來妳對事唔對人.... 失敬失敬

[size=small]悔氣話, 打橫黎講?


複式洋房

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發表於 04-8-9 13:07 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

Formind, if you are not a Filippino or Indonesian maid, and trying to deny... I wish you may still have your standard point, 5, 10 or 20 years later. Please look back when you get older... Btw, how long have you been with your maid for ?
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發表於 04-8-9 13:14 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

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民房

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24#
發表於 04-8-9 13:19 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

算啦..foremind已經當我地係敵人..我地來bk係開心ga ma...無謂同一個學識咁(高)既人傾嗱...連我老公都話佢 ?-( ?-( ?-( ?-( ?-( ?-( ?-(
其實好簡單啫..foremind 就好似政府d官咁..唔會真正感受到我地既情況..只會用d(道理)講吓就算!!
不要我地開心同bb玩仲好!! : : :
cheers


複式洋房

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發表於 04-8-9 13:27 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

Formind, I do understand why you have a different opinion cos you have a different background....

Regarding your question, the answer is "Yes", there is a difference if you are a Filippino or Indoneisan maid cause you will not ultimately see the points more of the people could see here.

Still, I wish you may still have your standard point, 5, 10 or 20 years later. Please look back when you get older... time can prove... and take care.


大宅

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26#
發表於 04-8-9 14:26 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

Anyway, let's go back to the original question.
I believe 25 mins is still an acceptable timeframe for the maid to buy things and take the clothes to the laundry shop. Actually very well indeed. Everytime I ask the maid to go out to do the grocery, I usually expect her to come back in an hour time. Well, it's quite usual that maid will chi-chat with their friends when she is out. Also, she needs time to shop for the grocery and stand in line at the cashier, etc.
However, I will ask her if she has encountered any difficulties if it takes her more than an hour to do the task; and will not give her too many chances to go out again.


別墅

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27#
發表於 04-8-9 14:50 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

其實我都覺得唔駛咁勞氣, 有事慢慢講嘛! 不過其實我覺得25分鐘都不是太耐, 要去兩個地方喎, 搭lift五分鐘, 行來行去, 二十分鐘都差唔多啦, 其實你下次可以試下一齊同佢落去, 計一計要幾多時間, 咁未心裡有數囉, 如果你都係覺得佢唔順眼, 咁未炒左佢囉, 你知啦, 最緊要唔好影響心情, 呢d小事黎


大宅

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28#
發表於 04-8-9 15:01 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

我都同意wanwanfubb所講,不如你試下跟埋落街對鐘。好過估估下(傷神)
呢個係第二個工人,佢新來一個星期,要帶囡囡去幾到上興趣班,我都會跟2~3日大約番學需時幾耐。同埋落街買野大概幾耐(咁你咪知道佢有無走去蛇皇law )


大宅

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29#
發表於 04-8-9 15:25 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

foremind,
印印唔食豬肉! 買


洋房

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30#
發表於 04-8-9 16:07 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

咪係!!!!!

人地呻下工人成日整爛野唔出聲,竟然比佢話"醜陋的香港人在這討論區盡顯真性情" ---- 究竟邊個先係"種族歧視"、"尖酸刻薄"先?
http://www.baby-kingdom.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=171249&forum=16&8

開頭我都唔知佢講過咁多野,睇下睇下佢D言論,仲一度以為邊位賓賓/印印咁叻,中文程度咁高,仲識中文打字添。

喂,foremind,究竟你係咪菲藉 or 印藉 o者? 黎左幾多年呀?唔o岩代表埋你D鄉里選議員?可惜佢地大多冇投票權,sorry!


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MonkeyMum 寫道:
foremind,
印印唔食豬肉! 買
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發表於 04-8-9 17:17 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

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男爵府

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32#
發表於 04-8-9 18:28 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

各位bk 媽咪

我之前都有提及過每個人的point of view都不同,我們有共嗚的的可以去回應,不認同的就隨它吧。其實大家上來都是傾下計,搵一個有共嗚的人去傾吐一下,其實並不是教唆大家去刻薄工人。正如我所說,我相信大部份bk媽咪在請工人時都抱住你好,我好,大家好心態。我們都明白多一點遷就,多一點尊重,大家的相處都會開心些的道理。我們自己都是幫人打工,當然明白做打工仔的心態,不過上得來傾訴的媽咪大部份都是對工人有過不愉快的經驗。


我自己都在外國生活過一段很長的時間,我亦明白foremind所講的human right,但外國人一樣叫我們做chin,yellow chin,甚至yellow pig。在學校時一樣俾人歧視,只不過是近代方叫做好一些。當然我們不是要將滿心怒火發洩在工人身上,我亦很明白受欺負的感覺。我相信好多的bk媽咪都是受過教育,亦都明白待人接物的道理,只不過有時你對工人好,人家未必對你好罷了,還會給當作是傻子一樣。這種感覺真的很難受,先不講是不是工人,將心比己,我們出外給其他人當是傻子看亦覺得難受。

所以,請你明白不是每個bk媽咪都和你一樣那麼幸運可以有個好的工人。正如我所講,今日好,明年好,這張contract好,但都唔知道最後她是不是真的那麼好。是一個長途賽來的。我有很多的life cases,都是衰收尾的,當然亦有好的。


民房

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33#
發表於 04-8-10 02:17 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

其實我計過25分鐘係一個perfect time.但佢唔應該用好悔氣既態度ma.. :-x i really want to fire her ..but i can't fight for the (money) as she is not worth to get the lieu of notice!!!!! :evil: i don't want to hire another one..because no more confidence!! :cry:


大宅

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發表於 04-8-10 09:34 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

beautymama:
如果妳都覺得 "25分鐘係一個perfect time", 點解妳仲要質疑妳既工人?! ?-(
妳工作時如果係好盡責, "Do your best", 但係 Boss 卻講 d 說話質疑妳, 妳可能都會 "發誨氣" 喎


男爵府

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發表於 04-8-10 10:14 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

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民房

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36#
發表於 04-8-10 10:27 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

各bk媽媽,看完大家一番筆戰後,我很贊成 tweetybird 的說話「每個人的point of view都不同,我們有共嗚的的可以去回應,不認同的就隨它吧」。

一些不認同的人可以講自己的意見,但又何必針著一字一句去駁斥,四處去點火呢?一班bk媽也只不過想呻


大宅

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37#
發表於 04-8-10 11:49 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

贊成。其實全職媽媽又好,在職媽媽又好,都面對很多方面的壓力。同老公講,D男人又唔明,而且影響夫妻感情﹔同自己亞媽講,又怕老人家擔心﹔上黎BK都係想找個地方呻下,點知一開口就比人鬧,真係好冇癮。

言歸正傳,我的工人都有類似情況,叫佢落街買野,總係要take advantage,叫佢去超巿,佢總要自己買D野食﹔接囡囡校車,佢總要提早出去牙較。這些我都隻眼開,隻眼閉。

但有次囡囡發燒,老公又不在家,叫佢落樓下藥房買冰墊,間藥房明明10:00關門,佢9:45分出去,10:25都未返,我一方面驚囡囡有事,一方面又擔心她出意外,執好晒野想同囡囡去醫院,又驚佢返黎冇門口入。結果佢10:30施施然返黎,問佢點解咁耐,佢話多人,再質問她藥房10:00已關門,冇理由要咁耐先返,這時佢先肯講,在樓下打了長途電話。我真係嬲到唔出得聲,連醫院都冇要佢去。

所以我認為工人的紀律應該睇緊些,否則她們會得寸進尺。


民房

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38#
發表於 04-8-10 12:25 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

TWMA,
i not agreed with u wor!! 25 mins is HER perfect time only..not me!! when i go down.. i just use 15 mins can do all the things!! i think " on time" is an important thing!!! they(Maids) cannot not USE excuses!!!
if u are a boss..yr employee are challenge u and turn the black face!!! and how is yr feeling?
My maid must late everytime she go out!!!


大宅

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39#
發表於 04-8-10 13:01 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

beautymama,

建議你找一次不動聲色,好casual咁叫佢拿住d衫,然後和佢一同落街去洗,最好係有一些明確顯示出門時間的情況,例如電視剛剛報時,然後熄機出門口。去完洗衣鋪返到屋企之時,計下用左幾耐。(當然應少於25分鐘吧!)然後你可以同佢講(當鼓勵又好,寸佢又好)︰"原來你都可以做到播,咁下次我再叫你做同樣的事,我就assume 你用返咁多時間啦!"
如果佢抵賴說不止15mins之類,你大可以出門口時的報時做證,說"剛才報時訊號話6:30我地就熄機出門口,那是做好的證明吧!"


別墅

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40#
發表於 04-8-10 13:09 |只看該作者

Re: "興"到火屎!!

mlmlsam's suggestion is very good. I applied it several times to my maids when they are new here and it works. There is no need to be angry. Remember you are the boss and she only works for you and in accordance with your instructions. For some new maids, they may be illy advised by their cousins or friends before they came to HK. You are the one who tell them that they are wrong and lead them to work in accordance with what you want. So it would be difficult to train maid to fit your requirements. However, if your training is good and provide them enough coaching and guidance, they would behave at least for the first year of the contract. If you are loose on them even when they are new, they will treat you as 'lulu'!! like other bad maids in the street.

This is only my personal views and if anybody does not agree, just ignore it and there is no point to attack any of the views that I expressed.

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